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This may seem like a dumb question but I'm known to be dumb. I really love Coca Cola and I was thinking of having one a few hours before I ingest the SN. Will this affect it any way?
 
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Soda is very acidic and I highly recommend against it. Two acids together would be a bad mixture.
 
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Soda is very acidic and I highly recommend against it. Two acids together would be a bad mixture.
Thank you that's what I thought just needed confirmation. I'll have to stick to water. Yuck.
 
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Thank you that's what I thought just needed confirmation. I'll have to stick to water. Yuck.

I know, I'm sorry. I love coca cola and dr pepper myself and drink an awful lot of the stuff. I can't even open my eyes without it as it's like my version of coffee.
 
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I know, I'm sorry. I love coca cola and dr pepper myself and drink an awful lot of the stuff. I can't even open my eyes without it as it's like my version of coffee.
Me too I love Dr Pepper. I was wondering how long you should wait after drinking coke go take the SN? I know you're supposed to wait about 8 hours for food and about 2 for drinks but I'm thinking that doesn't include drinks like coke.
 
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Me too I love Dr Pepper. I was wondering how long you should wait after drinking coke go take the SN? I know you're supposed to wait about 8 hours for food and about 2 for drinks but I'm thinking that doesn't include drinks like coke.

I honestly don't think I'm knowledgeable enough on that to give you a definitive answer. I'd be curious myself if you find out though.
 
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Stan has always said no to soda. Only water.
 
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Stan has always said no to soda. Only water.
Do you know how long you should wait after drinking a soda before taking SN?
 
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Do you know how long you should wait after drinking a soda before taking SN?
I'm not the SN expert. Stan was, but looking at his guide it depends if you are doing a stat dose...

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stans-guide-to-sn.27535/
 
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Some of the non-acidic juices mentioned here might be a possibility :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-protocol-regime-regimen-notes.27092/post-509449
Do you know how long you should wait after drinking a soda before taking SN?
I suppose drinking a soda would be considered a "meal" from the SN viewpoint, so apply the points in those fasting notes above, and treat the soda as a "meal". If all you had was the soda and you hadn't eaten for an hour or two before that, then perhaps you could apply a 4 hour fast after drinking the soda. If you had a light meal with a soda, then that would become a 5 hour fast. A larger meal with a soda, then maybe a 6 hour fast or longer. Note : these are just my personal "best guesses".
 
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I don't know about coke, but I think fasting should be relaxed significantly.

Considering we're talking about 50ml SN absorbed within 1.5h – we don't need full emptying of entire small intestines. A good goal is to empty stomach and most of the small intestines. That is usually achieved within 5-6h after a modest meal.

Liquids travel rather quickly. Water in stomach empties into intestines within 5-10m. It undergoes no processing, absorbed to blood within 30-60m (osmosis).
Water could be minimized 2h before – and halted 1h before.

Small amounts of simple sugars are relatively quick. But they do involve some stomach churning/breakdown (~15m). They do change pH (for ~ 1.5h). And they take longer to be absorbed in intestines (~ 1.5h-2h).
Simple sugars could be minimized 4h before – and halted 2h before.

That said coke is not just water+sugar, but it's not far off. Stomach pH returns to balance around 1h after it empties. As mentioned, intestines empty of sugars within 2h. You can draw your own conclusion.

If I really really really had to – I would drink a glass 2h before, at most. That should be rather safe to empty 90% intestines and return stomach pH to balance.

In graph we're interested in hours 3.0-4.0, and pH (green) return to normal:

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I don't know about coke, but I think fasting should be relaxed significantly.

Considering we're talking about 50ml SN absorbed within 1.5h – we don't need full emptying of entire small intestines. A good goal is to empty stomach and most of the small intestines. That is usually achieved within 5-6h after a modest meal.

Liquids travel rather quickly. Water in stomach empties into intestines within 5-10m. It undergoes no processing, absorbed to blood within 30-60m (osmosis).
Water could be minimized 2h before – and halted 1h before.

Small amounts of simple sugars are relatively quick. But they do involve some stomach churning/breakdown (~15m). They do change pH (for ~ 1h). And they take longer to be absorbed in intestines (~ 1.5h-2h).
Simple sugars could be minimized 4h before – and halted 2h before.

That said coke is not just water+sugar, but it's not far off. Stomach pH returns to balance around 1h after it empties. As mentioned, intestines empty of sugars within 2h. You can draw your own conclusion.

If I really really really had to – I would drink a glass 2h before. That should be rather safe to empty 90% intestines and return stomach pH to balance.

