jar-baby

jar-baby

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Jun 20, 2023
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Folks with anhedonia—Is there anything that does work to make you feel pleasure? Sugary foods? Orgasms? Music? Alcohol? Other drugs?

Maybe some drugs work and some don't? I remember someone here saying that weed didn't do anything for them but alcohol did (or vice versa?)

Feel free to answer the title question in a broader way. I'm just wondering what other experiences are like.

I know this isn't directly related to suicide but anhedonia does seem to be related enough for this thread to be posted in this subforum (apologies and of course the mods can move it if it's better suited for OffTopic).
 
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Blurry_Buildings

Blurry_Buildings

Just Existing
Sep 27, 2023
398
drinking beer and then talking to people while drunk, also helps with agoraphobia, or maybe just drinking beer alone and wandering around if I cant find anyone to talk with.

I make sure to sleep after a bit so I don't have to deal with the depression that comes when the alcohol wears off. I live pretty isolated but I find human interaction pleasureable though so idk if I count as anhedonic
 
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kinderbueno

kinderbueno

Waiting at the bus stop
Jun 22, 2024
220
Eating food gives me temporary pleasure. I'm lucky I have a high metabolism otherwise I'd be overweight by now
Porn doesn't really do anything, neither does erotic fanfiction. I've tried masturbating but I rarely ever orgasm now
 
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MatrixPrisoner

MatrixPrisoner

Enlightened
Jul 8, 2023
1,376
Adderall
 
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pulleditnearlyoff

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Apr 26, 2024
109
Nope, nothing really
 
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willitpass

willitpass

Don’t try to offer me help, I’ve tried everything
Mar 10, 2020
2,062
Every now and then I get a spark to work on a hobby. I have ADHD like symptoms (undiagnosed but nearly textbook, I think it may be brain damage from surviving partial though, as it didn't start until later in adolescence) and will get periods of hyperfixation on hobbies. I can't focus on anything but the hobby, and I can't control how long the hyperfixation will last before it dies down and I don't have any interest in it for weeks-months, but when it does happen I find genuine joy in it.

As far as things I have control over, sometimes sunlight and fresh air give me a bit more clarity, though that is hit or miss. Sometimes it just makes me more pissed and apathetic when it doesn't work. Same thing with music. Very emotionally heightened music, any mood will do. Angry, positive, suicidal, etc. Any emotionally charged music has the potential to make me feel something. Intense exercise can at least give me physical feelings. Running usually gives me a good endorphin high for a little bit after, though working through the apathy to get to the point of being willing to start the run can be difficult. Overall I haven't found any consistent fix. It's all hit or miss and I usually just have to wait for my mind to shoot off some endorphins and allow me to feel something on its own terms.
 
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3/4Dead

3/4Dead

Peace, Love, Empathy
Feb 27, 2024
324
Orgasms and music are usually the last things to stop working when anhedonia comes in full swing, for me.
 
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alltoomuch2

alltoomuch2

Experienced
Feb 10, 2024
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Folks with anhedonia—Is there anything that does work to make you feel pleasure? Sugary foods? Orgasms? Music? Alcohol? Other drugs?

Maybe some drugs work and some don't? I remember someone here saying that weed didn't do anything for them but alcohol did (or vice versa?)

Feel free to answer the title question in a broader way. I'm just wondering what other experiences are like.

I know this isn't directly related to suicide but anhedonia does seem to be related enough for this thread to be posted in this subforum (apologies and of course the mods can move it if it's better suited for OffTopic).
Nothing works. Best I can do is find things I can tolerate to try to distract me from my mood swings and ctb thoughts.
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
3,824
No, nothing works for me
 
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Imagined_Euphoria

Imagined_Euphoria

Student
Aug 5, 2024
161
I don't know if what I have is called anhedonia, but its definetely very uncommon...

I don't feel pleasure by having sex, drugs don't work (including alcohol), sugar also barely makes me feel anything...I mostly eat meat, that tastes great. Also never in my life felt "accomplished" or satisfied by any work I've done for a company. So many former friends and relatives told me about how great the work life will be, contributing something...I don't feel anything by it except being incredibly bored and stressed, thats why I could never hold a job longer than a few weeks at best. I also almost never laugh when I watch anything thats supposed to be funny, which makes people look at me weird.

Music is the only thing that makes me feel alive, mostly metal and death metal.
 
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pomcustard

pomcustard

Almost free
Jul 29, 2024
58
Food can help temporarily but other than that nothing really helps. I miss when I used to enjoy making art and watching shows.
 
