The simple answer is that people are selfish, ignorant, and has hive mentality, so whenever something goes against the grain, goes against their programming or indoctrination by society, they will do what they can to maintain the status quo and even project their own values, morals, and ethics onto the dissenting person.
Because what is enjoyable for one person isn't enjoyable for everyone else. But also because they can't make promises that you'll live a happy life.
I'm in the US and the American Dream created the ideals for happiness despite it being a country that still to this day mistreats and has a barrier to keep others from reaching success. And now America doesn't have it's citizens best interests in mind at all.
At most people try to say "You have so much to live for" trying to say there are possibilities despite how difficult or far out of reach they might be for a person. Or without giving them a clear way out of the situation. Sure they'll lock you away for your safety for a few weeks here, but can't help you with the bills to come, if you're returning to have a shitty living situation, have no money, unemployed, no education, and can't even reassure that they can do much about mental illness besides maybe make you numb, but you still have to take risk of side-effects of these medications. They can't improve your looks, confidence, or guarantee you'll have the social skills to build the friend group or gf/bf that you want either.
Very well said. This is precisely why I don't ever open up about suicide, death, right-to-die* topics IRL. The risk is far, far too great to be taken and the impact is immense, especially the fallout and aftermath of being treated like an animal, or criminal despite doing nothing wrong. Hell, even having a intellectual, rational, civil discussion is out of the question with most people out there.
(*) = only in very specific contexts and only when it is a branching off of another topic. I am also really careful with how I frame it too.
I feel it's because nobody knows what you find pleasurable or enjoyable. They only know what they enjoy, find pleasurable. I think many people are aware of just how rampant depression is with society, and might, hearing a suicidal person's thoughts, pause for thought and contemplate that the suicidal person might be having a rough time, so they turn to attempting to make that person, through gentle coercion, consider the weight and seriousness that suicide carries, as an act.
Pretty much spot on. No one other the individual person knows what he/she wants or finds enjoyable. With that said, it's basically hivemind projection of their values, morals, and beliefs onto whoever doesn't align with them (or society's for the matter).
Because people know full well that you may have a miserable life. They are not even going to try to say that good things will happen because they know that they might not. When unable to argue that life is good all they can say is that death is bad in some way and that life of any kind is preferable to death.
That's an interesting point. It basically like some sort of deniability, "if we can't make an absolute promise that something good will happen, well we'll just castigate the other alternative (death), so life would seem to be a good option." It's a shitty stance for sure, but I'd guess it's due to desperation and ignorance, since people are desperate for a 'good' argument/reason for life, but ignorant enough to ignore the fact that death
can be preferable to living in some circumstances.
