Venting what is worth 1 hour of the worst constant pain ?

[pthnrdnojvsc]

to me nothing is worth even 1 second of the worst pain. to me nothing is worth anything anyway . nothing matters except me avoiding unbearable pain or extreme suffering.

any human or other animal can fall into a trap of unedning constant unbearable pain.

but i never see people talk abuot the many horrible things that can happen like diseases, accidents, stroke, kidnapping torture, parasites, etc. i guess most people think something horrible will never happen to them. and also seems like they think they are immortal and wll never die. to them Death is the worst thing to me it's the best thing for me the escape from this evil world and all the threats.

Imagine a giant steel griddle like a hot metal plate 3 meters square. underneath are coals on fire heating the steel gridle to red hot.

you approach the steel griddle and feel the heat and see the steel is almost red hot.

what is worth the pain of putting a finger on the burning hot steel ? no one could stand a second and would pull the finger back immeditealy similar to accidentally putting your hand on a hot metal plate or red hot stove burner. pain receptors on a few milimeters of skin on the finger send pain signals so bad it's unbearable to hold it against red hot steel. so you could hold it there an hour? what about having to put your whole hand then the pain would be exponentially greater because more pain receptors are sending signals to the brain. it's the brain that is a torture chamber.

yeah torturers use that to get people to do or say anything. but they couldn't do it if the brain couldn't produce such pain.

what about all the skin of the body against burning red hot steel ? how long could you hold it . the level of such pain for even a second is unimaginable to most. and hour ? 10 hours constant unbearable pain? weeks years constant unbearable pain every second. what is worth that a clickbait youtube video, eating food? not to me not even a second of the worst pain. to me there is pain a trillion times worse than that of putting the whole skin against a scalding hot steel gridle. imo the brain has that ability for such pain or suffering

they created tortures similar to this like the Brazen Bull torure in which they put a person into a giant hollow brass bull and lit a fire underaneath the bull .

Torture wouldn't be a thing if it pain was totally unwanted by everyone.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/brazen-bull-torture-device-purpose.html

 

[snooperdooper]

Wow I've actually thought about this. What if some god or something gave me the opportunity to go to the perfect afterlife and live out all my fantasies/pleasures so long as I endured a day of unimagineable pain. Would I be able to get through it with my mental state intact? Idk. But to answer your question, that perfect afterlife. I know you hate everything about life but I would like to live out all my desires before my energy is dissolved back into the universe.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Wow I've actually thought about this. What if some god or something gave me the opportunity to go to the perfect afterlife and live out all my fantasies/pleasures so long as I endured a day of unimagineable pain. Would I be able to get through it with my mental state intact? Idk. But to answer your question, that perfect afterlife. I know you hate everything about life but I would like to live out all my desires before my energy is dissolved back into the universe.

how long could you hold your hand down strongly against a red hot metal plate? i don't think 10 seconds.

what about how long could you sit in a white 3 meter by 3 meter room with nothing in there locked . you get basic needs like water and food piped in a bed and cleaning tub . so you get your basic needs we all have to work hard to constantly take care of for free but you have to sit in that room with nothing just 4 bare white walls. how long do you think you can sit in that room ? I think most humans would surrender and quit the room after a few hours a few hardy ones might last a few days. so the brain is a torture chamber even with physical needs met for free you would still go insane with suffering in that room after a few weeks months years , boredom etc. what's worth any of this ?

 

[Morte]

An hour of immeasurable pleasure wouldn't make you happy; but an hour of immeasurable suffering would leave you traumatized by life.

 

[avalokitesvara]

It is one reason I want to die. I sometimes think this world is just an endless experiment in exhausting all the possible ways for beings to suffer. Over and over again we invent new ways to create hell. I want to deny my knowledge that Guantanamo Bay exists. That torture is happening right now. That children are being raped right now. Monkeys put in blenders. Women having metal objects inserted into their cervixes. People being set on fire. Waterboarded. All of it is happening. Right now. And it is always *I* that it happens to. This is what I can't comprehend. How can people not realise that when they create hell they are creating it not only for themselves in the form of perpetrator, but also themselves in the form of the victim, and for themselves as all beings.