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Enga

Enga

Member
May 27, 2024
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It comes in waves. Sometimes nothing works at all. Other times sex and sweet food kinda helps. But even in good times it's not really a "pleasure", it's rather "something nice".
 
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DefinitelyReady

DefinitelyReady

Digging deeper just to throw it away.
Mar 14, 2024
1,022
Zoloft, Prozac, and Wellbutrin seem to be the most easily tolerated drugs. I had a double the FDA recommended dose. Took forever to find that Dr. ti know that I could even go higher. Although my life was significantly different/better back then as far as circumstances go. I couldn't imagine, at the time, it getting any worse, but it did. I was against drugs until I was like 19. Lithium is said to help with suicidal thoughts. Was on that too. Besides the weight gain I think it helped during that period, if only briefly. Getting myself to feel like I could breathe through my anxiety was another key, tried valium for the first time after failed quasi-anxiety drugs. Was on a decent amount of that while I increased the Zoloft. That was the period where I finally started dating.
After many more drugs failing to produce anything I dug for more deeper results in esketamine and DXM which are new to the depression genre, to build new pathways. Haven't been helpful but I'm really a hopeless case; and therefore not a good test subject.

I'd say try any of these combos. Took me years to get a "boost" from my chronic oversleeping (hypersomnia) and fatigue. I'm an advocate for using nootropics/stimulants for these symptoms, among others, on the clinically depressed like myself since the reward, pleasure, and motivation centers are greatly skewed. Since stimulants look to increase dopamine and target this region this increases the odds.
Still working on that currently.

I'd also advise anyone to look up "avolition" and types of "abulia" as these follow my anhedonia.

As far as behaviorally, I hate when people go overboard in preaching about sleep hygiene and eating decently/hydration but that's something else that can leave you depleted. I'd say isolation can be a killer too even though we think isolating at the time is best. We're social creatures and truly not meant to be this lonely. It leaves us to curl up with our negative crap that we can't escape and rot with it. Searching for answers that only we'd be able to find was another. Can't keep doing the same things and hoping something will change, because that day will never come. It's extremely difficult to push yourself when you're running on nothing but guilt/shame, despair, grief, and empty hopes and dreams, etc.

Therapy was always a waste for me. The only lasting thing that I ever took away from it was from a woman I liked, who simply said, "This will be the hardest thing you will ever do." Just living, as myself, in my own mind, fighting against it. A lifelong thing. It's excruciatingly painful to know you're standing in your own way, with self-destructive ways and self-sabotaging behavior, especially when you feel that you can't do anything any other way. It's literally hanging on, minute by minute. It's barbaric and brutual. I love horror movies, and also say I would Saw off my own foot at any time, just to break these chains.
 
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jar-baby

jar-baby

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Jun 20, 2023
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@DefinitelyReady
Do SSRIs help with anhedonia? My impression was that they just made you stop feeling sad by replacing the sadness with apathy, not that they could did anything for your dopamine levels. I don't know anything about the mechanisms by which lithium work though. I'll keep esketamine and DXM in mind.

I'd also advise anyone to look up "avolition" and types of "abulia" as these follow my anhedonia.
thanks! Didn't know those terms.

As far as behaviorally, I hate when people go overboard in preaching about sleep hygiene and eating decently/hydration but that's something else that can leave you depleted. I'd say isolation can be a killer too even though we think isolating at the time is best. We're social creatures and truly not meant to be this lonely. It leaves us to curl up with our negative crap that we can't escape and rot with it. Searching for answers that only we'd be able to find was another. Can't keep doing the same things and hoping something will change, because that day will never come. It's extremely difficult to push yourself when you're running on nothing but guilt/shame, despair, grief, and empty hopes and dreams, etc.
Agree with all of this.

Therapy was always a waste for me. The only lasting thing that I ever took away from it was from a woman I liked, who simply said, "This will be the hardest thing you will ever do." Just living, as myself, in my own mind, fighting against it. A lifelong thing. It's excruciatingly painful to know you're standing in your own way, with self-destructive ways and self-sabotaging behavior, especially when you feel that you can't do anything any other way. It's literally hanging on, minute by minute. It's barbaric and brutual. I love horror movies, and also say I would Saw off my own foot at any time, just to break these chains.
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Was she the one you once posted about on your profile? I guess you can't see her anymore?
 
