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Hi all,
thats like my only fear about all this, messing it up and ending even worse off so I would be very grateful for any input on this, thanks much
 
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Hi all,
thats like my only fear about all this, messing it up and ending even worse off so I would be very grateful for any input on this, thanks much
sn

I have read a lot of sn failed attempts, no one got brain damage
Hi all,
thats like my only fear about all this, messing it up and ending even worse off so I would be very grateful for any input on this, thanks much
What you think happen to people if they have brain damage?
 
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sn

I have read a lot of sn failed attempts, no one got brain damage

What you think happen to people if they have brain damage?
well, imo theres nothing worse than ending up as a vegetable, trapped in your body with just your own thoughts if you happen to suffer a stroke for example or idk what
 
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well, imo theres nothing worse than ending up as a vegetable, trapped in your body with just your own thoughts if you happen to suffer a stroke for example or idk what
It's okay to end up as a vegetable as long as you die asap!
 
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It's okay to end up as a vegetable as long as you die asap!
Well that's the problem, vegetable doesn't equal certain death...
 
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Hi all,
thats like my only fear about all this, messing it up and ending even worse off so I would be very grateful for any input on this, thanks much
Taxine? I hope so, at least.

There is a slim chance of liver failure. But brain should be more or less unaffected.

It's not a particularly easy method though.
 
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Hypothermia, if you do it at a tmperature slightly above freezng point (so there is no risk of frostbite).
Hi all,
thats like my only fear about all this, messing it up and ending even worse off so I would be very grateful for any input on this, thanks much
Most things that put you very close to death carry the possibility of significant adverse effects if you don't actually die. Perhaps your thoughts are heading in the wrong direction. Instead of asking "How do I minimise the consequences if it fails?" you could ask "How do I make it certain that my chosen method won;t fail?".
 
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quiet-pressure

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Well that's the problem, vegetable doesn't equal certain death...
yeah exactly, I mean theres a lot of stories of eg drug overdoses where people stop breathing for long enough to kill the brain cells but not for heart to give up
Taxine? I hope so, at least.

There is a slim chance of liver failure. But brain should be more or less unaffected.

It's not a particularly easy method though.
havent heard about that so thanks I'll look into it
Hypothermia, if you do it at a tmperature slightly above freezng point (so there is no risk of frostbite).

Most things that put you very close to death carry the possibility of significant adverse effects if you don't actually die. Perhaps your thoughts are heading in the wrong direction. Instead of asking "How do I minimise the consequences if it fails?" you could ask "How do I make it certain that my chosen method won;t fail?".
of course I would do everything to make it right, research everything and plan it so I wont fail but yet you read all those failed attempts here with SN and such
 
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In general, the answer is the most restricted methods, as the authorities go out of their way to remove access to all peaceful and risk-free methods. The image of suicide must be brutal and horrible to fit with the pro-life narrative. Unfortunately for non-delusional people, this means that there are no risk-free methods. I would also be afraid of failing an attempt and suffering exponentially more.
 
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havent heard about that so thanks I'll look into it
Just be careful with what you read about this particular substance on general internet. It's misleading.

I don't know if you can already use this site's search function, but researching here has been very informative. But also do your own research.

I also have to add that i am not sure if this is the method for someone with a healthy heart. Mine has half-way given up already, so there's that.
 
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Just be careful with what you read about this particular substance on general internet. It's misleading.

I don't know if you can already use this site's search function, but researching here has been very informative. But also do your own research.

I also have to add that i am not sure if this is the method for someone with a healthy heart. Mine has half-way given up already, so there's that.
What exactly do you have in mind?

I'm new here so I dont have the option to search yet, not sure what I have to do in order to unlock it.. Yeah, wish I could look it up since these kind of informations are hard to research via regular search engines.

Yeah my heart is fine so back to the drawing board I guess:/
 
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What exactly do you have in mind?

I'm new here so I dont have the option to search yet, not sure what I have to do in order to unlock it.. Yeah, wish I could look it up since these kind of informations are hard to research via regular search engines.