How can I live knowing my food comes from sources where people are exploited and all but tortured to produce it? That everything I do is complicit in pain and suffering? How can I choose to carry on being complicit? Yet here I am.

 

[yukiovos]

I always wondered what is the maximum "pain" someone could experience. If there was a way to measure it correctly.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I always wondered what is the maximum "pain" someone could experience. If there was a way to measure it correctly.

https://www.quora.com/Does-a-person-have-a-limit-to-the-amount-of-pain-they-can-actually-feel-Or-can-pain-increase-infinitely/answer/Deborah-Joy-8?no_redirect=1

"Does a person have a limit to the amount of pain they can actually feel? Or can pain increase infinitely?"

In my experience there is no limit to the amount of pain one can feel. Pain continues to increase, without treatment for the underlying cause and without any pain relief medication or technique the pain will increase infinitely. Just when I thought I understood what a "10" was when they say, 1 meaning no pain and a 10 being the worst pain imaginable (hey, I have a very good imagination) the bar raises and the pain would continue to increase, thus becoming the worst pain beyond imaginable. I have gone into shock from pain, a team of doctors surrounding me, standing with a white board trying to figure out what was going on. I gather people think that once in shock you are beyond pain. At risk of death and passed the pain threshold. Not in my experience. In my experience, once the pain has increased to such a level that the body is going into shock absolutely everything makes it worse. The slightest movement, the lightest movement of air from a nurse walking by, soundwaves from someone standing nearby and speaking in a mild voice. The pain was my right hand and arm, taking a full breath caused too much movement and made it worse. I couldn't blink my eyes. The idea of speaking made it worse. I lay there, eyes open, breathing as gently I could, trying to endure each second.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-greatest-amount-of-pain-a-human-can-withstand-before-dying

 

[yukiovos]

https://www.quora.com/Does-a-person-have-a-limit-to-the-amount-of-pain-they-can-actually-feel-Or-can-pain-increase-infinitely/answer/Deborah-Joy-8?no_redirect=1

"Does a person have a limit to the amount of pain they can actually feel? Or can pain increase infinitely?"

In my experience there is no limit to the amount of pain one can feel. Pain continues to increase, without treatment for the underlying cause and without any pain relief medication or technique the pain will increase infinitely. Just when I thought I understood what a "10" was when they say, 1 meaning no pain and a 10 being the worst pain imaginable (hey, I have a very good imagination) the bar raises and the pain would continue to increase, thus becoming the worst pain beyond imaginable. I have gone into shock from pain, a team of doctors surrounding me, standing with a white board trying to figure out what was going on. I gather people think that once in shock you are beyond pain. At risk of death and passed the pain threshold. Not in my experience. In my experience, once the pain has increased to such a level that the body is going into shock absolutely everything makes it worse. The slightest movement, the lightest movement of air from a nurse walking by, soundwaves from someone standing nearby and speaking in a mild voice. The pain was my right hand and arm, taking a full breath caused too much movement and made it worse. I couldn't blink my eyes. The idea of speaking made it worse. I lay there, eyes open, breathing as gently I could, trying to endure each second.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-greatest-amount-of-pain-a-human-can-withstand-before-dying

Very interesting sources. What do you think is the most amount of time someone can endure the most pain possible or not even the most pain possible but think of it as an "equation"? because pain is caused from damage to the body and being constantly damaged (physically or mentally) should have a time limit?

 

[Kurwenal]

Personally, no amount of pain is worth anything. I have come to gather that I have what others would consider an exceedingly low tolerance for pain. When I stub my toe, which happens often because I'm a clumsy moron, it hurts for hours, if not into the next day. And it's all I can think about. It consumes me. Any pain or discomfort I feel becomes everything to me. I fixate on it, I can't get away. I live in what my doctor tells me is chronic pain. But I suspect a normal person would probably just consider it a normal day, if they felt what I feel. My mind amplifies every harmful physical sensation to the point of being unbearable. Even when I have an itch somewhere, I will scratch it and scratch it and scratch it until I bleed, and then scratch even more. That causes more pain, of course. But I get so obsessed with whatever physical discomfort or pain I experience that it is everything and all the time.

