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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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I had this question in mind when I asked myself why people are not compassionate enough towards suffering people. But then I had the thought in mind I probably was not very empathtic towards them before it hit me.

I think I have made a lot of progress as a human. For example on ethics, principles and some opinions. I think my suffering made me more compassionate. The whole thing hit me when I was pretty young, My first mixed-manic depressive epsiode and suicidal thoughts started when I was 15. I was in many instances very naive and short-sighted. But probably a lot of teenagers go through messed up development periods. Shit one thinks and does. I think on some issues I was a complete jerk. However the way I was raised was extremely detrimental. The domestic abuse at home and the bullying at school caused a lot of damage. My world view on humans became kind of misanthropical. If I had to put it into terms I had the notion the world is like survival of the fittest. I even had the distorted belief the abuse had made me stronger and more numb towards pain. The complete opposite is true. I am a vulnerable mental wreck who collapses when there is too much stress. For example on the topic welfare I was not very empathetic. Now I will need it but I am angry at politicians who do not want to increase it.

I was a conservative as a teenager now I am a lefty. Furthermore I am glad I am now way more self-aware about my pathologies than in the past.

My teenager me would probably look down at my current me and find me pathetic. I think this is not fully true. My stance on suicide also changed. As a teenager I thought if something bad happens I kill myself instantly. I was very naive and imagined it way easier than it actually is. Now I rather see suicide as the last resort. Though I still see no way around that.

I think there are several different impacts a life like mine can have. Someone who suffers a lot on a daily basis. It probably makes me kind of resentful, envious, frustrated, self-absorbed etc. But at the same time I have learned how tough life really can be. When I feel less bad I am humble for what I have and really see some things as a privilege. You often only realize how much something means to you when it is gone.

I realized how much pain and injustice there really is on this planet. When I was a teenager I thought I might need to procreate so that my children can succeed and fulfil the goals which I could not reach. Hell was this idea stupid. I think this idea was the reason why my mom abused me. She always dreamed about a materially well-off life and projected her goals at her children. I think this notion is not that seldom when parents raise their kids. But damn it is a good instruction to create very unhappy individuals.

I think my life is completely ruined and i don't see a way out of it. My mom recently had a stroke and this made me quite anxious because alone I am not able to manage my problems. I am not made for this world. I think this incident with my mom might has shown me that I am ready to kill myself when she dies. My life quality is already very bad. And I think it would break the hearts of my parents to see me committing suicide. I imagined how to behave in case my mom is close to death. I think I would try to comfort her. She ruined my life completely. She had good intentions but her means were horrendous. She was physically abused by her grandparents. So this tradition was kind of inherited. I think if she really dies I don't see a reason why not committing suicide. The person who I would hurt the most would be dead then. I think I would interpret it as sign of a higher power to end it. However rationally I know something like that probably does not exist. In case she gets another stroke which is not unlikely I try to to comfort her. I try to give her hope that her kids won't suffer extreme hardship because of her. I think this good deed would give me a good feeling when I commit suicide. The fact I acted in such a mature and morally right manner would give me the right to be selfish and kill myself.

I don't know whether such a line of thought is really healthy or good. I don't know without her help I could not manage my struggle anyway. Why not doing something morally good at the end of my life?

Sorry @Un- who commented I moved the thread to suicide discussion because it fits more the topic.
 
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hungry_ghost

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Feb 21, 2022
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"Daaamn, bitch, you cray-cray!"
 
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niiina

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Aug 20, 2022
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"Why the fuck you're still alive?"
 
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Lifeaballache

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Aug 28, 2022
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He'd be absolutely horrified. None of his childhood ambitions came true.
 
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EndlessDespair

EndlessDespair

Lonely
Nov 6, 2022
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I had this question in mind when I asked myself why people are not compassionate enough towards suffering people. But then I had the thought in mind I probably was not very empathtic towards them before it hit me.