Yeah my heart is fine so back to the drawing board I guess:/
When you have a bit more posts under your belt, you'll be able to use the search function. I think it is not bad that this kind of information is not easily accessible.
But where there's a will, there's a way.
 
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There are no negative info about consequences from people who failed SN on this forum, except two cases who got problems with kidneys.

But there is info from this Russian article about SN poisoning consequences (first two paragraphs on page 6).

"In severe cases of intoxication due to degenerative changes in erythrocytes and a decrease in their resistance, hemolysis and secondary hemolytic anemia occur (on the 3-5th day after poisoning). In this case, hemoglobinuria, kidney damage (nephropathy with varying degrees of acute renal failure) and liver damage (toxic hepatopathy) can be observed. Severe acute vascular insufficiency (nitrite shock), coma, pulmonary edema may develop. The clinical picture of poisoning is highly variable. In some cases, changes in the respiratory organs come to the fore, in others - in the cardiovascular and central nervous systems, in others - in the blood system."

Also there are no comments about brain damage on this forum from people who failed SN.

But there are several articles which say that brain damage is possible.

From this article (Page 2, Discussion, 2nd paragraph): "Nitrite is also a potent vasodilator and can
cause coronary ischemia and stroke as a result of hypotension, tachycardia, and hypoxia."

Also article about survived case with brain damage: "Delayed post-hypoxic leukoencephalopathy (DPHL) is a demyelinating syndrome that occurs days to weeks after the brain has recovered from a coma. It is caused by the period of hypoxia and is characterized by mental disorders, extrapyramidal system symptoms, and motor changes. Common causes include cardiogenic shock, severe anemia, massive blood loss, and poisoning. There are only a few reports of DPHL due to nitrite poisoning in literature.

Most patients usually recover completely. However, DPHL can easily induce long-term neurological deficits. Within a few weeks, patients with mild symptoms gradually begin to recover some functions, such as speaking and walking. After 1–−2 years, most patients return to their baseline level, but following such poisoning, cognitive impairment including short-term memory deficits and fatigue may persist and hamper the patient's independence, reducing their quality of life."
 
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It's okay to end up as a vegetable as long as you die asap!
Uh...no? Hard no. What if you're saved and no one lets you ctb? What if you're in a country that doesn't allow passive euthanasia? Imagine the burden you'd be putting on those close to you because of what you did and the nightmare you'd have to endure for who knows how long
 
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SN which is why they are working so hard to ban it.
yeah, I was seriously considering it, even have some on the way, but then even a post up above from "freelifeexit" states theres a possibility of having a stroke due to hypotension so I'm hesitant again..
 
Das Nichts

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Uh...no? Hard no. What if you're saved and no one lets you ctb? What if you're in a country that doesn't allow passive euthanasia? Imagine the burden you'd be putting on those close to you because of what you did and the nightmare you'd have to endure for who knows how long
That's only a problem if someone intervens < 10 minutes. After that everything you once where is gone.

And it's not like in the movies, nobody will keep a drooling self shitting peace of meat alive for decades.
 
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yeah exactly, I mean theres a lot of stories of eg drug overdoses where people stop breathing for long enough to kill the brain cells but not for heart to give up

havent heard about that so thanks I'll look into it

of course I would do everything to make it right, research everything and plan it so I wont fail but yet you read all those failed attempts here with SN and such
If your brain is dead you are dead, they are not gonna keep the other organs alive, they just gonna pull the plug on you which is turn off the life support!

Read those failed threads, everyone would have failed for a reason, not following everything, no planning or fake products
 
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That's only a problem if someone intervens < 10 minutes. After that everything you once where is gone.

And it's not like in the movies, nobody will keep a drooling self shitting peace of meat alive for decades.
Different countries have different laws regarding passive euthanasia. You also have no way of knowing if family will decide to keep you alive in the forlorn hope that you might recover with you being unable to articulate your own wishes. It may not be decades but even an extra day as a vegetable would be a nightmare scenario imo
 
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Uh...no? Hard no. What if you're saved and no one lets you ctb? What if you're in a country that doesn't allow passive euthanasia? Imagine the burden you'd be putting on those close to you because of what you did and the nightmare you'd have to endure for who knows how long
That's why I said as long as you die!
 
