what would you consider too young

[eSpJon]

is 24 still too young for cbt or normal?

 

[Meretlein]

It is not about age but about someone's situation. Age is just one part of someone's situation.

 

[eSpJon]

It is not about age but about someone's situation. Age is just one part of someone's situation.

if its about situation then 99% it wont get better with age

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

Very, very volatile subject. I don't have the guts to answer honestly. :( I will say, though, I've been suicidal since I was 9. And every year since then has gotten considerably worse. It would have been a great mercy (to me) to have died when I was a child. ... ... ...

 

[DoesANameEvenMatter]

Although its not the norm yet, it's definitely growing. I'm 18 myself, and the second I get my hands on N I'm out. But as the comment above said, suicide is usually due to a situational thing, be it a trauma that happened during ones childhood or simply boredom of life.

 

[Jean4]

Depends on the issue. I have no problems with a 4 year old with a terminal illness in pain CTB, since Euthanasia isn't available.

 

[jgm63]

Guess it depends on what things you have tried to get better, etc.
If you feel you've tried everything and nothing helps, then I guess there comes a point where something inside you just feels like "enough is enough".

 

[TrailerTrash]

Subjective - its a choice among all the other life choices .... a big one with lots of after-ripples yes, but in the end just another choice.

 

[Wayfaerer]

It purely depends on the circumstances. Generally speaking? I think you should at least be 25 before you seriously consider suicide. However, there are cases where I can completely understand someone ending it all before then.

 

[pole]

if its about situation then 99% it wont get better with age

situations can be have the potential for change, that allows someone to get better and progress as they age. I agree, one's situation has more value than one's age.

However, situation's don't get worse with age. It's different for everyone, but some do get better by a change in situation and continually get better as they age. Some get worse as they age, for ex, like a medical condition. however contextually, everyday problems that someone can face other than just medical problems are situational that can be amended and age wouldn't have any relevance to it.

Same goes with age and situation together in a diff sense. Someone could be young as shit, but suffering due to medical conditions or some sort of problems that could be physically and mentally deteriorating their mental and physical state; and going through more than you're average person who's fairly older and vice versa.

 

[Fragile]

i think that this should not be about age, it should be about individual circumstances.

a child killing themselves at 12 is horrible, heart crushing and devstating, but what if that child suffered from phisical pain that couldn't even be measured and had a life of pure abuse and trauma? besides, who are we to define a specific age to be ideal for suicide?

in my opinion pain in general is the most subjective thing that we humans know of, and since not only is pain extremely personal, but the future is also extremely uncertain, there is no way of knowing if that was a good or a bad choice, i could kill myself today and tomorrow science would find a cure to all my illnesses or i could endure 40 years of pure pain while decaying and have done nothing but suffer through it for no reason at all.

of course not to say that 12 year olds should go around killing themselves, that was just an extreme example but you get the idea.

we are forced the right to live, but not the right to live happy lives or the right to end them with dignity. you are your own being and the decision is yours regardless of age and even circumstances, some people find suicide as the rational choice even while living perfectly good lives.

 

[BlueWidow]

every year since then has gotten considerably worse. It would have been a great mercy (to me) to have died when I was a child. ... ... ...

I can certainly relate to that. I feel the same way.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

suicide is usually due to a situational thing, be it a trauma that happened during ones childhood or simply boredom of life.

Hi, would you mind elaborating? What is a "situational thing"? Thanks... BTW, I wish I'd had the courage and presence of mind at 18 to ctb. I envy your resolve.

 

[Fragile]

Very, very volatile subject. I don't have the guts to answer honestly. :( I will say, though, I've been suicidal since I was 9. And every year since then has gotten considerably worse. It would have been a great mercy (to me) to have died when I was a child. ... ... ...

I feel you, being suicidal since very early in life is hard, specially when everything keeps getting worse and worse. dying at 10 would have spared me from so much pointless suffering.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

dying at 10 would have spared me from so much pointless suffering.

AAAAAAA-MEN!

