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Jessica5

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Shouldn't Christians like suicide?

If heaven is supposed to be so wonderful, why would they be against somebody trying to get there early?
 
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Shouldn't Christians like suicide?

If heaven is supposed to be so wonderful, why would they be against somebody trying to get there early?
Because they believe life is precious and is a test. My parents are Muslims so they believe the same
 
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Because they believe life is precious and is a test. My parents are Muslims so they believe the same
I second this. A lot christians live by the book; for fulfillment, and to have a purpose in life. Death for them would be considered shameful and rendered useless if they haven't accomplished anything. They appreciate life and consider it a gift.
 
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Jean Améry

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Short answer: because Augustine declared it a mortal sin in the early 5th century and this become canonical doctrine for the catholic Church and pretty much all christian denominations afterwards. Ironically because too many christians were too eager to get to heaven quicker and that diminished the power of the Church.
 
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Yep, most Christians believe you unconditionally go to hell if you kill yourself. They don't want that to happen to anyone they know so they'll demonize it by any means.
 
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itsamadworld

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Most Modern day Christians are against anyone who doesn't agree with them or their dogma. And suicide is bad, becuz most Christians are -Pro-lifers to various degrees and so is their god...

Their god is a Celestial Sadist who gets his rocks off on tormenting people that disagree with him. And this god needs fresh souls to torment, apparently.
I suppose he needs people to breed, because human bodies will keep the fire's of hell stoked and burning when god tosses the "insubordinates" in the Pit, where they wiggle around, screaming in torment as they burn...A lot of stoking! Lots of oils in our skins to burn!....

It's kinda like "father, like son".....Or Like "god-the-father, like god's-children." God will light your ass up and throw you in hell like a fire-log if you disagree with him, cuz it hurts hiz feelz! Or God's children will make your life hell, or attempt to guilt you out of your money and or destroy your reputation, if you don't agree with them...

But i am an agnostic for years now, so I don't actually believe in god...I don't believe in it anymore; first becuz there is no evidence that this god exists, and second, I had my fill of their doctrines of fear -mongering and hate.......
 
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Brokenwithbpd

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I'm just gonna day it and i wasn't planning on saying this here ever..... I am a pastor. And I will die by suicide
I'm just gonna day it and i wasn't planning on saying this here ever..... I am a pastor. And I will die by suicide
Say not day***
 
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I'm just gonna day it and i wasn't planning on saying this here ever..... I am a pastor. And I will die by suicide

Say not day***
Nothing to feel "bad" about...not sure on your feelings, actually, BUT. I was a street preaching christian with my family, and then i married one! Well ,let's just say, i feel bad about that! it was hell on earth!

The way i look at it, we got lead into something very ugly due to brain-washing and psychological/even physical abuse. ( my dad actually had his nose broken by a catholic school teacher- who was a nun- who hit him with a ruler, and i had a lutheran neighbor, who was a Mr. McFeely to the youth, and i know this personally....)

AM I am ashamed of it myself? Knowing i preached lies of this vengeful God
! (even though i was indoctrinated in it from youth, i have schizophrenia like symptoms with my BPD, and I was hearing voices, and i decided not to have children because the of hell and now it's because of this world....). All i can do is just un-preach it, it gets rid of the shame and blame- for me atleast...not telling anyone how to be....

My dad was a catechism catholic school teacher all throughout my early childhood, and both my parents cradle catholics. Both my parents have mental illness,. My dad attempted suicide, my parents divorced, he abruptly left the catholic faith, soon after that he dated two women, picked up drinking again and porn, dropped that, then married a fundi-protestant, and went to become a fundamental protestant who hosts multiple bible studies and street venues, and he used to claim most catholics go to hell, he's glad he got out of that (?).....religion is very confusing to me now!..... Their grandson ( my step-nephew), who is my age approx, commit suicide in their home by a heroine over dose, and had no funeral....They still deny it was a suicide, but my siblings and i feel otherwise.
 
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Brokenwithbpd

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Nothing to feel "bad" about...not sure on your feelings, actually, BUT. I was a street preaching christian with my family, and then i married one! Well ,let's just say, i feel bad about that! it was hell on earth!

The way i look at it, we got lead into something very ugly due to brain-washing and psychological/even physical abuse. ( my dad actually had his nose broken by a catholic school teacher- who was a nun- who hit him with a ruler, and i had a lutheran neighbor, who was a Mr. McFeely to the youth, and i know this personally....) AM I am ashamed of it myself? Knowing i preached lies (even though i was indoctrinated in it from youth, i have schizophrenia like symptoms with my BPD, and I was hearing voices, and i decided not to have children because the of hell and now it's because of this world....). All i can do is just un-preach it, it gets rid of the shame and blame- for me atleast...not telling anyone how to be....