I think I have made a lot of progress as a human. For example on ethics, principles and some opinions. I think my suffering made me more compassionate. The whole thing hit me when I was pretty young, My first mixed-manic depressive epsiode and suicidal thoughts started when I was 15. I was in many instances very naive and short-sighted. But probably a lot of teenagers go through messed up development periods. Shit one thinks and does. I think on some issues I was a complete jerk. However the way I was raised was extremely detrimental. The domestic abuse at home and the bullying at school caused a lot of damage. My world view on humans became kind of misanthropical. If I had to put it into terms I had the notion the world is like survival of the fittest. I even had the distorted belief the abuse had made me stronger and more numb towards pain. The complete opposite is true. I am a vulnerable mental wreck who collapses when there is too much stress. For example on the topic welfare I was not very empathetic. Now I will need it but I am angry at politicians who do not want to increase it.

I was a conservative as a teenager now I am a lefty. Furthermore I am glad I am now way more self-aware about my pathologies than in the past.

My teenager me would probably look down at my current me and find me pathetic. I think this is not fully true. My stance on suicide also changed. As a teenager I thought if something bad happens I kill myself instantly. I was very naive and imagined it way easier than it actually is. Now I rather see suicide as the last resort. Though I still see no way around that.

I think there are several different impacts a life like mine can have. Someone who suffers a lot on a daily basis. It probably makes me kind of resentful, envious, frustrated, self-absorbed etc. But at the same time I have learned how tough life really can be. When I feel less bad I am humble for what I have and really see some things as a privilege. You often only realize how much something means to you when it is gone.

I realized how much pain and injustice there really is on this planet. When I was a teenager I thought I might need to procreate so that my children can succeed and fulfil the goals which I could not reach. Hell was this idea stupid. I think this idea was the reason why my mom abused me. She always dreamed about a materially well-off life and projected her goals at her children. I think this notion is not that seldom when parents raise their kids. But damn it is a good instruction to create very unhappy individuals.

I think my life is completely ruined and i don't see a way out of it. My mom recently had a stroke and this made me quite anxious because alone I am not able to manage my problems. I am not made for this world. I think this incident with my mom might has shown me that I am ready to kill myself when she dies. My life quality is already very bad. And I think it would break the hearts of my parents to see me committing suicide. I imagined how to behave in case my mom is close to death. I think I would try to comfort her. She ruined my life completely. She had good intentions but her means were horrendous. She was physically abused by her grandparents. So this tradition was kind of inherited. I think if she really dies I don't see a reason why not committing suicide. The person who I would hurt the most would be dead then. I think I would interpret it as sign of a higher power to end it. However rationally I know something like that probably does not exist. In case she gets another stroke which is not unlikely I try to to comfort her. I try to give her hope that her kids won't suffer extreme hardship because of her. I think this good deed would give me a good feeling when I commit suicide. The fact I acted in such a mature and morally right manner would give me the right to be selfish and kill myself.

I don't know whether such a line of thought is really healthy or good. I don't know without her help I could not manage my struggle anyway. Why not doing something morally good at the end of my life?

Sorry @Un- who commented I moved the thread to suicide discussion because it fits more the topic.
"I thought I been told you to end it, why df u still here?"
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
37,419
My former self would probably hate the fact that I'm still trapped in this world. I've been suicidal for such a long time, the reality is that I've always felt the same towards life, always hated being here only I should have left at a much earlier date. But of course suicide can certainly be very difficult. If it was easier I would certainly be gone by now.
 
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hiddenbpd

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Oct 19, 2022
193
"We're still here? Why?" Or "Why did you accomplish so much when you could've just died?".
I wish I was kinder to myself sometimes.
 
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eternapeace

Member
Sep 10, 2022
50
"You thought it was going to get better, didn't you?"
 
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FallFadesIntoWinter

Member
Apr 25, 2022
75
What the fuck have you done with all your time on this earth???
 