I also have no particularly good sense of time. Time management was always a weakness for me. I can't conceptualize how long an hour is, or a minute, even 30 seconds. The notion of time flying by when you're having fun and dragging when you're not speaks to me profoundly , because I never feel like time moves 'normally'. Less and less often now does it move quickly, sadly.

All this was to give context to my answer for your scenario of whether 1 hour of the worst constant pain could ever be worth it. Personally, never. Because that 1 hour would be an eternity and then some, and that worst constant pain would break me in ways I didn't realize I hadn't already been broken in.

In my experience there is no limit to the amount of pain one can feel. Pain continues to increase, without treatment for the underlying cause and without any pain relief medication or technique the pain will increase infinitely. Just when I thought I understood what a "10" was when they say, 1 meaning no pain and a 10 being the worst pain imaginable (hey, I have a very good imagination) the bar raises and the pain would continue to increase, thus becoming the worst pain beyond imaginable. I have gone into shock from pain, a team of doctors surrounding me, standing with a white board trying to figure out what was going on. I gather people think that once in shock you are beyond pain. At risk of death and passed the pain threshold. Not in my experience. In my experience, once the pain has increased to such a level that the body is going into shock absolutely everything makes it worse. The slightest movement, the lightest movement of air from a nurse walking by, soundwaves from someone standing nearby and speaking in a mild voice. The pain was my right hand and arm, taking a full breath caused too much movement and made it worse. I couldn't blink my eyes. The idea of speaking made it worse. I lay there, eyes open, breathing as gently I could, trying to endure each second.

I'm so sorry for that horrific experience. I can't imagine or understand it. I hope you can find moments, at least, of peace.

I always hated that one of the first things paramedics ask you is to rate your pain from 1 to 10. I always freeze. I just can't begin to condense something so complicated into a mere number. It could be 1 to 1,000 even, but I have no way to place pain in such a scale.

 

[kunikuzushi]

Nothing. I want to die because I'm experiencing horrible pain every day and it's all for nothing. There's nothing I even want. I can't think of anything worth this daily pain and it's probably not even close to the worst pain possible, even though it already feels like torture.

 

[Scythe]

I'm willing to take quite a bit to have my body be turned into what I want it to be maybe not an hour of the worst pain, but maybe 15 minutes?
I'd be willing to take the hour if it means I die at my current set date, and my game is finished and is popular, thinking 2k players playing on launch day, but I'll take 1k too.

 

[qewpie]

if 1 hr of constant pain would magically restore me to how i was before i got sick, i'll take it


it's a trade 1 hr of pain with a guaranteed end, against months to years to maybe permanently living with a medium-level misery, disability and balance disorder

 

[Kurwenal]

I'm willing to take quite a bit to have my body be turned into what I want it to be maybe not an hour of the worst pain, but maybe 15 minutes?
I'd be willing to take the hour if it means I die at my current set date, and my game is finished and is popular, thinking 2k players playing on launch day, but I'll take 1k too.

Not to derail the thread, but I just hope you can find some solace in your creative output while on this earth and making your game. It's a precious and rare talent to be able to create, and I hope it brings you joy while it can. In the past, playing games were always the one concrete thing that kept me going, and maybe your game can one day give someone you don't know and will never meet a bit of happiness too. I wish you well, whatever happens.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Very interesting sources. What do you think is the most amount of time someone can endure the most pain possible or not even the most pain possible but think of it as an "equation"? because pain is caused from damage to the body and being constantly damaged (physically or mentally) should have a time limit?

people can be tortured for decades in nursing homes as this doctor describes.

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incurable skin sores can last for months of pain

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https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/bJCKJZ2qBkWc5QrE2/maximum-level-of-suffering