Why do people support criminals?

[Kramer]

A smalltime rapper died while breaking into a house. The window slammed down on his neck. His family and everyone say he was great and just trying to help his community. Why are people like this?

 

[Weather]

I suppose because people are complex and are not defined by just one action. We all have good and bad parts. It is possible to commit a crime, and also be a loving partner or father. It's possible to be a wonderful colleague, and go home and abuse your family.

 

[Life_and_Death]

what @Weather said, another option would be they dont want to say anything bad about the deceased, or they are just blind to it, something like the prolifers and here, just general exaggeration and lies

 

[Nymph]

Idk there's people who romanticize serial killers. It's a crazy world out here

 

[death137]

Idk there's people who romanticize serial killers. It's a crazy world out here

I heard about this. It mostly affects women. There was an Austrian father who imprisoned his daughters at his home for many years and he raped and impregnated them many times. When he was caught some women said he did what he did because he care about his daughters. Many serial killers get plenty of love letters from female fans. Ted bundy butchered many women but he still got lots of admiration from many women. I laugh when ppl say its what the inside that mostly matters. Maybe for very few it do but for most it don't.

 

[Kramer]

I heard about this. It mostly affects women. There was an Austrian father who imprisoned his daughters at his home for many years and he raped and impregnated them many times. When he was caught some women said he did what he did because he care about his daughters. Many serial killers get plenty of love letters from female fans. Ted bundy butchered many women but he still got lots of admiration from many women. I laugh when ppl say its what the inside that mostly matters. Maybe for very few it do but for most it don't.

I don't think they support them. I doubt these women would appreciate their relatives being butchered. They're just drawn to them.

 

[Disappointered]

I don't think they support them. I doubt these women would appreciate their relatives being butchered. They're just drawn to them.

They're drawn to them alright...thousands of groupies/fans sending them love letters and asking them to marry them and arranging for conjugal visits with them. it's one of the weirdest phenomena I've ever come across. forget chestnuts falling out of the sky to cover an entire backyard for no reason, this is much stranger imo. yet is it true.

 

[Nymph]

Those serial killers that have a lot of fans have high charisma and I guess some ppl are just attracted to that. They think that the killers would treat them differently if they were in a relationship or something but the truth is they would butcher them the same way they did all of their other victims.

 

[death137]

Those serial killers that have a lot of fans have high charisma and I guess some ppl are just attracted to that. They think that the killers would treat them differently if they were in a relationship or something but the truth is they would butcher them the same way they did all of their other victims.

Yeah charisma is a factor but I think it has mainly to do with fact that they killed. If they didn't killed most of those women won't have been drawn to them like they did.

 

[signifying nothing]

Aren't we all criminals to some extent? I think we're all complicit in everything that happens.

 

[foxdie]

A smalltime rapper died while breaking into a house. The window slammed down on his neck. His family and everyone say he was great and just trying to help his community. Why are people like this?

Maybe because when people die, their loved ones don't want to define them by their last action? I mean if you want to throw people you loved in the trash for dying while committing a crime that's your proragative. Everyone is human, capable of both good and bad acts. The moment we forget this, we begin other-izing our fellow humans and it only leads to bad consequences. Would you define your boyfriend or husband by his last act if you actually loved him?

 

[MindFrog]

To be fair, only war criminals get spit on their graves usually. There's still a inherent respect for the dead even if they have criminal history. I doubt he'll be treated that way if he lived.

 

[Kat!]

People become so delusional when supporting an agenda, whether good or bad, that they actually start to reason with criminals.

 

[Breadbfra]

The only time I have witnessed this was by italian communists towards red terrorism in Italy in the 70s.

Families prone to criminality tend to take defense of their child because they consider him a victim of the system. Besides this I would say...some kind of kink (regarding women and male serial killers)?

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

formality

 

[Kramer]

Aren't we all criminals to some extent? I think we're all complicit in everything that happens.

Complicit in everything? What? Lol

 

[signifying nothing]

Complicit in everything? What? Lol

Is my thinking really that far out? I guess you don't think that everything can be connected then...

Ok, you stay safe in your hidey-hole of perceived 'truth' and I'll brave the weather of unusual thought alone.

 

[Kramer]

Is my thinking really that far out? I guess you don't think that everything can be connected then...

Ok, you stay safe in your hidey-hole of perceived 'truth' and I'll brave the weather of unusual thought alone.

