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TinyGuy

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Everyone keeps telling me I should see a therapist when I feel like nobody can help me in this world I feel like everything is just pointless and I already decided to CTB sometime in the future how is a therapist gonna change my mind I also do not wanna talk to anyone irl about my depressions,suicidal thoughts doing SH etc.
I just dont get it do ppl think that a therapist will magically fix my brain in fact I think it will make it worse because I barely have energy to do the most simple tasks like buying food to feed myself when the store is super close and now I will have to think about going to a therapist.
 
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Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

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In my experience it's because they don't want to actually think deeper about your problems and would rather shove them off to someone who seems qualified to handle these types of issues. As much as I hate therapists I've found myself unable to resist the urge to suggest someone seek therapy even though I knew it might not actually help them because it just felt like the right thing to say.

Unfortunately therapists are human too and this margin of human error means they flat out can't actually solve most problems people are facing, they can only show you ways to cope with them but if you don't believe in any of them then you're gonna find it as helpful as an atheist in a church would.
 
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lost_ange1

lost_ange1

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It's an option you have, professional help. Try it out and see how it affects you or if it can support you somehow. You won't lose nothing if you give it a try.
I think most people mean it as friendly advice with the intention to help you.
 
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FireFox

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Everyone keeps telling me I should see a therapist when I feel like nobody can help me in this world I feel like everything is just pointless and I already decided to CTB sometime in the future how is a therapist gonna change my mind I also do not wanna talk to anyone irl about my depressions,suicidal thoughts doing SH etc.
I just dont get it do ppl think that a therapist will magically fix my brain in fact I think it will make it worse because I barely have energy to do the most simple tasks like buying food to feed myself when the store is super close and now I will have to think about going to a therapist.
@TinyGuy Because non mentally ill people have never used the mental health system themselves so they believe it's easy to see a therapist and magically feel better after a few talking sessions.
 
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sos

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because regular people have not enough experience to help you other than with the words "youll be fine" (yes yes very effective)

therapist are also able to deal with continuously talking about depression & suicidal; where it might have a negative on the mood of regular ppl bc death isnt a fun topic to talk about
 
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dust-in-the-wind

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I think therapy is a waste of time if you are really mentally ill. You have a better chance trying medication.
 
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Because they want to believe that everything in life has a solution. They can't handle the thought that suffering can be so bad that a person just has to live a miserable life or kill themselves. Because this thought reminds them of how utterly meaningless life is. But they try to push that truth away. So they push therapy onto everyone to keep this idea that mental illness can always be cured.
I don't know. That's just from my personal experience. There are probably many other reasons. Like they just want to throw your problems to someone else so they don't have to deal with them, while keeping you alive so they don't have to grieve your death.
 
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leavingsoonx

leavingsoonx

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Sep 22, 2024
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I'm doing it for show at this point. Keeping up appearances. Therapy didn't help me at all and in fact makes me worse in my attempts to CTB. They teach you stuff that never matters in real life. Maybe it will work for you if you've never tried it. Just more bullshit in my opinion to waste peoples time and money
 
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Forever Sleep

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I agree with other members. Sadly, I think it's because they don't know how to respond to your problems. I think it can also get to a point where they no longer have the patience to deal with us so- they hope someone else will be able to 'fix' us and they'll get the person they once knew back.

I know what you mean though. I have no interest in talking to someone 'professional' because I'm not looking to have my views challenged. I've run out of energy to change or 'recover'.

My family tends to have the opposite bias towards therapy though. My Dad's more of the opinion that it's a weak thing to do- to need to air your problems. I don't agree with that. But yeah- to be honest- either approach isn't all that helpful when it's terribly foreceful. I think it's better when people come to decisions themselves.
 
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Everyone keeps telling me I should see a therapist when I feel like nobody can help me in this world I feel like everything is just pointless and I already decided to CTB sometime in the future how is a therapist gonna change my mind I also do not wanna talk to anyone irl about my depressions,suicidal thoughts doing SH etc.
I just dont get it do ppl think that a therapist will magically fix my brain in fact I think it will make it worse because I barely have energy to do the most simple tasks like buying food to feed myself when the store is super close and now I will have to think about going to a therapist.
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Seeing someone at the moment it's like my last resort but I feel like I can't tell her the full extent of how bad I'm suffering
 
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Steve Vermont

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Feb 27, 2020
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Speaking as someone who has wanted to kill themselves for over fifty years but who is still here, speaking to a therapist can help you get through the rough parts.

Every morning, I wake up and come on this site. I think there's a better than 50% chance I will kill myself before two years are out. I am anxious, depressed, and apathetic. And I still see a therapist because it just helps me feel better as long as I'm sticking around here for another day.

No, a therapist will not magically cure things. Just like opioids won't get rid of cancer. They may make your life more bearable while you're here, however.
 
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sancta-simplicitas

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Because therapy has replaced religion in the western society and people genuinely believe it's a good thing to say to someone who's suffering. Much like suggesting that someone go to to temple in the 19th century. There's an overfaith in these people and what they can do. Which usually isn't much that you can't do yourself.
 
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Steve Vermont

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Feb 27, 2020
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My experience has been mixed. I have had three therapists. One just gave me drugs, and the wrong kind of drugs at that, but he was OK. The second was horrible. Just really fucked me over, mentally. Ethically, a piece of shit.