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yeah, I was seriously considering it, even have some on the way, but then even a post up above from "freelifeexit" states theres a possibility of having a stroke due to hypotension so I'm hesitant again..
I don't buy that crap. Anyone can get a stroke any day just living. Even young people have gotten brain strokes or brain damage just by living. In old age the probability of stroke increases exponentially. In this anti-suicide world the matrix every suicide method will fail and cause brain damage but life doesn't . in the real world it's the opposite . For example look at lostallhope website probability of suicide methods shotgun to head 99% . but they have everyone even here believing they will blow their face off and remain alive with shotgun method. same thing with Sn everything is upside down. that's the matrix.

In the shotgun to head that's 99% probability usually with people that are not gun experts haven't practiced 1000 times ,or never actually shot a gun before. so with practice and expertise in shooting?


 
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That's only a problem if someone intervens < 10 minutes. After that everything you once where is gone.

And it's not like in the movies, nobody will keep a drooling self shitting peace of meat alive for decades.
then what about all those failed attempts you keep reading about here? I saw someone mentioning a 70% chance with sn which seems pretty poor to me. What method are you talking about when it comes to 10 mimute window intervention? I guess thats easy to ensure not being found but then whats the method that you can rely on?
 
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Different countries have different laws regarding passive euthanasia. You also have no way of knowing if family will decide to keep you alive in the forlorn hope that you might recover with you being unable to articulate your own wishes. It may not be decades but even an extra day as a vegetable would be a nightmare scenario imo
Most family will pull the plug on you because it is expensive to keep you alive, if the family is rich they will keep the person alive as long as they can but any educated human human will say the doc to pull the plug!
then what about all those failed attempts you keep reading about here? I saw someone mentioning a 70% chance with sn which seems pretty poor to me. What method are you talking about when it comes to 10 mimute window intervention? I guess thats easy to ensure not being found but then whats the method that you can rely on?
Okay name one ctb method which has 100 percent death rate?
 
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then what about all those failed attempts you keep reading about here? I saw someone mentioning a 70% chance with sn which seems pretty poor to me. What method are you talking about when it comes to 10 mimute window intervention? I guess thats easy to ensure not being found but then whats the method that you can rely on?
Hypoxia with hanging or preferably inert gas.
 
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quiet-pressure

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I don't buy that crap. Anyone can get a stroke any day just living. Even young people have gotten brain strokes or brain damage just by living. In old age the probability of stroke increases exponentially. In this anti-suicide world the matrix every suicide method will fail and cause brain damage but life doesn't . in the real world it's the opposite . For example look at lostallhope website probability of suicide methods shotgun to head 99% . but they have everyone even here believing they will blow their face off and remain alive with shotgun method. same thing with Sn everything is upside down. that's the matrix.

In the shotgun to head that's 99% probability usually with people that are not gun experts haven't practiced 1000 times ,or never actually shot a gun before. so with practice and expertise in shooting?

well yeah you might have a point, maybe I'm overthinking this but then its just my fear you know.. I wish I lived in US so I can just buy a shotgun and be done with it, thats actually a method I would choose over anything. Unfortunately I live in EU country with the most strick gunlaws so its not an option..
 
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It may not be decades but even an extra day as a vegetable would be a nightmare scenario imo
For whom ? The person I once was is gone after 10 minutes. There is no coming back from this.

They can Frankenstein my body for enterity it won't bother me much.
 
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Different countries have different laws regarding passive euthanasia. You also have no way of knowing if family will decide to keep you alive in the forlorn hope that you might recover with you being unable to articulate your own wishes. It may not be decades but even an extra day as a vegetable would be a nightmare scenario imo
Write an advanced directive, I guess?
 
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Write an advanced directive, I guess?
I looked into this but it's a tedious process and there is no Catch all clause. You need to specify precise conditions.
 
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I looked into this but it's a tedious process and there is no Catch all clause. You need to specify precise conditions.
Is it really? I assume you're from Germany. You just have to write it yourself and sign it and it's valid.

I'm planning to just write: do not give me artificial breathing, feeding tubes, resuscitate me under any circumstances.

It's better than nothing.
 

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