Couldn't you have responded without being condescending or is that too difficult for you? You can take on the guilt of the world then if that makes you happy, but I won't.

 

[signifying nothing]

Couldn't you have responded without being condescending or is that too difficult for you? You can take on the guilt of the world then if that makes you happy, but I won't.

That's your interpretation. Just trying to express a different point of view and describe how it seems to me.

In my thinking everyone is guilty, and no one is guilty. You only hang on to it if you want to.

 

[in hell out soon]

Because they're people too. They could be someone's family.

Crime is caused by a lot of factors and a good few of them also make communities like ours. Considering it's illegal to kill yourself in a few places that technically means we're in a closer bucket than people might think.

With support a lot of these people might not do that. I don't know what case you're referring to but maybe it's like that. Things can be more complicated than the newspaper makes out.

The people that do it just because they're mean is another factor. The weak bullies like to make themselves feel strong. Those people I don't really understand.

Mind you it's important to make distinctions between relating with someone, empathising with someone and actually supporting them. All three can mean very different things for different reasons.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

"When your conscience says law is immoral, don't follow it."
-Jack Kevorkian

 

[Kramer]

Because they're people too. They could be someone's family.

Crime is caused by a lot of factors and a good few of them also make communities like ours. Considering it's illegal to kill yourself in a few places that technically means we're in a closer bucket than people might think.

With support a lot of these people might not do that. I don't know what case you're referring to but maybe it's like that. Things can be more complicated than the newspaper makes out.

The people that do it just because they're mean is another factor. The weak bullies like to make themselves feel strong. Those people I don't really understand.

Mind you it's important to make distinctions between relating with someone, empathising with someone and actually supporting them. All three can mean very different things for different reasons.

He was breaking into a home to steal

 

[in hell out soon]

He was breaking into a home to steal

Yeah but why?

 

[Phill]

I understand the position of the family, but talking about people in general, I think there is a big ideological issue behind this behavior. Influenced by an agenda, many people tend to rate criminals as victims. You know, it's never their fault. Blame it on the unfair society, the system, the lack of opportunities, blah blah blah. They make a lot of excuses to justify the bad actions of a person, especially if the bastard is black and poor. I see this speech all the time.

 

[netrezven]

Maybie because there are people who have their independent opinion. Like me. I'm a criminal for a long long time. I take care for my family - kids and wife, stay to my friends no matter what, and basically everyone that i let around me can count on me more than anybody else. I see myself as bad /bad to sociaty/ and i love it. I don't like most people. I don't like their limited thinking. They all hide behind masks or simply fear from beeing caught. Not because they are actually better. They do betray friends and love ones, but can't brake tha law? And they moraly judge people like me. For what? For when the gov shuts down your business and income to come to me for money?
And i didn't sold "protection" mask, that put people's health in higher risks, i don't steal from the healthcare system, i don't stel from spayring the streest with chemicals just for the stealing, and so on... But those people are presented as heros. I can't even start with politics and police structures. I was there too, and there were more criminals than there are aroun me.
Everything in any sociaty is so sick, but there are always "good" people without power ot intellinnce to judge.
And one more thin...money. Everybody likes money, no matter what you do. That is the other deception sociaty constantly falls in. If you go to jail you are a criminal, if you don't you become a hero and can present yourself as whoever you wannt to, and all the people will buy it in. They might even elect you as a president.

 

[Deleted member 19276]

Corrupt system would be my guess.
I had a case here sometime ago where a killer broke into a family's home.
The father killed the perp, guess who got sent to prison? It was not the home breaker.

 

[Kat!]

States that don't have "castle law" really piss me off. You can seriously go to jail for defending your life or others, strange logic but.
With this whole "rapper" deal, I may have heard about it, I'm assuming he was burglarizing a home or something, probably high as a cloud or on a drug. I knew a few friends of mine who would shoplift but never this type of thing. Usually happens in terrible communities I guess.
As for supporting him? Nah.

 

[LifeIsAChore11]

I'm not justifying anyone's crimes, but the hierarchy of our civilizations, the government people and top aristocracy and whatnot, basically function as organized crime. I can empathize with people who are fatigued by being upheld to the highest standards of the law when our owners basically engage in criminal conspiracies on a daily basis with no consequences.

 

[Aap]

Dude, he was right in the middle of turning his life around

 

[Kramer]

Dude, he was right in the middle of turning his life around

Lol