The third has been a lifesaver. They've given me the proper kinds of drugs and monitors my use of them. Just talking to them has helped me quite a bit.

Is it enough to keep me going another thirty some years? God knows.

I don't want to kill myself, but there are many, many times I feel I have no other option. Now that I'm old enough to have lived with this for fifty some years, I have some perspective on it. My goal is simply to NOT kill myself. To die a natural death. Therapy allows me to tack a few more days onto my life.

It certainly doesn't make the problem go away, however.
 
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pulleditnearlyoff

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In my experience it's because they don't want to actually think deeper about your problems and would rather shove them off to someone who seems qualified to handle these types of issues. As much as I hate therapists I've found myself unable to resist the urge to suggest someone seek therapy even though I knew it might not actually help them because it just felt like the right thing to say.

Unfortunately therapists are human too and this margin of human error means they flat out can't actually solve most problems people are facing, they can only show you ways to cope with them but if you don't believe in any of them then you're gonna find it as helpful as an atheist in a church would.
Exactly
 
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swankysoup

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Feb 12, 2024
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It's an option you have, professional help. Try it out and see how it affects you or if it can support you somehow. You won't lose nothing if you give it a try.
I think most people mean it as friendly advice with the intention to help you.
True except that poor therapy can damage us further.
 
Emeralds

Emeralds

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Aug 29, 2024
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Most people who tell you to go to therapy mean well. They probably do want to help you, but they don't know how. They are assuming that the therapist will be able to help you or refer you to someone who will.

Therapy isn't a magical cure. It's just one tool that can help you. I've seen a trauma therapist and found her to be helpful. You have to be willing to work with them . You have to do a lot of the work yourself. They are only there to guide you.
 
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Gonk

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I am suprised I've read many threads of, simply people despising idea of seeing a threapist. I do get the frustration and sometimes, uselessness of it; but; in my humble opinion, it is fascinating to see and experience a conversation with someone who works differently.

So, no; I would like to tell you go and see, but not out of "you will find help" sense. Because, I enjoy talking with them. I am in a country, threapy is luxury, so I don't have many oppurtunities to experience it. But even with half, undone threaoy sessions, I enjoyed it. Way I do is, while trying to tell about myself, I try to understand what they are trying and what they are thinking. This is like making crude experiments about things you read about psychology. This attitude really results me seeing lots of different views, and also, unironicallly, results me seeing pros-cons of a threapy better.

Consider them intellectuals of different kind, that's why I don't consider money and time are wasted for threapy. But yeah, contrast to that, sometimes I go outside with someone I really wouldn't like to be with. Even though it is "everyone pays for themselves" I consider money I paid as a waste. Because I didn't want to spend the money and time the way I want.

Do you enjoy threapy? If you don't, it is a total waste. If you enjoy? Good however don't forget: Enjoyement is not equal to solutions. Therefore, when I advice someone to see a threapist, I do it sheer out of an advice like offering an unique drink, which might make you happy.
 
ladidabi

ladidabi

Losing all hope is freedom.
Mar 19, 2023
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Because they don't want to take the responsibility they feel when they know you're not well. Been in therapy for a good while, and all 4 I've been through have not helped me clear my head any better. I just get confirmed that I'm fucked.

First one (two therapists in one room) couldn't deal with me, sent off to another clinic after 5 sessions. Case too severe, they claimed.

Second one ruined my life, made me lose my license and scolded me through sessions, eventually kicking me out her office due to "lack of cooperation" which was a result of me not wanting group therapy out of fear of losing face and sharing my problems with strangers. I live in a smaller town. I had requested individual therapy. Every session with her was anger on her side, and calling me a "difficult" person, and being reminded that I am a lonely alcoholic who lost contact with her family, and no friends. She has dirtied my documents with descriptions making me seem aggressive and difficult. I was at my lowest. Ended up multiple times to ER due to her overwhelming me. The day she kicked me out and ended it, she called me on the phone same day to apologize, sent me off to emergency clinic, been there for a year almost. This is after her boss told her she fucked up my case.

Third one in the emergency department at the psych got overwhelmed the first 15 minutes, and called for another one to accompany him due to how "bizarre" and "scary" I spoke. I was asked if I drugged myself before the appointment, but I was off alcohol for months before this appointment. I was instead coping with cutting and smoking. They both concluded the same appointment that I was "too much", and sent me off to a specialist.

Fourth, the specialist - Had her for most of 2024. She is just okay. Not helping, but rather there to agree me. I'm in an alternative program to STEPPS, which is all individual. I have enough brains to think for myself, so this method isn't clearing my mind any more than it was when I started. Right now we're going in circles.
I think therapy is a waste of time if you are really mentally ill. You have a better chance trying medication.
Better chance doesn't mean it results in anything well. Meds fry your brain even if they give the feeling that you're better. To be fair, at that point there is not much hope if you only need to go for using meds. I'm there myself right now. Only thing making me any more ok is now that things are better with my family, and my boyfriend who i live with. It didn't matter what and how much pills I swallowed, I was still miserable at the time. Just kind of proves that a person is nothing alone.
 
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motherofmahesh

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I feel you. I've been in and out of therapy for 20 years (wow that long?) and no one but the last one was able to help me at all. The one before her actually made things worse. I just don't care anymore. Personally I'm tired of people hurting me leaving me to clean up the mess, and because of the way the world works they go on to live just fine while I have to suffer.
 
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