 

[BlueWidow]

i think that this should not be about age, it should be about individual circumstances.

a child killing themselves at 12 is horrible, heart crushing and devstating, but what if that child suffered from phisical pain that couldn't even be measured and had a life of pure abuse and trauma? besides, who are we to define a specific age to be ideal for suicide?
. . . .
of course not to say that 12 year olds should go around killing themselves, that was just an extreme example but you get the idea.

I agree.
I got tired of being alive when I was 12.
I had a nervous breakdown. I became depressed and psychotic. I began hearing voices that were telling me that if I ended my life I would find my mom, which at the time was all I wanted. All I wanted was to be with my mom (who died of cancer when I was 3). Also at the time, my sister Glenda, who was like a second mother to me, was dying of cancer. I knew that she would be dead very soon and I would be left alone with a family that hated me.
I was placed in the psych ward for the first time at the age of 13 where they kept telling me that " Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem".
Now I'm 50 and I still have many of the same problems I had at the age of 12 and 13.
And I still have people telling me that my problems are temporary and/or easily solved if I would just try hard enough.
I agree it has nothing to do with age and everything to do with your situation and whether or not you have any hope that it's going to change or get better.
It's true that if you're younger, you might have more hope or more time for something to change or get better or for something completely unexpected to happen.
I certainly never expected to meet anyone like my husband because I didn't think people like him existed, let alone that someone like him would not only exist but would want to spend their time, and eventually their life, with me.
So unexpected, yet pleasant surprises can happen. On the other hand, even if something like that does happen, it may not ultimately change the ultimate trajectory of your life. In my case, my life has always been headed in the direction that it's going in now. My husband was just a pleasant detour that allowed me to live an extra 26 years that I otherwise probably wouldn't have lived. Without him, I would've ctb a long time ago, so in the end, all he did was delay the inevitable.

 

[Fragile]

I agree.
I got tired of being alive when I was 12.
I had a nervous breakdown. I became depressed and psychotic. I began hearing voices that were telling me that if I ended my life I would find my mom, which at the time was all I wanted. All I wanted was to be with my mom (who died of cancer when I was 3). Also at the time, my sister Glenda, who was like a second mother to me, was dying of cancer. I knew that she would be dead very soon and I would be left alone with a family that hated me.
I was placed in the psych ward for the first time at the age of 13 where they kept telling me that " Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem".
Now I'm 50 and I still have many of the same problems I had at the age of 12 and 13.
And I still have people telling me that my problems are temporary and/or easily solved if I would just try hard enough.
I agree it has nothing to do with age and everything to do with your situation and whether or not you have any hope that it's going to change or get better.
It's true that if you're younger, you might have more hope or more time for something to change or get better or for something completely unexpected to happen.
I certainly never expected to meet anyone like my husband because I didn't think people like him existed, let alone that someone like him would not only exist but would want to spend their time, and eventually their life, with me.
So unexpected, yet pleasant surprises can happen. On the other hand, even if something like that does happen, it may not ultimately change the ultimate trajectory of your life. In my case, my life has always been headed in the direction that it's going in now. My husband was just a pleasant detour that allowed me to live an extra 26 years that I otherwise probably wouldn't have lived. Without him, I would've ctb a long time ago, so in the end, all he did was delay the inevitable.

your story is so tragic, and yet, there is so much love when you speak about your husband.

i can't even imagine how hard it must be to loose someone like him, specially when other people seem to dismiss your problems with the same "temporary problems" bullshit, some people just completely lack empathy and have no touch. i'm so sorry that you are dealing with this.

maybe life is just lots little detours that lead to the same conclusion, but i can't see myself living much longer if i have already suffered so much, you are so strong for living so far and through so much darkness, i hope that you find that little detour that leads you to peace one day.

 

[Sweet emotion]

is 24 still too young for cbt or normal?

No I don't think so at all. At 20 I got sick with the highest ranking pain condition in medical history. I'm 34 now and wished I would have killed myself at 24.