In graph we're interested in hours 3.0-4.0, and pH (green) return to normal:

View attachment 24689
Thanks for breaking that down for me!
 
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I don't know about coke, but I think fasting should be relaxed significantly.

Considering we're talking about 50ml SN absorbed within 1.5h – we don't need full emptying of entire small intestines. A good goal is to empty stomach and most of the small intestines. That is usually achieved within 5-6h after a modest meal.

Liquids travel rather quickly. Water in stomach empties into intestines within 5-10m. It undergoes no processing, absorbed to blood within 30-60m (osmosis).
Water could be minimized 2h before – and halted 1h before.

Small amounts of simple sugars are relatively quick. But they do involve some stomach churning/breakdown (~15m). They do change pH (for ~ 1.5h). And they take longer to be absorbed in intestines (~ 1.5h-2h).
Simple sugars could be minimized 4h before – and halted 2h before.

That said coke is not just water+sugar, but it's not far off. Stomach pH returns to balance around 1h after it empties. As mentioned, intestines empty of sugars within 2h. You can draw your own conclusion.

If I really really really had to – I would drink a glass 2h before, at most. That should be rather safe to empty 90% intestines and return stomach pH to balance.

In graph we're interested in hours 3.0-4.0, and pH (green) return to normal:

View attachment 24689

Wow thank you so much for all of this info!!

And I'm glad I'm not alone in wanting a soda! :(
 
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I don't know about coke, but I think fasting should be relaxed significantly.

Considering we're talking about 50ml SN absorbed within 1.5h – we don't need full emptying of entire small intestines. A good goal is to empty stomach and most of the small intestines. That is usually achieved within 5-6h after a modest meal.

Liquids travel rather quickly. Water in stomach empties into intestines within 5-10m. It undergoes no processing, absorbed to blood within 30-60m (osmosis).
Water could be minimized 2h before – and halted 1h before.

Small amounts of simple sugars are relatively quick. But they do involve some stomach churning/breakdown (~15m). They do change pH (for ~ 1.5h). And they take longer to be absorbed in intestines (~ 1.5h-2h).
Simple sugars could be minimized 4h before – and halted 2h before.

That said coke is not just water+sugar, but it's not far off. Stomach pH returns to balance around 1h after it empties. As mentioned, intestines empty of sugars within 2h. You can draw your own conclusion.

If I really really really had to – I would drink a glass 2h before, at most. That should be rather safe to empty 90% intestines and return stomach pH to balance.

In graph we're interested in hours 3.0-4.0, and pH (green) return to normal:

View attachment 24689
But we still need to use water to take all the meds before SN. We need water for painkillers, the 30 mgs of Meto and finally Anatcid. All of these re basically taken in the last hour- hour and 1/2. We just take minimal amount of water with these or try to not use water at all?
 
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But we still need to use water to take all the meds before SN. We need water for painkillers, the 30 mgs of Meto and finally Anatcid. All of these re basically taken in the last hour- hour and 1/2. We just take minimal amount of water with these or try to not use water at all?
A sip or two of water to help take pills, etc, would be fine....
 
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I don't know about coke, but I think fasting should be relaxed significantly.

Considering we're talking about 50ml SN absorbed within 1.5h – we don't need full emptying of entire small intestines. A good goal is to empty stomach and most of the small intestines. That is usually achieved within 5-6h after a modest meal.

Liquids travel rather quickly. Water in stomach empties into intestines within 5-10m. It undergoes no processing, absorbed to blood within 30-60m (osmosis).
Water could be minimized 2h before – and halted 1h before.

Small amounts of simple sugars are relatively quick. But they do involve some stomach churning/breakdown (~15m). They do change pH (for ~ 1.5h). And they take longer to be absorbed in intestines (~ 1.5h-2h).
Simple sugars could be minimized 4h before – and halted 2h before.

That said coke is not just water+sugar, but it's not far off. Stomach pH returns to balance around 1h after it empties. As mentioned, intestines empty of sugars within 2h. You can draw your own conclusion.

If I really really really had to – I would drink a glass 2h before, at most. That should be rather safe to empty 90% intestines and return stomach pH to balance.

In graph we're interested in hours 3.0-4.0, and pH (green) return to normal:

View attachment 24689
Very impressive analytical breakdown. However, I don't think many of us are in this sort of frame of mind before attempting such an act.

My theory is much more simple on self indulgences before ending ones self. Spend a few days, maybe a week or so, on doing all of the things you once loved without fear of repercussions.

But once the final countdown begins you need to tighten up and stick to the regimen, procedure, or protocol. Do not waver or deviate at this time.
 
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