DefinitelyReady

DefinitelyReady

Digging deeper just to throw it away.
Mar 14, 2024
1,022
@DefinitelyReady
Do SSRIs help with anhedonia? My impression was that they just made you stop feeling sad by replacing the sadness with apathy, not that they could did anything for your dopamine levels. I don't know anything about the mechanisms by which lithium work though. I'll keep esketamine and DXM in mind.


thanks! Didn't know those terms.


Agree with all of this.


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Was she the one you once posted about on your profile? I guess you can't see her anymore?
There are Idk, like 5 groups of anti-depressants... Each has their own mechanism. It's guesswork if a group, if any, will work for you. They say there are a few tests like Genesight? (may have the wrong name) where they take your blood or saliva and try to see which ones are more likely to work for you. I haven't investigated these as insurance could be an issue, and having your dr administer that into your chart could be a big bitch. Plus I think it's probably just as ineffective than trying the damn things on a trial basis. So I basically read on the groups and picked one that sounded like it could help me and would try that one.. I think genetically I have an intolerance to antidepressants though so I'm an undesirable case study. Also I'm just too far gone. But before then I had one decent try. It was a super high dose. A lot of dr's either don't know you can go above our FDA limit (medically approved) or don't like to. A lot just go by the general guide.

But to answer, I'd say yes. If you can find a sweet spot with medication (A lot of people give up after trying a few or after they see there's no improvement after a few weeks.) it's certainly possible to feel more than you are now enjoymentwise. It's definitely worth a try. I was told to try antidepressants by the age of 12, but I refused and didn't try them until age 18. I'm not bipolar, and lithium is often mostly used on the bipolar, but since reasons unknown it has a reputation of helping with suicidal thoughts, I was prescribed it at 21. Antidepressants can "poop out" (A dr's words, not mine.) on you after a sustained period of taking them too. (I'd say a year or two.) Also a lot of people take two or more. I have. It was just, necessary. Side effects are the biggest disclaimer. Memory issues, mental fog, loss of creativity, flat affect, etc. You just have to be really mindful of yourself. They say some side effects subside after the adjustment period but I don't know about that. I know they want people to not give up on them too quickly because it can take several weeks just to see any effect so Idk. You never know how you'll respond. It's definitely not a fun game, nor a quick one. But I don't think I would've been able to work or have the experiences that I did had I not tried what I did.

Esketamine and dxm work very differently. They're only a few years old here in their approval for depression. Hell dxm is a cough suppressant, but it's properties have an effect on the brain that serves dual purposes. You don't need a prescription for dxm either. I haven't consistently taken it because it's super inconvenient for personal reasons that I won't bore you with, or I'd have finished my bottle. There's a drug that's too expensive for me called Auvelity. It's wellbutrin+dxm and it's "patented formula." So I do the DIY version instead.
Esketamine is a derivative of ketamine, and ketamine isn't approved by insurance for depression here, otherwise I'd be trying that. So esketamine is light the "super lite" version of ketamine. But I've read people say ketamine didn't work but esketamine changed their life, so you just never know.

No lol, that was a different older therapist. The one I mentioned on my profile really put all her eggs in one session so to speak. Some therapists do that. You have a decent session with them, and then the rest are bs and a complete waste of time because they gave you all they had in the first session. Plus I think a lot get nervous and try to "bring it" the first time they meet you, and then they relax and don't try anymore. She had nothing to offer. You get what you pay for and my insurance only covers ones with the minimum of education required. Most psychiatrists in my area require you to see a therapist to get medication, otherwise I would not do therapy.

I even got a medical marijuana license to try cannabis. First tried it without the thc as you can get that easily. It was worth a try but ultimately no difference. Maybe if I had bought a better grade of marijuana but it would've been too expensive and I could only do edibles. I would try shrooms I could, or even just psychedelic water but it's too expensive.
 
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N33dT0D13

N33dT0D13

Xe/It
Apr 2, 2023
316
Thinking about death makes me happy lately, and laughing at dumb or absurd shit gives me some fleeting pleasure.
 
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cowboypants

cowboypants

eating grass
May 7, 2024
316
Recently started psych meds and it made it worse actually nothing helps rn.

Prn gives me temporary pleasure but I feel not interested in it even.

Same for food it's hard to want to eat anything as someone who likes food a lot
 
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Ramsay Fiction

Ramsay Fiction

Soulburner
Aug 15, 2024
42
Food, sometimes, but I can't eat very much before I get sick so it's lame anyway
 
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