Discussion What is the main rational and philosophical argument that supports your decision to kill yourself?

[Teleftaía Anapnoí]

My main argument is that we have made the world unsustainable for human life and, unfortunately, for other species as well. This kind of thing sucks. Furthermore, I also think that the Void, the Nothing, call it what you want, is the essence of all things. I want to go towards Nothing and find the essence by myself.

 

[ddn.ctb]

We have choice over our lives to live or to die

 

[Moniker]

Given that I am myself, I have a right to do whatever I want with my own body. That would have to include destroying it however I please. The inverse is also true. I don't think people have the right to control the bodies of others. So, everyone ought to be able to choose if they should live or not regardless of what anyone else thinks. Even if someone's reason for suicide is irrational, I think it would be wrong to force them to live out their entire life.

That is all to say I don't need to support my decision - I have the right to do whatever I want with my body.

 

[SpiritualDeath]

Promortalism. More of a negative utilitarian aspect of it - how death is not a harm for the one who dies (or at least not as harmful as people make it out to be). Actually death is the only way in this existence to 100% prevent all future suffering which is futile and unnecessary in the first place.
The logic of deprivationists (people who think death is bad because it deprives the person of possible future happiness) can be easily debated: deprivation only exists if there exists a need/desire first.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I don't think this is philosophical but here goes nothing.

Firstly, I'm assuming that, after death, there is non existence and no afterlife. In other words, we do not have the sentience to comprehend or visualise or interact with anything. It's completely dark but you don't know that as there is no "you" anymore

Now then, when I consider my reasons for suicide, I look at how death would actually impact me relative to me existing right now. If I died right now, my suffering would end and, relative to my current state, I'd be more at peace even if I can't comprehend said peace.

Additionally, and this is really important, for those who say that I get a better chance of a better life if I continue living, I say that, if I do kill myself right now, there would be no future for me as I do not exist and even if I were to hypothetically get better were I to continue on living, it wouldn't matter to me as I'd be dead and hence I can't feel regret or any feeling. Sure, I may miss out on happiness if I'm dead but, simultaneously, I'd also not be able to comprehend that so I can't really feel depressed over this if I'm dead.

In other words, it doesn't matter if my life were to get better in the future or not; I should kill myself now to prevent further suffering

 

[Arcitect]

I know I'll never be happy nor will I ever find love nor will I achieve my goals.

 

[ropearoundatree]

That I was born in the wrong place.
Or, a quotation... "I was born alive. Isn't that punishment enough?"
--Mary Hendrickson, at her trial for patricide
(Now that I have gone to double-check the quote, which was from a book by Clive Barker, I am uncertain if it was written by him?)

 

[hermestrimegistus]

My main argument is that I make life financially emotionally and mentally harder for those around me. Objectively, I am better off dead. If I wasn't around, things would be much better for those that know me. I wish I wasnt like this but I am nothing but a burden

 

[Pidgeons_Sparrows]

i dont feel like the few positive moments in life are worth the mountains of suffering

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

There are many . The unbearable pain and suffering that is possible is so bad that nothing they repeatedly tell you is so good is worth that kind of extreme torture.

is that clickbait youtube video, watching a dumb sunset , eating a sandwich worth the worst torture imaginable? Every sentient animal including a human is under threat of extreme pain for no objective reason .

 

[Lookoutbelow]

I don't think this is philosophical but here goes nothing.

Firstly, I'm assuming that, after death, there is non existence and no afterlife. In other words, we do not have the sentience to comprehend or visualise or interact with anything. It's completely dark but you don't know that as there is no "you" anymore

Now then, when I consider my reasons for suicide, I look at how death would actually impact me relative to me existing right now. If I died right now, my suffering would end and, relative to my current state, I'd be more at peace even if I can't comprehend said peace.

Additionally, and this is really important, for those who say that I get a better chance of a better life if I continue living, I say that, if I do kill myself right now, there would be no future for me as I do not exist and even if I were to hypothetically get better were I to continue on living, it wouldn't matter to me as I'd be dead and hence I can't feel regret or any feeling. Sure, I may miss out on happiness if I'm dead but, simultaneously, I'd also not be able to comprehend that so I can't really feel depressed over this if I'm dead.

In other words, it doesn't matter if my life were to get better in the future or not; I should kill myself now to prevent further suffering

Nice. Me likey what you said. I found your argument to be quite insightful.

 

[Kundalini Guy]

Life is inherently suffering especially if you're suffering from a condition. Life is also not fair some are suffering hellish life's while others are so happy with minor problems.

 

[MeltingBrain]

Furthermore, I also think that the Void, the Nothing, call it what you want, is the essence of all things. I want to go towards Nothing and find the essence by myself.

That's @FuneralCry .

 

[Teleftaía Anapnoí]

That's @FuneralCry .

I think that @FuneralCry would like Cioran Writtings. My philosophy of nothingness was formed by him

 

[ringo99]

Nothing philosophical about my reasons. Mine are simply financial and health related. I've exhausted my ability to learn and update myself to stay relevant in my chosen field. I live in a third world country where jumping jobs is infinitely riskier than in the first world since government support here is virtually zero. Having considerable debt to pay off a house my parents and I bought. The insurance from my death would take care of it and guarantee my parents a measure of financial stability.

