What's the shelf life of heroin?

[I’vehadenough]

Thinking of dying by heroin overdose. If I buy some now and wait a year to do this, will it still be potent?

 

[allgood]

Yeh, it'd be fine for years. It's not sensitive to air/light so I don't see what could happen to it. Just wrap it in bin bag exactly like how it comes.

 

[I’vehadenough]

Yeh, it'd be fine for years. It's not sensitive to air/light so I don't see what could happen to it. Just wrap it in bin bag exactly like how it comes.

How do you know this? Just wanna make sure it works a year from now lol

 

[allgood]

How do you know this? Just wanna make sure it works a year from now lol

Because I've found wraps on the floor that are 5 or 6 months old, hell I've smoked residual from very very old bits of foil and even in that state it's still exactly the same. It's no different from a crushed up pill, they have 'expiry' dates which essentially mean nothing outside of strict medical applications (other than antibiotics or that sort). Just keep it away from anything liquid etc. and refrigerate if you want to. Stable compounds take a very long time to degrade in general.

Anyway see: https://doi.org/10.1016/0379-0738(94)90085-X

 

[I’vehadenough]

Because I've found wraps on the floor that are 5 or 6 months old, hell I've smoked residual from very very old bits of foil and even in that state it's still exactly the same. It's no different from a crushed up pill, they have 'expiry' dates which essentially mean nothing outside of strict medical applications (other than antibiotics or that sort). Just keep it away from anything liquid etc. and refrigerate if you want to. Stable compounds take a very long time to degrade in general.

Anyway see: https://doi.org/10.1016/0379-0738(94)90085-X

Thank you. Will a gram kill me if I snort it all at once? I've never done drugs before

 

[Pistolero114]

Thank you. Will a gram kill me if I snort it all at once? I'v have never done drugs before

Depends on your weight and BMI. (Body Mass Indéx) But a gram of heroin is a pretty large dosage when you consider that your body has to convert it to morphine before it can use it. Strength of heroin is 2:1. Meaning that every gram of heroin equates to two grams of morphine. So yes it probably will do the deed. Good luck whatever direction you choose.

 

[I’vehadenough]

Thanks. I'm skinny 116 pounds. This seems like a better exit than hanging, as long as I'm not vomiting

 

[allgood]

Thanks. I'm skinny 116 pounds. This seems like a better exit than hanging, as long as I'm not vomiting

You won't really be able to snort it all at once, better to take some orally. Even if you get it all in your nose it will just drip down your throat and that will result in metabolism to morphine anyway. It's usually fair to assume that 1mg H = 1mg morphine, sometimes it's less with weaker batches; but yeh that would probably kill you.

 

[Shamana]

Thanks. I'm skinny 116 pounds. This seems like a better exit than hanging, as long as I'm not vomiting

There is a danger of vomiting, but you won't vomit up the substance if you snort it, so it will still kill you.
I snorted a potent dose of heroin in experimenting for an OD and got a anxiety attack and hallucinations which made me feel that heroin is maybe not as perfect an exit drug as people think but we are all different. I guess there is always a lot on anxiety involved if you consciously ingesting a lethal dose.

 

[I’vehadenough]

You won't really be able to snort it all at once, better to take some orally. Even if you get it all in your nose it will just drip down your throat and that will result in metabolism to morphine anyway. It's usually fair to assume that 1mg H = 1mg morphine, sometimes it's less with weaker batches; but yeh that would probably kill you.

What if it's powder form of H mixed with fentynol? Idk how to drink it. So, if I snort it, are you saying I might pass out before snorting the whole gram and in that way, I wouldn't be able to die because there isn't enough in my system?

There is a danger of vomiting, but you won't vomit up the substance if you snort it, so it will still kill you.
I snorted a potent dose of heroin in experimenting for an OD and got a anxiety attack and hallucinations which made me feel that heroin is maybe not as perfect an exit drug as people think but we are all different. I guess there is always a lot on anxiety involved if you consciously ingesting a lethal dose.

How much did you snort?

 

[allgood]

What if it's powder form of H mixed with fentynol? Idk how to drink it. So, if I snort it, are you saying I might pass out before snorting the whole gram and in that way, I wouldn't be able to die because there isn't enough in my system?

How much did you snort?

No you physically won't be able to snort a gram, it will block your nose too fast and nothing will absorb aside from the drip down your throat.

 

[I’vehadenough]

No you physically won't be able to snort a gram, it will block your nose too fast and nothing will absorb aside from the drip down your throat.

Damn, so glad you told me this, so I won't die?

No you physically won't be able to snort a gram, it will block your nose too fast and nothing will absorb aside from the drip down your throat.

What if I switch nostrils? Half a gram in one and the other half in the other nostril?

 

[allgood]

Damn, so glad you told me this, so I won't die?

What if I switch nostrils? Half a gram in one and the other half in the other nostril?

You could always plug it, it's nearly as efficient as IV. Half G per nostril might work but again you'll just end up swallowing most of it which defeats the intended purpose of snorting it.

 

[I’vehadenough]

You could always plug it, it's nearly as efficient as IV. Half G per nostril might work but again you'll just end up swallowing most of it which defeats the intended purpose of snorting it.

How do you plug it?

 

[allgood]

Rectal administration - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Generally just use an oral syringe with slightly warm water and dissolved solute.

 

[calendulo]

Rectal administration - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Generally just use an oral syringe with slightly warm water and dissolved solute.

