When you ctb you’re still not at peace

[rabbithole]

Because you're not anything at all. Or that's one possibility anyway. I want peace like I had last year before my injury. I don't know if I want to be nothing. I've only ever been alive. Damnit.

at the same time death is better than suffering...

 

[Nymph]

at the same time death is better than suffering...

Yep
Not existing is peaceful to me so I do think I'll be in peace even tho we won't really "be" anymore

 

[Kat!]

Of course. I still want to live but I won't be able to do what I want, it's a big problem.

 

[sweater]

Yep
Not existing is peaceful to me so I do think I'll be in peace even tho we won't really "be" anymore

What they said. Non-existence sounds like the most peace I could ever ask for.

 

[Manford]

Because you're not anything at all. Or that's one possibility anyway. I want peace like I had last year before my injury. I don't know if I want to be nothing. I've only ever been alive. Damnit.

at the same time death is better than suffering...

You weren't alive before you were born. My assumption is it will be no different after we are dead.

 

[RainAndSadness]

Because you're not anything at all.

Sounds like peace to me.

Edit:

I've only ever been alive.

Not quite true. You were dead for 13.6 billion years. The universe existed for an incredible long time without you. Earth existed for 4.5 billion years without you. In fact, you were already "dead" before somebody gave birth to you, for a really long time, you could say for an infinite amount of time. Now, did you experience that time as anything but peaceful?

 

[rabbithole]

Sounds like peace to me.

Edit:


Not quite true. You were dead for 13.6 billion years. The universe existed for an incredible long time without you. Earth existed for 4.5 billion years without you. In fact, you were already "dead" before somebody gave birth to you, for a really long time, you could say for an infinite amount of time. Now, did you experience that time as anything but peaceful?I

Sounds like peace to me.

Edit:


Not quite true. You were dead for 13.6 billion years. The universe existed for an incredible long time without you. Earth existed for 4.5 billion years without you. In fact, you were already "dead" before somebody gave birth to you, for a really long time, you could say for an infinite amount of time. Now, did you experience that time as anything but peaceful?

I didn't experience that time at all, but I know what you mean. I just mean I want to experience peace - like feel it with a consciousness. I want to watch a movie with my cats and be at peace mentally.

 

[x~Sophia~x]

Sounds like peace to me.

Edit:


Not quite true. You were dead for 13.6 billion years. The universe existed for an incredible long time without you. Earth existed for 4.5 billion years without you. In fact, you were already "dead" before somebody gave birth to you, for a really long time, you could say for an infinite amount of time. Now, did you experience that time as anything but peaceful?

No, we weren't dead for 13.6 billion years, because we didn't exist. Death is the end of a life, and without life, we can't die.
A fetus doesn't die, it either grows and is born, and therefore has life, or it is aborted before it has life.

 

[Them]

I didn't experience that time at all, but I know what you mean. I just mean I want to experience peace - like feel it with a consciousness. I want to watch a movie with my cats and be at peace mentally.

Conscious state of peace is just not going to last. Needs arise, diseases are out there to get you, etc. You're basically programmed to seek peace by evolution through the process of natural selection. That's why you want it that bad, because striving to acquire peace keeps your organism alive for long enough to procreate and continue this silly dna replication until life goes ultimately extinct.

 

[virginiawoolf86]

I didn't experience that time at all, but I know what you mean. I just mean I want to experience peace - like feel it with a consciousness. I want to watch a movie with my cats and be at peace mentally.

I understand what you mean completely. I want to remember what it was like to be at peace. The small joys in life. What it's like not to suffer.

 

[WornOutLife]

If we only remember the happy times of our lives, not existing will certainly suck. However, the idea of not being anywhere is so weird we can't comprehend it.

I guess it must be just like when we sleep; we won't realize we're in "off mode"

Still, our brain will also be gone so, we won't even dream! Just what the hell!?

 

[virginiawoolf86]

If we only remember the happy times of our lives, not existing will certainly suck. However, the idea of not being anywhere is so weird we can't comprehend it.

I guess it must be just like when we sleep; we won't realize we're in "off mode"

Still, our brain will also be gone so, we won't even dream! Just what the hell!?

This is true!

Although, my dreams are so realistic that I often can't remember if I dreamt something or if it actually happened. Does that happen to anyone else?

 

[WornOutLife]

This is true!

Although, my dreams are so realistic that I often can't remember if I dreamt something or if it actually happened. Does that happen to anyone else?

It has happened to me many times and I think those are the reasons for my frequent deja-vus

Also, I think our dreams might be related to parallel worlds! What if it's all real but just another "you" living there?

 

[issyishere]

No, we weren't dead for 13.6 billion years, because we didn't exist. Death is the end of a life, and without life, we can't die.
A fetus doesn't die, it either grows and is born, and therefore has life, or it is aborted before it has life.