 

[Anónimo]

The suffering in life outweighs the good times. You work like 8 or 9 hours a day feeling miserable, full of insecurities, having memory issues, bad social skills and a cringy, painful past. I don't think it's worth it. Maybe if I had better genetics I would give life a chance, but nope, I don't think any amount of money would change my mind, at most it will postpone the outcome by a few years

 

[WeDontKnowTheFuture]

If i weight the amount of joy and suffering.
I had 23% good and 77 % of suffering as a child.
Early teenage it was 90% of suffering for 10% of joy. Late teenage and
As a young adult it was 95/5%.
At 22years, It recently turned to 99%suffering for 1% good. So there is no point anymore. It is constant torture.
In a philosophical view, my main argument is based on my statistic, how a life wich is essentialy suffering could worthwile ?
If think that if you're able to create
art from your tourment it could worthwile as you can create meaning from your suffering but othewise it is pointless.

 

[ChangeWaiter]

My main argument is that I make life financially emotionally and mentally harder for those around me. Objectively, I am better off dead. If I wasn't around, things would be much better for those that know me. I wish I wasnt like this but I am nothing but a burden

I'm also a big burden on my mom and it's killing me from inside everyday.

 

[inanotherlife]

if one cannot control their own life
is it really theirs?

 

[donehere24]

Its my life, not someone else's. I get to decide what I want to do with it because I have free will, even if that is death. Other people may look into my life and see shared experiences but they will never fully understand the effects they have on me specifically. Therefore others don't have a right to have opinions about whether or not I should ctb. Also in general I don't think that life=good and death=bad is true, I think both are neutral and can change depending on the life circumstances of each person. In my case death is just not that bad in comparison to life.

 

[ssadbrownie]

My main argument is that we have made the world unsustainable for human life and, unfortunately, for other species as well. This kind of thing sucks. Furthermore, I also think that the Void, the Nothing, call it what you want, is the essence of all things. I want to go towards Nothing and find the essence by myself.

Futilitarianism

My main argument is that we have made the world unsustainable for human life and, unfortunately, for other species as well. This kind of thing sucks. Furthermore, I also think that the Void, the Nothing, call it what you want, is the essence of all things. I want to go towards Nothing and find the essence by myself.

Utilitarianism.. staying alive would cause me more suffering than pleasure

 

[Forever Sleep]

I don't like life enough to want to keep going with it. I don't want to put in the effort to change or make myself think a different way because that is what is expected of me. I find it weird that preference is rarely taken into consideration. We don't do it with other things... 'You don't like vanilla icecream? That's abnormal- you need to put more effort into liking it. And if you still don't like it after that- tough- you're still going to have to eat it- or we'll forcefeed it to you.'

Plus- life isn't about always doing what you want to do. So much of it is about earning money and doing dull domestic crap. There are always going to be long lists of unpleasant things we don't want to do. Most of us can't live on our own terms. Why should I always have to compromise?

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Every human and other sentient animal is under constant threat of extreme torture.

There are thousands of horrible things that can happen to a human or other sentient animal.

There are thousands of diseases , disabilities, parasites , molds, ticks, Bacteria etc that can attack a human any day.

Millions of children and people disappear every year many of which could be in basements being tortured.

Accidents like car accidents can cause brain damage or disability.

40% lifetime chance of cancer , 25% of stroke . That's just 2 hells

A lot of people can become homeless and starve.

Life is very dangerous and harmful and always has been.

Isn't it strange that practically no one talks about all of these horrible things that can happen to any human any day? No one can guarantee that today I nor anyone will not have something horrible happen to them.

2. there is no objective reason to live. Life is meaningless there is much less a reason to live to be under threat of torture.

3.then you have to work all day just to exist in this meaningless harmful existence for no objective reason.
4.
Life is a harmful dangerous imposition

5.they made assisted suicide and nembutal crimes making the dangerous imposition also a prison u can't escape
6. After death is non-existence forever which is the only way to guarantee nothing bad will happen to me no pain no torture no suffering no problems no extreme pain ever.
7. After death I'm out from under the threat of extreme torture. But while alive I'm always under the threat of extreme torture. Yet they have 99% of people believing that being alive is a beautiful gift and that non-existence is the worst thing ever. To me non-existence forever is the ultimate bliss. Life is prison slavery torture an imposition a curse

This is just the start there is much more

 

[LonelyStarrySky]

I own my own body, therefore I have the autonomy over what happens with it, including having a choice in when and how I am going to die. It gives me control over death itself and I can die on my own terms.

 

[plan c]

Not everyone believe in after-life so maybe nihilism?
Oh I'm no good at this. My philosophy coursework sucks there's tons of reading to do.

 

[todeswunsch]

Its a simple calculation:
Life Pleasure - Life Suffering < 0
Therefore being alive is bad and non-existing is preferable.
I want to return to the void I was as before birth.
Nothing and Everything at the same time, the unexperienceable chaos.
May the Goddess receive us in her arms

 

[FuneralCry]

In my case I very strongly believe that once we die we simply cease existing and that is it for us, we are gone, so to me it only feels rational wishing to die on my own terms. All that humans are doing is waiting to die anyway so I'd prefer to take control over when that is to avoid all future unnecessary suffering.

I see existence as a harmful imposistion that we were so cruelly burdened with, I don't see any value to delaying the inevitable as much as possible in this existence there was never a need for in the first place.
One cannot suffer from not existing yet there is no limit as to how much one can suffer in this hellish reality, so to me only not existing is desirable.
I find it such a horrific tragedy how life even existed at all, I see life as nothing more than a virus ultimately responsible for all pain and suffering so to me existence itself is the true problem that is best avoided no matter what.