Where is the suicide encouragement?

[butterfly000]

Pro-lifers always claim that this forum is full of suicide encouragement. Where do they get this idea from? I've been on this forum for some time and everyone here seems to be pro-choice. When people say suicide encouragement I imagine it refers to something like when someone vents about their struggles and people tell them the solution is to ctb or when someone expresses they want to ctb and people say it's the correct thing to do. This almost never happens here and if it does the mods take care of it. Are pro-lifers just making stuff up?

 

[mortuarymary]

The gutter press mainly.

 

[Dutch1986]

A lot of them see pro-choice as pro-suicide, others just repeat what they hear

 

[carac]

Apparantly "wishing someone peace" is encouraging suicide, if you are to read the news articles

 

[FuneralCry]

According to people like that anything which isn't "you need help, just get help, suicide isn't the answer, there is hope for everyone" is suicide encouragement. Those pro-lifers are severely deluded, it's best to take no notice of them and their lies. All they want to do is make it so people suffer for as long as possible with no peaceful way to escape from this existence. They are obsessed with prolonging the suffering of others so they see anything that supports the fact that it's a personal choice whether to continue existing or not as "encouragement".

 

[Hollowman]

Anything other than "don't do it" is encouragement to them.

 

[SexyIncél]

A researcher downloaded 700,000 comments and found NO ONE telling anyone to kill themselves

Thanks to mods, and members hitting the report button

This was a master's thesis paper in informatics (like compsci), reviewed by professors

 

[Tokugawa_Yoshinobu]

They make up stuff and are dishonest, do not look into it properly or they conflate anything that isn't explicitely anti-suicide as pro-suicide.

 

[UKscotty]

Encouraging someone to CTB is illegal in lots of places too.

The media just likes to make stuff up the time.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

According to pro lifers, if you aren't actively trying to prevent others from killing themselves or aren't preaching about how they shouldn't die due to how beautiful life is and the beauties of being a human being etc, you are encouraging suicide. This is the unfortunate state of our society right now

 

[butterfly000]

According to pro lifers, if you aren't actively trying to prevent others from killing themselves or aren't preaching about how they shouldn't die due to how beautiful life is and the beauties of being a human being etc, you are encouraging suicide. This is the unfortunate state of our society right now

Yeah, it's unfortunate that society is like that. I'm afraid the majority of people will always be like that, because there is an evolutionary purpose to wanting to prevent the death of others. At least we have this community though.

 

[Let Me Go]

It seems like they label people as either pro life or not and since most here are not pro life, we must be pro suicide? Maybe they don't have a better term to use. But I have not seen suicide encouragement here. I have seen compassion, support and understanding in this community which is more like pro choice to me. Or maybe it's some of the sticky threads causing them to generally label the site as pro suicide. Who knows. Or maybe since users can ask questions about methods, techniques, etc… might lead them to think this is pro suicide. I can see that. Although I haven't seen any actual encouragement of the act of suicide.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think basically, they don't like anything which says it's an acceptable decision to make. While this forum doesn't push people to do it, it may not talk them out of it- which I think is what they want. I'd argue though that if someone is clearly unsure- the push is very often for them to consider revovery.

I don't actually know what pro-lifers think it will achieve to either prohibit talk of suicide at all or, just white wash over people's clearly very serious problems with platitudes. Or- refer them to helplines or therapy. Which would be fine if they worked but I'd imagine it is in fact only a small minority of people here who haven't already tried things like that. That clearly points to them not working. They ought to be focusing on that- surely?

 

[theboy]

Pro-lifers may not understand us

 

[LifelessStranger]

Lmao, this site literally prohibits the encouragement. Ctb should be a persons ABSOLUTELY own decision. You should realize by yourself that you really see this world as something you don't want to be a part of. Succesfully encouraging someone to ctb is practically a murder. Prove me wrong if you disagree.

 

[SVEN]

Always has seemed to me like members on here are generally open minded about suicide. Folk don't get told to kill themselves, they don't get told not to. They're just treated as grown ups with minds and choices of their own. There's even a Recovery section to which I've often seen members referred. But, as the old saying goes, "when you only have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail". And, that seems to be a typical pro life stance. Anything short of, "Pull yourself together and think positive" is pro suicide in their eyes.

 

[rozeske]

Any and everything that doesn't echo anti suicide is considered encouragement in their eyes.

 

[Homo erectus]

I think there is a tendency of mainstream media to be either/or. If you are not A, you are anti-A. If you are not pro-life (anti-suicide), you are against life and pro- (encouraging) suicide.