When you die and there's nothing than you never even existed in the first place, your memory of you is gone. From your perspective you were never there to exist.

 

[Meditation guide]

because striving to acquire peace keeps your organism alive for long enough to procreate and continue this silly dna replication until life goes ultimately extinct

It's a trap. We are DNA vehicles. We are here to serve our DNA and it's need for running its program.

 

[virginiawoolf86]

It has happened to me many times and I think those are the reasons for my frequent deja-vus

Also, I think our dreams might be related to parallel worlds! What if it's all real but just another "you" living there?

Whoa! I never even thought about this. That would be such a wild possibility! I wonder if that "me" is in a better place? And that being said, what if "being in a better place" means being in an alternate dimension?

 

[WornOutLife]

Whoa! I never even thought about this. That would be such a wild possibility! I wonder if that "me" is in a better place? And that being said, what if "being in a better place" means being in an alternate dimension?

That would make sense and I wouldn't find the universe so absurd.
Still, I wonder where the hell the big bang and us came from lol

 

[PureMetanoia]

Because you're not anything at all. Or that's one possibility anyway. I want peace like I had last year before my injury. I don't know if I want to be nothing. I've only ever been alive. Damnit.

at the same time death is better than suffering...

There are certain ways to kill the cognition while relaining alive - repetitive cycles of high-intensity ECT for example, however it won't let you find "the peace you had before your injury".

If you consider the state of deep, dreamless sleep to be "peaceful", most likely you will find the same, if not greater, peace in death. You will not be able to recognize it, as the cognition is dead, but similarly you don't recognize the peace and length of sleep, as cognition is deeply altered and deminished in favor of restorative neural processes, for example.

So death, most likely, is actually the truest peace, as long as you don't require luxuriating in the experience of peace,but are rather content with its complete presence.

 

[virginiawoolf86]

There are certain ways to kill the cognition while relaining alive - repetitive cycles of high-intensity ECT for example, however it won't let you find "the peace you had before your injury".

If you consider the state of deep, dreamless sleep to be "peaceful", most likely you will find the same, if not greater, peace in death. You will not be able to recognize it, as the cognition is dead, but similarly you don't recognize the peace and length of sleep, as cognition is deeply altered and deminished in favor of restorative neural processes, for example.

So death, most likely, is actually the truest peace, as long as you don't require luxuriating in the experience of peace,but are rather content with its complete presence.

Has it been proven that you won't find the same peace before your injury with ECT?

If that's the case, then why do people do it or claim it's success?

 

[rabbithole]

Conscious state of peace is just not going to last. Needs arise, diseases are out there to get you, etc. You're basically programmed to seek peace by evolution through the process of natural selection. That's why you want it that bad, because striving to acquire peace keeps your organism alive for long enough to procreate and continue this silly dna replication until life goes ultimately extinct.

I want it because peace of mind used to motivate me to become something and do something with my life. I wanted to have meaning in my life, and yeah also procreate but that's incredibly unlikely now. I could handle diseases in later life if I had accomplished something and had a family of my own. Or I like to believe that.

 

[TheSomebody]

Happiness most of the time is just an absence of suffering. You are happy only because you managed to meet your needs, which only exist because you came to exist. If you don't exist, you won't miss anything in this world and you won't suffer either. Non-existence is absolute peace and it is too good to be true.

 

[Deleted member 22624]

The worst part about death for me is I won't be able to celebrate success!

Happiness most of the time is just an absence of suffering. You are happy only because you managed to meet your needs, which only exist because you came to exist. If you don't exist, you won't miss anything in this world and you won't suffer either. Non-existence is absolute peace and it is too good to be true.

Too good to be true? That's a scary thought, kinda relying on an upcoming rest for my sanity

 

[TheSomebody]

Too good to be true? That's a scary thought, kinda relying on an upcoming rest for my sanity

One thing that life always teaches me is that what is too good is never true

 

[Deleted member 22624]

One thing that life always teaches me is that what is too good is never true

Thankfully, I suppose, it's not most people's first choice, so we're ok lol

 

[Deleted member 94]

Sounds like peace to me.

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Not quite true. You were dead for 13.6 billion years. The universe existed for an incredible long time without you. Earth existed for 4.5 billion years without you. In fact, you were already "dead" before somebody gave birth to you, for a really long time, you could say for an infinite amount of time. Now, did you experience that time as anything but peaceful?

What about the quote in bhagvad Gita, when the deity put forward the reality of reincarnation saying "never was there a time when I wasn't here, or you weren't here, nor all the others weren't here"

He likened death to people removing tattered old clothes to put on new ones.

Not pushing religion on anyone. Just adding a new dimension to this discussion.

 

[Privatehell]

Peace is a state that can only be inherited by the living, much like pain. In death the notion will cease to exist, which in itself is peaceful I suppose, but only to the living who wish to rid themselves of the parallelled anguish. Death = infinite nothingness - no peace but no pain.