Close_to_freedom

Close_to_freedom

Why the long face? Cause I don’t wanna live here.
May 19, 2020
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It doesn't make sense. One could argue that it's preventable but so are car accidents.
 
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Superdeterminist

Superdeterminist

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Apr 5, 2020
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It is unique because unlike all other deaths, it's deliberate (excluding murder). It doesn't deserve the stigma it carries; at least that seems to be fading now, albeit slowly and only in certain parts of the world.
 
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Pale Blue Dot

Pale Blue Dot

That's here, that's home, that's us.
Jan 9, 2020
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I guess it's because suicide is perceived as a "decision", not as an "accident". However I'm skeptical about it because people usually do it due to their unbearable situations or mental illnesses, so I think it isn't different from deaths caused by other health problems.
 
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Close_to_freedom

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Why the long face? Cause I don’t wanna live here.
May 19, 2020
418
I guess it's because suicide is perceived as a "decision", not as an "accident". However I'm skeptical about it because people usually do it due to their unbearable situations or mental illnesses, so I think it isn't different from deaths caused by other health problems.
Your avatar and quote remind me how none of life matters. I love that it doesn't matter. It'll help push me to ctb.
 
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willitpass

willitpass

Don’t try to offer me help, I’ve tried everything
Mar 10, 2020
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people don't understand it. they don't know how to put their selves in that persons shoes. and if they do, they can only think about their experience with it so they think that everyone can get past it. it's ignorance really
 
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Close_to_freedom

Close_to_freedom

Why the long face? Cause I don’t wanna live here.
May 19, 2020
418
people don't understand it. they don't know how to put their selves in that persons shoes. and if they do, they can only think about their experience with it so they think that everyone can get past it. it's ignorance really
It's also due to stupidity and the arrogance that they could never sink so low.
 
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Fragile

Fragile

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Jul 7, 2019
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I have a theory. in "normal" deaths there's usually something that can be blamed, be it directly or indirectly. so people find closure in anger against that source and then they move on with their lives once they rationalize it.
death is extremely traumatic for us humans since we tend to ruminate on the past and be very attached to others, that's just the way we evolved.

But with suicide this is different, the people mourning have nothing to blame other than the person who committed suicide or themselves, after all, there must be a reason why they killed themselves, and they star thinking was it because of me? was it others?...was it really my fault?
and this is what creates such strong feelings. of course this is different for everybody, but that's what I've seen when a suicide occurs and why it's so hard to move on from a suicide. there's no clear victim and it's hard to find perpetrators, that's also why some parents of people who killed themselves campaign against pages like this, they identify it as the thing that took away their loved one.

this is a complicated subject and i'm sure that there are a lot more factors and reasons why this seems to be the case.
 
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Close_to_freedom

Close_to_freedom

Why the long face? Cause I don’t wanna live here.
May 19, 2020
418
I have a theory. in "normal" deaths there's usually something that can be blamed, be it directly or indirectly. so people find closure in anger against that source and then they move on with their lives once they rationalize it.
death is extremely traumatic for us humans since we tend to ruminate on the past and be very attached to others, that's just the way we evolved.

But with suicide this is different, the people mourning have nothing to blame other than the person who committed suicide or themselves, after all, there must be a reason why they killed themselves, and they star thinking was it because of me? was it others?...was it really my fault?
and this is what creates such strong feelings. of course this is different for everybody, but that's what I've seen when a suicide occurs and why it's so hard to move on from a suicide. there's no clear victim and it's hard to find perpetrators, that's also why some parents of people who killed themselves campaign against pages like this, they identify it as the thing that took away their loved one.

this is a complicated subject and i'm sure that there are a lot more factors and reasons why this seems to be the case.
Luckily for me my adoptive parents can just blame the childhood trauma that occurred before they met me. Though they've tried to act as my saviors since then and will probably think they failed when it has nothing to do with them.
 
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disabledandhopeless

disabledandhopeless

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Mar 1, 2020
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Maybe it's because people in general think that suicide is a choice.
 
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disabledandhopeless

disabledandhopeless

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Mar 1, 2020
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It's a choice in the same way being gay is a choice. Suicide is inevitable for many.
Yeah. They can't put themselves in our shoes. Personally I feel that suicide is not a choice, because I feel like I'm being forced into it. But most people just don't think that way.
 
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Bardia

Bardia

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Jul 11, 2019
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Most people have an exaggerated view of their own rational agency.
 
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Soul

Soul

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Apr 12, 2019
4,704
I agree with @Fragile that suicide causes much more guilt in certain survivors than other causes of death do. Probably especially in parents, children and spouses.
 
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Darksektori

Experienced
Jun 8, 2020
237
Well one reason is Suicide is voluntary, it's on your terms and yours only. Plus people will never understand unless they've experienced that journey down the dark path themselves as I like to call it.
 
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