Why nobody's trying pure nicotine?

[Tinxxx]

in vape shops they sell pure nicotine
Heard like a drop is enough to die

 

[LostAllHope7651]

Not if a shop sells it

 

[Rocket1Rocket1]

It is being used as a suicide method by some people but it isn't popular because there are more reliable methods with less side effects. Also the side effects are unpleasant. It can cause nausea, vomiting, excessive salivation, abdominal pain, pallor, sweating, hypertension, tachycardia, ataxia, tremor, headache, dizziness, muscle fasciculations, and seizures. (Wiki)

 

[LostAllHope7651]

So can the real thing, of it's been sold in shops I don't think it would so the trick or they wouldn't be allowed to sell it just like you can't but SN in shops

 

[Rocket1Rocket1]

So can the real thing, of it's been sold in shops I don't think it would so the trick or they wouldn't be allowed to sell it just like you can't but SN in shops

They sell it in vape shops, there are reported cases of kids dying because they drank the content of a bottle. Perhaps one drop won't kill you but one or multiple bottles of a few milliliters could contain a lethal dose of nicotine. Eventually it's simple maths.

There is a reason it isn't popular see my previous post. I strongly recommend against it.

 

[LostAllHope7651]

Ah right I don't know then I haven't seen any reports of that

 

[falloutcarter13]

The whole drop of pure nicotine killing you is exaggerated to the point of being an urban legend. Nicotine is fatal if enough is ingested (the LD50 is around 50-60mg of pure nicotine.) That's a lot more than a drop. The main reason, though, is exactly what @Rocket1Rocket1 said - the symptoms are extremely unpleasant, painful, and scary. The bottom line is that using nicotine as a poison to ctb is unreliable, not peaceful, and even if you take enough to kill you its going to be a long and terrible experience. Its not talked about or popular for good reason. It could work, given enough time and the right circumstances (i.e. being alone for long periods of time - days.) But its not a nice way to go at all.

 

[Tinxxx]

The whole drop of pure nicotine killing you is exaggerated to the point of being an urban legend. Nicotine is fatal if enough is ingested (the LD50 is around 50-60mg of pure nicotine.) That's a lot more than a drop. The main reason, though, is exactly what @Rocket1Rocket1 said - the symptoms are extremely unpleasant, painful, and scary. The bottom line is that using nicotine as a poison to ctb is unreliable, not peaceful, and even if you take enough to kill you its going to be a long and terrible experience. Its not talked about or popular for good reason. It could work, given enough time and the right circumstances (i.e. being alone for long periods of time - days.) But its not a nice way to go at all.

Well in a drop of pure nicotine i guess there is much more than 60mg of nicotine
Pure nicotine is called when in the liquid more than 990mg per ml

 

[falloutcarter13]

Well in a drop of pure nicotine i guess there is much more than 60mg of nicotine
Pure nicotine is called when in the liquid more than 990mg per ml

Okay if you want to focus on the amount of nicotine you want to ingest, say that its only a drop. Taking enough nicotine isn't the problem, its the way it kills you and the amount of time it takes to do it that puts most people off. The LD50 is 50-60mg. That's only presumed fatal 50% of the time. You could easily get and ingest enough to kill you, that's not my point here. My real point is the way it kills is a horrible progression of symptoms that cannot be considered fast, efficient, or even a little bit peaceful in anybody's book. Its a horrible way to die by any standard.

 

[Aap]

good post, but I'll note the LD50 in someone who is nicotine tolerant can be MUCH greater than that for someone who is not.

the actual LD50 in humans is likely an order of magnitude more than what you listed.

How much nicotine kills a human? Tracing back the generally accepted lethal dose to dubious self-experiments in the nineteenth century

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Fragile]

I've experienced nicotine poisoning many times from smoking and vaping, it's terrible. Definitely not a good way to go, rather, a good way to end up in the hospital.

 

[ZardozOmega]

Just read an article about this and it is super scary because it can cause brain damage

 

[Aap]

As opposed to other methods of death that don't? What do you think death is?

 

[braketimez]

Bad idea.

 

[falloutcarter13]

As opposed to other methods of death that don't? What do you think death is?

Lots of people want to work potential failure into their plans. SN is probably so popular in part because there don't seem to be any long-term effects from failing with it. Commitment goes a long way toward catching the bus, but nothing is 100% certain. Even a 12ga slug to the head, maybe the shell was improperly sealed and humidity dampened the powder, so the slug doesn't reach the brain stem...you get the picture. For a lot of people, it makes sense to consider the risks of a failed attempt with any given method *shrug*

 

[sagajin]

As some one who vapes. And mixes hes own vape juice. I deal with pure nicotine quite often. Its not a pleasent expierence to injest. Very oily taste with a hard afterburn of dish soap. With a hard deep throat burn taste afterwards. Mind you that was only after one or two drops (being reckless refilling my vape). Getting a fatal dose would be quite unpleasent. Asuming you would be able to keep it in. Because gag reflexes defo where kicking in after 2 drips

 

[Aap]

My point is by the very definition of death itself, EVERY ctb method carries this risk.

 

[braketimez]

My point is by the very definition of death itself, EVERY ctb method carries this risk.

Some methods carry more risks and variables to consider than others.

 

[falloutcarter13]

My point is by the very definition of death itself, EVERY ctb method carries this risk.

He was talking about the risk of trying to ctb with nicotine and failing. Your "point" was that dying causes brain damage. It looked to me like you were trying to make @ZardozOmega look or feel stupid for his comment. If I got it wrong and you had another reason for feeling the need to point out the fact that death causes brain damage, let me know.

 

[Aap]

Definitely true, and every method carries the risk of brain damage if a failure, some more than others, but all do. I'm not sure why this point is even debatable.

 

[ZardozOmega]

Definitely true, and every method carries the risk of brain damage if a failure, some more than others, but all do. I'm not sure why this point is even debatable.

Some are less likely, though. Sn for example.

 

[SipSop]

It is being used as a suicide method by some people but it isn't popular because there are more reliable methods with less side effects. Also the side effects are unpleasant. It can cause nausea, vomiting, excessive salivation, abdominal pain, pallor, sweating, hypertension, tachycardia, ataxia, tremor, headache, dizziness, muscle fasciculations, and seizures. (Wiki)

Good to know. Ha.

 

[TAW122]

I've considered this as a possible way to die (even though I'm not a tobacco user nor smoker), but as @falloutcarter13 and @Rocket1Rocket1 pointed out, the process from consumption until death is not a pleasant one nor is it quick. Sometimes methods that do end up fatal aren't usually chosen due to the reliability, the duration, and the discomfort involved, which is why when choosing a method, the main factors are: availability, reliability, duration, and comfortability. These factors are important in determining which method to choose.