What will happen to people once AI takes over?

[sserafim]

Once AI takes over all of the jobs and replaces people, what will happen to them? I don't see a UBI ever being implemented in the US. Will there be mass death and destruction?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

AI won't take over all jobs there r plenty of jobs that can't be done by an AI. But there will some jobs and people being replaced by AI.

 

[sserafim]

AI won't take over all jobs there r plenty of jobs that can't be done by an AI. But there will some jobs and people being replaced by AI.

Like what? Could you give some examples

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Like what? Could you give some examples

Crafts jobs can't be done by AI, an AI won't be able to build a house to live in however it may be able to help with the construction plan but the actual work won't be done by an AI.

 

[sserafim]

Crafts jobs can't be done by AI, an AI won't be able to build a house to live in however it may be able to help with the construction plan but the actual work won't be done by an AI.

What other jobs can't be done by an AI? What about science, research and the medical field? Which jobs and people will be replaced by AI?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

What about like science, research or medical field jobs?

I think KI can help in science and in medical fields with data analysis for example and related stuff but an AI (a robot) won't do surgeries anytime soon maybe assisting.

 

[sserafim]

I think KI can help in science and in medical fields with data analysis for example and related stuff but an AI (a robot) won't do surgeries anytime soon maybe assisting.

What about like research in a lab?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

What about like research in a lab?

I think AI will be (or already is) involved in working on data stuff, analysis and such. But imo there will be manpower needed to produce that data materials with experiments and such.

 

[sserafim]

I think AI will be (or already is) involved in working on data stuff, analysis and such. But imo there will be manpower needed to produce that data materials with experiments and such.

I mean like wet lab

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I mean like wet lab

What is wet lab? Sorry my ignorance.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I just think things will carry on with perhaps even more of a divide between the rich and the poor. The rich will be able to afford AI, robotics and run companies that mostly use AI. Just like when robots started to make cars etc. The workforce was decimated. A few people would be kept on to keep the robots running and the CEO would eventually be laughing all the way to the bank while their former employees suffered.

That said, I suppose it depends what drives the economy. If it's still consumerism, then- the rich still need a massive population to buy all the shit they manufacture. Unless they can convince robots and AI that they need the latest gadgets/upgrades. Lol. Advertisements for AI. That would be funny.

It's hard to imagine though. If everyday people can't work then, they can't get money. Maybe communities will spring up off grid where people revert back to supporting themselves within smaller groups.

 

[Final_Choice]

In a perfect world where humans are no longer needed to make sure society continues to function because AI replaces jobs, capitalism will no longer be needed since we would no longer needs to encourage people to work so much and we would adopt a new governmental style. However, I imagine that those will power will try to min-max the job market to replace all positions they can while still maintaining capitalism, their companies, and power they have.

 

[Scythe]

I'm hoping for a worldwide worker revolution, but realistically we'd maybe get one country that has a revolution that leds to basically nowhere and ppl continue getting replaced. Then we'd have more poverty and homeless ppl, while the rich showers in gold.

 

[sserafim]

I'm hoping for a worldwide worker revolution, but realistically we'd maybe get one country that has a revolution that leds to basically nowhere and ppl continue getting replaced. Then we'd have more poverty and homeless ppl, while the rich showers in gold.

Do you think that the elites will implement population control measures? They'll have no use for people anymore…

 

[Scythe]

Do you think that the elites will implement population control measures?

Hey, they might finally make euthanasia avaliable for everyone. I don't know what other method there would be, but I can also imagine people will be forced into jobs they hate, and the shitty jobs always hiring finally won't be anymore. So maybe there won't be too big of an increase.

 

[Adûnâi]

AGI is going to fix literally all our issues due to cheap, unlimited energy and insane labour efficiency rise. And in my case, I will get an AI to socialise with in a relationship.

Crafts jobs can't be done by AI, an AI won't be able to build a house to live in however it may be able to help with the construction plan but the actual work won't be done by an AI.

Cringe, AI will improve robotics as well. All jobs will be replaced, just a matter of order.

 

[deathslament]

Cringe

Annoying when you so much as it.

AI will improve robotics as well. All jobs will be replaced, just a matter of order.

No the fuck it won't. Not as long as there is opposition, those with a brain being used.

 

[Adûnâi]

No the fuck it won't. Not as long as there is opposition, those with a brain being used.

Luddites have never won against technology, or do you mean something else?

 

[deathslament]

Luddites have never won against technology, or do you mean something else?

AI won't replace jobs, artist, programmers, all the other lots.
Circuitry can't replace flesh and pulse.

 

[Adûnâi]

AI won't replace jobs, artist, programmers, all the other lots.
Circuitry can't replace flesh and pulse.

Artists and programmers are already being replaced, ironic that you've brought those two up. And AI is already helping me with chatting because I have no people to talk to. And it's only going to get better!

Ultimately, I'm not sure for whom you are rooting for. So many pity the artists, but aren't they a tiny minority? Whereas the vast majority would benefit from on-demand, free to make art. And so it applies to the rest.

 

[sserafim]

AI won't replace jobs, artist, programmers, all the other lots.
Circuitry can't replace flesh and pulse.

Aren't artists and programmers already being replaced by AI?

 

[Winterreise]

Do you think that the elites will implement population control measures? They'll have no use for people anymore…

Depends on how much power we let these bastards have. In western democracys, power restriction is our most important mechanisms.
But feel free to ask ai these questions

 

[sserafim]

Depends on how much power we let these bastards have. In western democracys, power restriction is our most important mechanisms.
But feel free to ask ai these questions

Wdym

 

[GreyCTB]

Depends on how much power we let these bastards have. In western democracys, power restriction is our most important mechanisms.
But feel free to ask ai these questions

But these power restriction measures in the west were not implemented as a choice based solely on ethics or rationality, but rather because societies become less efficient under dictatorial-type governments. During WW2 and after many less-democratically inclined governments got naturally selected by democratic nations as those are technologically and economically superior (democracies and or capitalism leads to internal competition, which leads to more technological advances, which leads to more military power, etc.). This happened naturally, and not because a select group of people out of the blue chose for it to be so.

Similarly, it is infeasible to place restrictions of the development and or capabilities of AI. AI has a lure of immense power; physically, financially and militarily. Any government/company/military will not want to stop these developments for themselves, as then another entity will go and get it and get the upper hand. Let alone that it will be introduced as something positive (AI will eliminate the need for people to work, it will cure cancer, etc. etc.), rather than framing it in the broader picture (a cog in the techno-industrial system which enslaves humanity and removes all individual autonomy), leading to AI developments having effectively no resistance, especially not by those who pull the strings.

So to say that we could place limits on AI is in my opinion kind of naive. It will take it's natural course, and given the complexity of our world it is impossible to say what that exactly entails, but it's not likely to be anything positive for the human race (or any of the life on earth).

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

There was already an attempt to implement UBI for some selected ppl in Ontario Canada but it got stopped by the conservatives.
It's true that USA is kinda it's own thing but they might be pushed to conform to other countries like EU and Canada and get on the UBI train.