WaveringLight

WaveringLight

pReTtY cOlOrS
Nov 7, 2022
85
"Well, it's the conclusion I've anticipated us coming to, but even after all that effort it wasn't enough? That's sad, but I'll give you a hug future me." Hugs. "Its quite surprising how far we've come though, you should be proud of yourself :)."
 
Fadeawaaaay

Fadeawaaaay

Visionary
Nov 12, 2021
2,160
I would be speechless and shocked
 
freevoid

freevoid

Student
Jul 11, 2022
137
She would say, "Well looks like It didn't get better. Should have killed yourself when you first wanted to."
 
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AliceTheGoon

Specialist
Jul 1, 2022
388
I probably wouldn't think anything just passing on the street but if former me knew someone like current me from before I got sick I'd probably ask a mutual acquaintance if they knew what happened, how did he get so gaunt and sickly looking. I worked with a guy who had a heart attack and came back to work much thinner and I thought he looked very unhealthy, I was a little nervous for him. That's probably how I'd be...nervous for this person's health.
 
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Unlucked

Unlucked

Student
Jul 10, 2019
188
The former me would tell me I failed them, that I should have finished nursing school or that I should have killed myself and spared us both the misery if it got this bad.
 
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ShuttingDown

Member
Nov 6, 2022
48
He say "damn dude ur more fkd now than I was before, u should have done it years ago"
 
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Scythe

Lost in a delusion
Sep 5, 2022
535
depending on how old the version of me is, childhood me would probably not understand and be shocked. After that, 12-14 maybe shocked but able to see how I arrived at this conclusion. Anything after 15 I would probably just be like "Oh well, can't say I didn't expect that."
 
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Pallf

I'm tired
May 27, 2018
357
"Wew lad."

I've done the opposite thought experiment. What would your current self say to your younger self?
 
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SamTam33

Warlock
Oct 9, 2022
764
"We knew this would happen..."

Since about the age 17 I've known my life would end tragically. I can't say I knew it would end in suicide, but I knew my exit from this earth would be messy and painful.

But for as emotional and distraught I've been practically my entire life, I never fathomed that I could feel this bad. Former me had no idea that the emotional distress could escalate to these levels.

In regards to your post OP, society would be much improved if the bad things didn't have to happen to us first before we developed empathy.

I have this sci-fi fantasy of a world where we could briefly touch someone on the arm or shoulder and immediately they'd know how we felt.

Instant empathy.
 
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SamTam33

Warlock
Oct 9, 2022
764
"Wew lad."

I've done the opposite thought experiment. What would your current self say to your younger self?
"Buy Berkshire Hathaway stock when you get some extra money... and stay away from windows."
 
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Pallf

I'm tired
May 27, 2018
357
I'd tell my younger self to lower her expectations massively. Also she's gay. Might as well rip off the band-aid
 
wiltedLotus

wiltedLotus

World drifts in, and the world’s a stranger..
Nov 8, 2022
18
My former self would probably hate the fact that I'm still trapped in this world. I've been suicidal for such a long time, the reality is that I've always felt the same towards life, always hated being here only I should have left at a much earlier date. But of course suicide can certainly be very difficult. If it was easier I would certainly be gone by now.
If feel you so much…I watched The Hours recently for the first time since I was 15…and I remember thinking back then 'huh, maybe that's how I'll do it some day'…kinda crazy how shit comes full circle at the end
 
Jupit3rs

Jupit3rs

"I'm finally going home... to the stars"
Feb 23, 2022
65
"So i was sadly right..."
 
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Dying Failure

Member
Oct 9, 2022
50
Don't do the right thing you'll only end up in heartache and heartbroken 💔
 
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Dysgenic Pup

Dysgenic Pup

A canine that’s not so heavenly.
Sep 18, 2021
435
You blew it! You could've died before living to see yourself lose all of your dignity!
 

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