Seriously!, That's a joke!.
Rectal administration?. Ok, It is true.........rectal ad. is faster and very reliable way to medicate, but an antibiotic....heroine have a dignity.
I've see quite death cases by overdose, but I never tought....go straight on rectum.
The way of administration is intravenous, everybody knows that, althought H had a 92 or 95 of purity percentage.
I do not understand how you really could give that kind of advices to someone.

I was surprised.

 

[ThatIsTheQuestion]

Rectal administration - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Generally just use an oral syringe with slightly warm water and dissolved solute.

Where could I find instructions for dissolving ~1g? I can't do one spoon at a time as I've got a tremor and already lost a small amount moving the bag. The batch reagent tested positive as H but Avengers reviews say it doesn't have fent in it. I've considered ordering fent itself but getting H in the mail was scary enough. My plan atm is SN with meto, then H immediately after, hopefully with benzos (or just Jameson or Dewar's or Ripple or something). Maybe that's overdoing it, but the more the merrier?

 

[I’vehadenough]

Rectal administration - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Generally just use an oral syringe with slightly warm water and dissolved solute.

That looks complicated. If I shoot up a gram of heroin mixed with fentynol, will that kill me?

There is a danger of vomiting, but you won't vomit up the substance if you snort it, so it will still kill you.
I snorted a potent dose of heroin in experimenting for an OD and got a anxiety attack and hallucinations which made me feel that heroin is maybe not as perfect an exit drug as people think but we are all different. I guess there is always a lot on anxiety involved if you consciously ingesting a lethal dose.

How much did you snort? You didn't go unconscious?

 

[Throwaway9787]

That looks complicated. If I shoot up a gram of heroin mixed with fentynol, will that kill me?

How much did you snort? You didn't go unconscious?

Rectal administration isn't complicated

 

[Edward1]

A heroin overdose seems an easy way to go. Never done it so should OD really easily although I don't think I could shoot up. Anal it is...

 

[allgood]

Seriously!, That's a joke!.
Rectal administration?. Ok, It is true.........rectal ad. is faster and very reliable way to medicate, but an antibiotic....heroine have a dignity.
I've see quite death cases by overdose, but I never tought....go straight on rectum.
The way of administration is intravenous, everybody knows that, althought H had a 92 or 95 of purity percentage.
I do not understand how you really could give that kind of advices to someone.

I was surprised.

Heroin and dignity? I think you've the wrong idea about the whole process.

Maybe I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Where could I find instructions for dissolving ~1g? I can't do one spoon at a time as I've got a tremor and already lost a small amount moving the bag. The batch reagent tested positive as H but Avengers reviews say it doesn't have fent in it. I've considered ordering fent itself but getting H in the mail was scary enough. My plan atm is SN with meto, then H immediately after, hopefully with benzos (or just Jameson or Dewar's or Ripple or something). Maybe that's overdoing it, but the more the merrier?

Better to make a cooker rather than use a spoon, I've only really seen spoons used in films. If it's salt (#4) heroin there should be no need to use citric acid or anything, so the process would be simple dissolution in water with a filter for IV. You could probably do it without even heating it to be honest, if it were given enough time to properly dissolve, which would remove what is quite possibly the most 'difficult' part of the process in that it is the easiest to fuck up. This should all be done preferrably the day you wish to use it, cooked shots supposedly lose potency very quickly.

 

[Pistolero114]

About 10 to 12 months before it starts losing potency. Around the same shelf life of oxycodone and hydrocodone.

 

[I’vehadenough]

Heroin and dignity? I think you've the wrong idea about the whole process.

Maybe I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Better to make a cooker rather than use a spoon, I've only really seen spoons used in films. If it's salt (#4) heroin there should be no need to use citric acid or anything, so the process would be simple dissolution in water with a filter for IV. You could probably do it without even heating it to be honest, if it were given enough time to properly dissolve, which would remove what is quite possibly the most 'difficult' part of the process in that it is the easiest to fuck up. This should all be done preferrably the day you wish to use it, cooked shots supposedly lose potency very quickly.

How much water do you use per gram and what's a filter?

 

[allgood]

How much water do you use per gram and what's a filter?

I can't really say, not many people are cooking up grams at a time. Generally you want the smallest amount of liquid that the amount you wish to use will properly dissolve in, it takes experience and I'm not the greatest person to ask being primarily a smoker rather than IV user. Cigarette filters are the standard over here, just a clean bit of cotton to draw from is all that's required.

 

[I’vehadenough]

I can't really say, not many people are cooking up grams at a time. Generally you want the smallest amount of liquid that the amount you wish to use will properly dissolve in, it takes experience and I'm not the greatest person to ask being primarily a smoker rather than IV user. Cigarette filters are the standard over here, just a clean bit of cotton to draw from is all that's required.

You put the cotton in the cooker w the heroin and water? Why is that?

 

[allgood]

You put the cotton in the cooker w the heroin and water? Why is that?

It acts as a filter when you draw from it using a syringe. Think of it like a coffee filter, where the syringe provides the pressure to force the liquid through and thereby removes any larger bits that you wouldn't want in your veins.

 

[welshie84]

I can't really say, not many people are cooking up grams at a time. Generally you want the smallest amount of liquid that the amount you wish to use will properly dissolve in, it takes experience and I'm not the greatest person to ask being primarily a smoker rather than IV user. Cigarette filters are the standard over here, just a clean bit of cotton to draw from is all that's required.

Ah so that's what's in the middle of the spoon !!! I been wondering maybe filler. But yea makes sense.