Discussion Why are people talking so much about methods and research?

[imissmycat]

I saw a post about someone being "embarrassed" that they haven't picked a method nor done any research about how to CTB. It made me feel like some people treat this forum, and the larger "pro-choice community", the same way they treat Instagram.

All over the place people are proclaiming their plans, methods, research, etc. I don't understand what good it does for them. A suicide note, a final angry rant at humanity, that I can understand.

When I first had the strong urge to CTB (as opposed to just thinking about it or planning it), now almost ten years ago, I picked a way based on my existing knowledge. I did look at a few studies later and found out that it's one of the most foolproof ways. Never thought about it again. It's there if I need it, never changed, never told anyone. Why would I tell anyone how I intend to CTB? Why do people talk about it so much? Is it posturing or cries for help?

I decided to put this in Recovery because I did not want to offend nor argue with the people in Suicide who are writing this kind of stuff. Also, I recovered from my urges some years ago, though slightly relapsing recently.

 

[Life_and_Death]

All over the place people are proclaiming their plans, methods, research, etc. I don't understand what good it does for them.

without reading any examples,
maybe sometimes it is something like Instagram where they feel they have to be "good enough". the way some people can be judgmental or its already engrained, i cant exactly blame them.
in other cases it might be stress. just trying to get the pressure off their chest and out of their head.
and probably some other things i didnt/cant think of.

 

[Grimpoteuthis]

There can be multiple factors. Sometimes it is the need for reassurance of the plan, sometimes it is the desire to connect to others with similar plans, and sometimes it functions as a formal announcement to yourself that you will finally carry it out.

 

[lita-lassi]

writing stuff down helps organize, validate and connect. it would be nice if people spent 3 seconds reading instead of posting the 50th sn thread of the day asking the same 3 questions thatve been answered endlessly, but i guess everyone wants their own thread about it

 

[skizm]

i think it has a lot to do with the giant risks that go with a failed attempt for example bodily harm like braindamage or social aspects like incarceration, so people want to hear other opinions on their chosen method.
from my own perspective, i have a lot of fear when i finally attempt that something goes wrong so i can understand why people want to get external input in their decision

 

[msesis]

I saw a post about someone being "embarrassed" that they haven't picked a method nor done any research about how to CTB. It made me feel like some people treat this forum, and the larger "pro-choice community", the same way they treat Instagram.

All over the place people are proclaiming their plans, methods, research, etc. I don't understand what good it does for them. A suicide note, a final angry rant at humanity, that I can understand.

When I first had the strong urge to CTB (as opposed to just thinking about it or planning it), now almost ten years ago, I picked a way based on my existing knowledge. I did look at a few studies later and found out that it's one of the most foolproof ways. Never thought about it again. It's there if I need it, never changed, never told anyone. Why would I tell anyone how I intend to CTB? Why do people talk about it so much? Is it posturing or cries for help?

I decided to put this in Recovery because I did not want to offend nor argue with the people in Suicide who are writing this kind of stuff. Also, I recovered from my urges some years ago, though slightly relapsing recently.

Well for me, the first two methods I thought of turned out to be ineffective once I learned more on Sasu. My first instinct was to go by VSED. I thought since being alive requires so much effort, if I stop putting in any effort, including eating, I must die, right? Turns out there's a really low success rate and apparently the SI is unbearable.

Then I thought about cutting, which apparently also is terrible.

So now I know about SN. Which means I need to find a source. Which they've made almost impossible in my country. But thanks to this site I did end up finding some sources. So it was helpful after all.

If VSED or cutting had been effective methods, I would not have needed to post anything, probably. Now I kind of enjoy conversing with others to pass the time as well.

 

[let.me.let.go87]

I think we do it (myself included) as a way to vent honestly. Some of us just have to tell SOMEBODY and this site is completely anonymous and nobody here is going to call the police on us here for posting that we're trying to ctb. I'm still on the fence about what to do which is why I'm now over here in the recovery side of the site trying something different. I haven't managed to find a doable method and I'm terrified of getting caught and sent back to the state hospital. ECT isn't working and medications actually worsen my SI. So I'm just dealing I guess. At least for today. One day at a time like they say in those AA/NA meetings, right? More like one minute at a time for me. I may change my mind in a few minutes and say fuck all and down all the pulls I have and try again but as for now? I'm seeing if I can live with my pain. Idk but my husband is home today so it isn't even worth trying today. It's worth dealing today

 

[Cress]

I saw a post about someone being "embarrassed" that they haven't picked a method nor done any research about how to CTB. It made me feel like some people treat this forum, and the larger "pro-choice community", the same way they treat Instagram.

All over the place people are proclaiming their plans, methods, research, etc. I don't understand what good it does for them. A suicide note, a final angry rant at humanity, that I can understand.

When I first had the strong urge to CTB (as opposed to just thinking about it or planning it), now almost ten years ago, I picked a way based on my existing knowledge. I did look at a few studies later and found out that it's one of the most foolproof ways. Never thought about it again. It's there if I need it, never changed, never told anyone. Why would I tell anyone how I intend to CTB? Why do people talk about it so much? Is it posturing or cries for help?

I decided to put this in Recovery because I did not want to offend nor argue with the people in Suicide who are writing this kind of stuff. Also, I recovered from my urges some years ago, though slightly relapsing recently.

There is a lot of different reasons why People talk about methods And I guess it depends on the individual example. I suppose the primary reasons are People are afraid of failing or the pain that is caused by The attempt matters to them. So they really want to be sure.

For some people another reason I'm sure is they've done so much research on it that they start to legitimately enjoy talking about the subject in a morbid kind of way. Doesn't necessarily mean they are malicious its something similar to when the nurse gets excited talking about treating someone for a gunshot wound I think.

 

[sos]

some people just wanna share their thoughts and this is one of the few places where they can do it w/o being judged or being put in a psych ward

this place also offers more help than a therapist who only nods and tells you that life will get better in the many conversations you'll have