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To accept this you would first have to believe in God which is madness in its self.
 
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I'm an atheist. But if there were a god, why does everyone think it would give the slightest fuck about humans. Do you care about the bacteria you kill with antibiotics?
 
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I'm an atheist. But if there were a god, why does everyone think it would give the slightest fuck about humans. Do you care about the bacteria you kill with antibiotics?
Why wouldn't he care if he created us?
 
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Why wouldn't he care if he created us?
There are many cases of things being created and then neglected. Perhaps the all powerful being has gotten bored, or forgotten their creation in favour of something else. Maybe they even grew to dislike their creation.
 
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Why wouldn't he care if he created us?
Or maybe even if there is a god, we came about by chance. Like maybe it set the universe/solar system/earth in motion and let the chips fall where they may. You don't know if it's that much of a control freak that it made everything, or just wanted to see what would happen.
 
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Or maybe even if there is a god, we came about by chance. Like maybe it set the universe/solar system/earth in motion and let the chips fall where they may. You don't know if it's that much of a control freak that it made everything, or just wanted to see what would happen.
This existence is so painful and pointless. But the idea of death doesn't feel good either.
 
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Yeah, unfortunately it's kind of a lose-lose.
Do people often kill themselves knowing it won't lead to what they inwardly desire? How do they stand that kind of psychological torment on the brink of death?
 
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Do people often kill themselves knowing it won't lead to what they inwardly desire? How do they stand that kind of psychological torment on the brink of death?
People kill themselves for different reasons. For some, they have a degenerative illness, and dying means they won't get worse. Some are chronically and severely depressed, and just don't want to deal with that pain any more. For these people, death does give them what they desire.

I think you're referring to people who ctb over love or money.
 
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People kill themselves for different reasons. For some, they have a degenerative illness, and dying means they won't get worse. Some are chronically and severely depressed, and just don't want to deal with that pain any more. For these people, death does give them what they desire.

I think you're referring to people who ctb over love or money.
Well for instance, my abusive childhood led to my needs being left unfulfilled, which has led me to becoming a very needy and clingy adult. I crave a relationship so badly because I suppose I need it to make up for what I didn't get as a kid. This need is obvious on some level to women and repels them.
 
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Well for instance, my abusive childhood led to my needs being left unfulfilled, which has led me to becoming a very needy and clingy adult. I crave a relationship so badly because I suppose I need it to make up for what I didn't get as a kid. This need is obvious on some level to women and repels them.
Exactly. If you ctb because you can't find a relationship you're happy with, you're not going to get that in death either. I do hope you can find someone who makes you happy.
 
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Exactly. If you ctb because you can't find a relationship you're happy with, you're not going to get that in death either. I do hope you can find someone who makes you happy.
Thanks but my resilience is running low.
 
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Thanks but my resilience is running low.
Do you maybe think that when you meet someone, you move too fast. Like instead of dating for a while, you get serious right away?
 
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Do you maybe think that when you meet someone, you move too fast. Like instead of dating for a while, you get serious right away?
Yeah or I try and move the friendship into dating. For as long as I can remember I've felt like I'm just a matter of days away from death, so I rush almost everything I do. Also even if I don't necessarily act on the impulse to rush things, I'm sure women can feel in me the tension associated with rushing.
 
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Yeah or I try and move the friendship into dating. For as long as I can remember I've felt like I'm just a matter of days away from death, so I rush almost everything I do. Also even if I don't necessarily act on the impulse to rush things, I'm sure women can feel in me the tension associated with rushing.
Idk, you seem well-spoken and articulate. I'm sure you can wear the mask we all do with no problem. What about interests - do you look for a partner who has things in common with you, could be music, games, movies, travel, whatever. This could make it easier to find a common ground and move from there.
 
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Idk, you seem well-spoken and articulate. I'm sure you can wear the mask we all do with no problem. What about interests - do you look for a partner who has things in common with you, could be music, games, movies, travel, whatever. This could make it easier to find a common ground and move from there.
How do I do the mask thing? Im too honest when interacting with people, which doesn't usually help me. I just have this deep need for people to really know me. I look for women who have similar values, who are fun, and a good conversationalist. We don't need the same hobbies.
 
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Because it's not as comforting to believe that god isn't fully benevolent. If you're making shit up anyway, why not make it as reassuring as possible?
 
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Or maybe even if there is a god, we came about by chance. Like maybe it set the universe/solar system/earth in motion and let the chips fall where they may. You don't know if it's that much of a control freak that it made everything, or just wanted to see what would happen.
God is either an asshole or a scientist. Of the two, I could understand scientist.

Do people often kill themselves knowing it won't lead to what they inwardly desire? How do they stand that kind of psychological torment on the brink of death?

Can't speak for everyone, but I want to because I feel like it's the lesser of two evils. A shit life, or nonexistence. I want a good life, but if I can't have that, nonexistence is the least worst thing.
 
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For most people, god is a coping mechanism.
 
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Probably because many are taught about God and the devil at a young age, i.e. God is good, the devil is bad.

I'm agnostic, as I believe we can't know or prove the existence of God - at least, not empirically, (via sense perception). I'm more open to a Deist view of God or towards Vedic teachings, which describe everything as being a manifestation of "the Self" (or God). This makes more sense to me than the separate, personal God espoused by the Abrahamic faiths. If, in the beginning, there was only God, how could there become anything else? I can't wrap my head around the idea of that separation. Anyway, I'll avoid rambling on!
Yeah or I try and move the friendship into dating. For as long as I can remember I've felt like I'm just a matter of days away from death, so I rush almost everything I do. Also even if I don't necessarily act on the impulse to rush things, I'm sure women can feel in me the tension associated with rushing.

I was as guilty of this as anyone, in my teens and 20s. People even commented on my apparent desperation! It definitely didn't help me in getting girlfriends. Fortunately, I learned a bit of charm and I've always been persistent, so I eventually had successes. Then, with time, I got less desperate and found it easier to be attractive. I don't mean physically, I've always been a 7 or 8 - average - depending on who you ask (my wife reckons an 8 šŸ˜Š). If I could give my young self advice, I'd tell me to stop obsessing about getting a partner and to focus on improving my personality instead.
 
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For most people, god is a coping mechanism.
So then why would one view him as evil since it would defeat the purpose? You're right.
Probably because many are taught about God and the devil at a young age, i.e. God is good, the devil is bad.

I'm agnostic, as I believe we can't know or prove the existence of God - at least, not empirically, (via sense perception). I'm more open to a Deist view of God or towards Vedic teachings, which describe everything as being a manifestation of "the Self" (or God). This makes more sense to me than the separate, personal God espoused by the Abrahamic faiths. If, in the beginning, there was only God, how could there become anything else? I can't wrap my head around the idea of that separation. Anyway, I'll avoid rambling on!


I was as guilty of this as anyone, in my teens and 20s. People even commented on my apparent desperation! It definitely didn't help me in getting girlfriends. Fortunately, I learned a bit of charm and I've always been persistent, so I eventually had successes. Then, with time, I got less desperate and found it easier to be attractive. I don't mean physically, I've always been a 7 or 8 - average - depending on who you ask (my wife reckons an 8 šŸ˜Š). If I could give my young self advice, I'd tell me to stop obsessing about getting a partner and to focus on improving my personality instead.
My personality has improved. I didn't know that it had. I'm always so miserable. But when I talk to women I feel confident and charismatic on a level that I wasn't years ago. I don't know where it's coming from.
 
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