TAW122
Emissary of the right to die.
- Aug 30, 2018
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I'm sure many of you already know this and most likely agree with it, but just for the those who don't know, this thread is solely for that. When someone is suicidal (that have a plan, means, and intent to do so) they are oftenly locked up involuntarily force, forced treatment against their will, then (at least in the US) billed for said services, along with other consequences such as the loss of certain civil rights, their job (if they had one and they are out for no good reason/extended time), stigma from their fellow peers and more. However, these people have broken no laws, committed no crimes (assuming their method did not break the law), or harmed anyone directly (threatened them physically). Yet they are treated like an animal, an criminal, or someone who has done something wrong. Furthermore, it is disgusting that ALL of that is 'legal' and that the suicidal person is then told to pull themselves up by their bootstraps or some other tough love rhetoric. It is no surprise that some of them then go on ahead to actually commit suicide (for real), and/or lash out against society (hurting others, taking others with them, forgoing basic human decency and more), mass shootings, killings, and what not.
It's like saying hey even though you didn't break the rules, but (written or unwritten) you will still face some consequences from your actions. Not only is that injustice, it's also grossly unfair. I suppose there is no fairness or justice (legal justice if so - but that's another topic altogether) in this shitty world. Therefore, by punishing and/or treating people who did nothing illegal, broke no laws, did no harm to others, like a criminal, it's essentially saying that "we don't like what you said, thought, or did (even though it isn't illegal), so we are going to go ahead and treat you as if you did do something wrong." Then the person has no other incentive not to commit a real crime because they are essentially being punished for something that they didn't do.
I mean imagine an cornered animal or someone who was already down and then being kicked even more just for the heck of it. There is no surprise that they would instinctively lash out and just do more damage. What incentive (if any) do they have to do better or if they even have the means to do so in the first place? Just think about that for a moment. It just doesn't make any sense, both strategically, logically. Why would someone want to do the right thing or continue to play by the rules and be the good person (good is subjective here) when they are being screwed for essentially a non-crime? The bottom line is if someone is going to be treated like a criminal despite not being one or doing stuff to deserve such treatment, then there is NO incentive to being a law abiding citizen or just not committing a crime. He/she might as well commit an actual crime because he/she is getting the same treatment. People claim that we have free will, live in a free country, but I disagree and digress (maybe freedom only when it aligns with what society wants and whatever is politically correct, socially acceptable. We don't really have free speech, real freedom, that's a myth), but that's another topic.
Note: I am not talking about nor advocating for violence or any illegal acts. I am merely exploring the absurdity of suicide prevention and the current process in which professionals, society, and government handle suicidal people.
It's like saying hey even though you didn't break the rules, but (written or unwritten) you will still face some consequences from your actions. Not only is that injustice, it's also grossly unfair. I suppose there is no fairness or justice (legal justice if so - but that's another topic altogether) in this shitty world. Therefore, by punishing and/or treating people who did nothing illegal, broke no laws, did no harm to others, like a criminal, it's essentially saying that "we don't like what you said, thought, or did (even though it isn't illegal), so we are going to go ahead and treat you as if you did do something wrong." Then the person has no other incentive not to commit a real crime because they are essentially being punished for something that they didn't do.
I mean imagine an cornered animal or someone who was already down and then being kicked even more just for the heck of it. There is no surprise that they would instinctively lash out and just do more damage. What incentive (if any) do they have to do better or if they even have the means to do so in the first place? Just think about that for a moment. It just doesn't make any sense, both strategically, logically. Why would someone want to do the right thing or continue to play by the rules and be the good person (good is subjective here) when they are being screwed for essentially a non-crime? The bottom line is if someone is going to be treated like a criminal despite not being one or doing stuff to deserve such treatment, then there is NO incentive to being a law abiding citizen or just not committing a crime. He/she might as well commit an actual crime because he/she is getting the same treatment. People claim that we have free will, live in a free country, but I disagree and digress (maybe freedom only when it aligns with what society wants and whatever is politically correct, socially acceptable. We don't really have free speech, real freedom, that's a myth), but that's another topic.
Note: I am not talking about nor advocating for violence or any illegal acts. I am merely exploring the absurdity of suicide prevention and the current process in which professionals, society, and government handle suicidal people.