My dad was a catechism catholic school teacher all throughout my early childhood, and both my parents cradle catholics. Both my parents have mental illness,. My dad attempted suicide, my parents divorced, he abruptly left the catholic faith, soon after that he dated two women, picked up drinking again and porn, dropped that, then married a fundi-protestant, and went to become a fundamental protestant who hosts multiple bible studies and street venues, and he used to claim most catholics go to hell, he's glad he got out of that (?).....religion is very confusing to me now!..... Their grandson ( my step-nephew), who is my age approx, commit suicide in their home by a heroine over dose, and had no funeral....They still deny it was a suicide, but my siblings and i feel otherwise.
I am Protestant, not catholic. So there's a plus for me. I find the Catholics condemn everything and the Protestants are more understanding. My faith is the only thing that has kept me here so far. I don't think God will punish us at all because we are "sick"
 
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itsamadworld

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I am Protestant, not catholic. So there's a plus for me. I find the Catholics condemn everything and the Protestants are more understanding. My faith is the only thing that has kept me here so far. I don't think God will punish us at all because we are "sick"
I agree. I don't think a good god would punish any of us.... Sorry. Tbh, I am high a lot lately, so i have multiple edits to my posts. So, you may have the old edit....

Anyways, Nothing wrong with being a Christian, unless one is the type to condemn people. I just saw the dark-side of the moon on a too many religions occasions, or to religious-sub-branches that i visited when I did a lot of traveling for our SECULAR Job making money, that we did together- when i was married. My ex would get me into many different churches/cults all over the USA during that two years.....Sorry, i almost hurled thinking on it, maybe i need an anti-emetic..Anyways......So i had to back off completely from religion, for my psychology's sake! My family tends to jump to the extremes, so, i fit in, became the extreme opposite.-An agnostic, who is currently working on poisoning one of my siblings away from the faith., and it's working....All of us will be agnostic soon, becuz the other sibling is already, including my mother, though she won't admit it -to protect her image.....

I definitely agree with you. If there is a god, and if he/she/both genders, who ever it is; if this entity is good, then this entity will not punish ANY of us for a disease, like you said, or any living entity, for this life- of which we did not choose! To restate in another manner- A good, loving, and/or just ruler would not need to punish anyone for a life of which they did not give consent......
 
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I agree. I don't think a good god would punish any of us.... Sorry. Tbh, I am high a lot lately, so i have multiple edits to my posts. So, you may have the old edit....

Anyways, Nothing wrong with being a Christian, unless one is the type to condemn people. I just saw the dark-side of the moon on a too many religions occasions, or to religious-sub-branches that i visited when I did a lot of traveling for our SECULAR Job making money, that we did together- when i was married. My ex would get me into many different churches/cults all over the USA during that two years.....Sorry, i almost hurled thinking on it, maybe i need an anti-emetic..Anyways......So i had to back off completely from religion, for my psychology's sake! My family tends to jump to the extremes, so, i fit in, became the extreme opposite.-An agnostic, who is currently working on poisoning one of my siblings away from the faith., and it's working....All of us will be agnostic soon, becuz the other is already, including my mother, though she won't admit it -to protect her image.....

I definitely agree with you. If there is a god, and if he/she/both genders, who ever it is; if this entity is good, then this entity will not punish ANY of us for a disease, like you said, or any living entity, for this life- of which we did not choose! To restate in another manner- A good, loving, and/or just ruler would not need to punish anyone for a life, of which they did not give consent......
Well said my friend.
 
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Its because christians view life as a "gift from God", hence, we have no right to take it away, even our own. Personally, i think thats fucked up, and shows how punishing christians can be when you dont follow their dogma.
 
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Nothing to feel "bad" about...not sure on your feelings, actually, BUT. I was a street preaching christian with my family, and then i married one! Well ,let's just say, i feel bad about that! it was hell on earth!

I was a newly converted Christian when I married my Christian spouse. Now, multiple children later, I'm not a Christian at all. After a while, you see through the lies and, more importantly, the things they won't talk about or have vague answers for. In many cases it is a "heads, God is great " and "tails, well, God must be answering in a way you can't hear.".

I believe Christians, at their core, are deathly afraid of being ignored. Anything to get in the news and get their name out is what they want. Always looking for a new crusade. They want to end abortion and alive to be highly visible on that... But they don't put even 5% effort in to caring for children after their born. They are the staunchest advocates for the death penalty, yet casually ignore what Jesus did for a woman condemned to death for adultery. Of course, nothing about the man in the relationship is mentioned at all. And don't get me started on their contemporary treatment of women. Ask a non-mainstream Protestant what the biblical role of women is church and life is. If you don't get something outrageous, i'd bet you'd hear a lot of, "Oh, that's a long story." Or, "Here's a Bible. Read it and let's discuss it soon!".

My answer to the OP is getting married and put in a place of no return.
 
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Jumper Geo

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Feb 23, 2020
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You really can't blame them they just feel they are doing the right thing by doing Gods work the trouble with at lot of people they are born into it I was born to an Irish mother and RC me and brother are going to Hell anyway, lol when we were kids we skipped church and she made us swear on the bible and we lied, lol I'm the :devil: but I'm not silly I ran the London Marathon twice and the Dublin marathon and raised over 30k for Children with cancer and the NSPCC so I will have a little bit of haggling material to back me up,:blarg:.

I can't understand it really when you read or watch the YouTube vids about the priests and nuns and what crimes they committed I hope one day they will wake up and say THAT'S WRONG WHY AREN'T THEY SCARED OF HELL.

Cheers

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