It is not about age but about someone's situation. Age is just one part of someone's situation.

I agree. It just hurts me to see anyone in their teens kill themselves because I always hope that they can find a good shrink or a therapist. Not that it's going to work because nothing is guaranteed but I just hope people try everything in their power possible before they do it. I wanted to die when I was 15-17 because my OCD was so bad but I got some great therapy and it helped me immensely.

if its about situation then 99% it wont get better with age

It depends what the situation is. If it's a chronic pain condition like mine then no it's not going to get better only worse. I just hope you exhaust every avenue before you decide to end it.

Depends on the issue. I have no problems with a 4 year old with a terminal illness in pain CTB, since Euthanasia isn't available.

Even though a four year old would never kill themselves j agree with you.

Hi, would you mind elaborating? What is a "situational thing"? Thanks... BTW, I wish I'd had the courage and presence of mind at 18 to ctb. I envy your resolve.

I guess he means what kind if situation you're in. Like if you have a degenerative painful condition that is only going to get worse like me. I got it at 20 but I've heart of some people get it at 13. Talk about heart breaking and cruel. Or if it's maybe OCD that you can get treatment for. I am pretty sure I was born with that but at 15 it got really bad and I wanted to die. But I found a great therapist who helped me overcome it.

 

[Pikashuu83]

I wouldn't consider any age "too young". We may have a 16 year old with a terminal illness, who just is looking a way to escape the pain, his situation may never improve, so telling him that he is "too young" is unfair, we don't understand his true pain, he does and he knows why he is at the threshold of CTB.

Same goes the other way around, no one is too old to CTB, I have heard people telling my Grandfather to "have patience for a few years" as his time is nearly here. I don't think it's fair for others to judge when someone's time is here. Some are just looking for peace, let them choose and not judge them.

 

[Thisisjustadream]

is 24 still too young for cbt or normal?

Im 24 i hope to kill myself before i turn 25

 

[Reyki6667]

For me, for what I qualify for to soon for suicide is when the person hadn't seek any treatment for at least 3 to 5 years an exhausted available means before ending it.
age is unrelated.
You can develop severe MDD, dystimia, BPD even before 5 years old.

 

[Mr2005]

Im 24 i hope to kill myself before i turn 25

Anything under 25 I was going to say

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

I'm 26 and think I'm too young to diem But I think I've lived enough. I experienced everything I wanted in life.

 

[Shakespear's Brother]

Even though a four year old would never kill themselves

I Never Knew a 4-Year-Old Could Be Suicidal

This is so powerful.

themighty.com

Holy shit, typing in '4 year old suicide' into DDG brings up a lot of results.

 

[imstillhungry]

I'm 24 too. I don't consider myself too young, 24 years of suffering is more than enough if you ask me

 

[WilliamKline]

This is going to sound ghastly but I can't help but looking at family members and being glad that 'at least I'm not the first one to die' since one of my cousins passed away last year (of a terminal illness, not her own choice). Also, seeing as that just about 150 yrs ago many died before reaching adult age, age is relative.

A generation ago you were done at 75, now in the Western world it's shifted to being done at 85. In the future that might grow to easily reaching 100, in the end it's about quality of life, not length of life

 

[MeltingHeart]

I Never Knew a 4-Year-Old Could Be Suicidal

This is so powerful.

themighty.com

Holy shit, typing in '4 year old suicide' into DDG brings up a lot of results.

gosh that is so so sad! Awul that is could have been whilst he was still in the womb! I have read/ watched quite a few things about Bi-Polar and that does seem to sometimes come on v.early-often in v.early adolescence- and many times without even any signifucant traumatic childhood (ie - no 'nuture' factors) events. -Like that docu- Boy Interupted- you could see this 'darkness/sadness' deep in his eyes- he'd had a normal stable upbringing, loving and caring family etc.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

But it depends on how you lived. I prefer living 20 years like a billionaire than 60 years in jail.

 

[Shakespear's Brother]

gosh that is so so sad!

It is sooooooooo sad and heartbreaking.