What is the difference between dying at 18 and dying at 75? if you don't believe in afterlife.

[Türkoo35]

Hello my name is Ali I'am from Turkey. I'am studying for university exam (YKS-TYT/AYT) I'm tired of my father,country,physical appereance.. I'm tired of my life in a nutshell.


What is the difference between dying at 18 and dying at 75? if you don't believe in afterlife. I am waiting for your ideas.

 

[sadgirl2002]

I don't think there is much difference other than if you die at 75, you've probably been through even more pain in life.

 

[one4all]

I can't really answer that question. I do not know your life or what you might experience in it.
I'm must likely older then you and have dealt with a lot of shit in my life. But i've also had so very good times and memories. I'm still here for some fucked up reason which i will never understand. I should have been gone awhile ago.
I guess the bottom line would be.. you die earlier with no chance of possibly turning things around.

 

[Una Nancy]

Is there a difference between dying younger and dying older if you believe in the afterlife?
I'm just curious since I don't know many things about religion, but it's something that interests me sometimes

 

[terry_a_davis]

Hello my name is Ali I'am from Turkey. I'am studying for university exam (YKS-TYT/AYT) I'm tired of my father,country,physical appereance.. I'm tired of my life in a nutshell.


What is the difference between dying at 18 and dying at 75? if you don't believe in afterlife. I am waiting for your ideas.

You could miss out on good things in life or you could stop yourself suffering for years, all depends on how your life turns out. What are you studying? Does it give you a chance of a career you may like? Do you exercise at all, this can improve your confidence and appearance?

 

[Türkoo35]

You could miss out on good things in life or you could stop yourself suffering for years, all depends on how your life turns out. What are you studying? Does it give you a chance of a career you may like? Do you exercise at all, this can improve your confidence and appearance?

I am studying for highschool lessons :
Turkish
Math
Chemie,physics,biology....

if i get good points on university exam ı can choose a profession. Yes I have a career chance. my body is not bad but my face is bad :(


Sorry for my bad English.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

You could take both positions:

1) that dying can be a bad thing for the one who dies
2) that dying can't be a bad thing for the one who dies, because there is no one to suffer the state of 'being dead'

I would take the latter view. If you died painlessly in your sleep, you wouldn't be harmed, no matter your age. But I don't think we can extrapolate from this that killing people in their sleep is morally justifiable.

What is the difference between dying at 18 and dying at 75? if you don't believe in afterlife. I am waiting for your ideas.

To you, there really wouldn't be a difference, since you wouldn't be around to notice a difference anymore.

To others who knew you - yes, to them it would make a difference (either positive or negative).

 

[terry_a_davis]

I am studying for highschool lessons :
Turkish
Math
Chemie,physics,biology....

if i get good points on university exam ı can choose a profession. Yes I have a career chance. my body is not bad but my face is bad :(


Sorry for my bad English.

Your english is fine. It sounds like there might be some promise in your future if you have a chance of a profession.
Your face can't easily be changed but your body can be changed by exercising.
I would guess a man with a profession, a nice personality, and a fit body would be attractive to some females

 

[NonDefaultOption]

I'm almost 40, and I think I got the answer, but the answer is never one-sided.

If you don't want to grow and learn from life, it doesn't really make much of a difference whether you die at 17 or 75. Sure you'll grow a bit anyways but not enough to find a better life if you don't seek it. The more effort you put to making your life better, the more pain you'll face, unless you're smart about it = find yourself and be yourself beneath all that conditioning and all the other bs. Running from pain and resisting it will make you fail and progress stops, you gotta face it head-on at some point. Sometimes it's too hard and that's when you need to run from it, if you wanna stay above the water.

And pain's not really important, but what the pain and other senses are telling you about yourself and about the world.

We all have different extent of challenges, and we're defined by how we tackle them. If life is a fight and you don't wanna be in the ring, you can quit, but there's no guarentee you'll be let back into the ring again. And the fight's never over until you die, not the fight inside you. Outside you, sure, they can lock you up and do anything, but inside you, no.

These days we have the internet and all kinds of knowledge accessible to us. It may be hard to trust a lot of it, but experience and honing your senses will be your best guides when searching for your personal salvation. Anybody can finance and control any info with the money and power if they really want to, but your own experience will never lie, it can only be misinterpreted, and often is too. You gotta have the bravery to test things yourself if you want to actually find your things, things that make you feel like life's worth living, and stick to them for more than just one time and put some effort in them so you see them in their true form instead of a shallow reflection of what they really are.

At least, that's how things worked for me.

 

[tothemoon]

Well, 75 year olds tend to handle the idea of dying waaay better. Secondly the affect on those who are still around (not that important but still). Back to point one, suicide successes for those 65 and over are 1 in 4. For those younger it's like 1 in 25. Remember when people ask "Why shouldn't I kill myself", the real question is "why shouldn't I try"? And as we all know, the answer if because you probably won't kill yourself and still be alive.

 

[MoreThanAFeeling]

What is the difference between dying at 18 and dying at 75?

Dying at 18 you throw away 57 years.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

Dying at 18 you throw away 57 years.

Where is he throwing them?

What does he gain by living longer that isn't still nullified by his death?

Will he regret having thrown away those (supposedly) prescious years?

 

[MoreThanAFeeling]

Where is he throwing them?

What does he gain by living longer that isn't still nullified by his death?

Will he regret having thrown away those (supposedly) prescious years?

Each individual has to answer these question for themselves. I definitely can't answer for others.

He asked whats the difference between dying with 18 and 75 and I answered with 57 less years. Thats a fact and not a pro life statement.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

57 years

 

[Underwhelming]

In the end, there isn't. Just the changes in your final moments of perception.

 

[s1mplem3]

Death doesn't have age or appearance, it's a state of emptiness.

 

[Emily123]

You can enjoy your life more in this time

 

[FohPah]

Dying at 18 means you're ruling out opportunities to reach a point where you can look back and think "I'm glad I changed my mind about dying."

Dying at 75 means you're missing opportunities to spare yourself from future years of looking back and thinking "There's no reason I should have lived this long."

 

[a.n.kirillov]

You can enjoy your life more in this time

But he also cannot lose out on anything when he's dead.

 

[Disintegration]

Enter covert pro-life statement here....

 

[Partial-Elf]

I'm almost 40, and I think I got the answer, but the answer is never one-sided.

If you don't want to grow and learn from life, it doesn't really make much of a difference whether you die at 17 or 75. Sure you'll grow a bit anyways but not enough to find a better life if you don't seek it. The more effort you put to making your life better, the more pain you'll face, unless you're smart about it = find yourself and be yourself beneath all that conditioning and all the other bs. Running from pain and resisting it will make you fail and progress stops, you gotta face it head-on at some point. Sometimes it's too hard and that's when you need to run from it, if you wanna stay above the water.

And pain's not really important, but what the pain and other senses are telling you about yourself and about the world.

We all have different extent of challenges, and we're defined by how we tackle them. If life is a fight and you don't wanna be in the ring, you can quit, but there's no guarentee you'll be let back into the ring again. And the fight's never over until you die, not the fight inside you. Outside you, sure, they can lock you up and do anything, but inside you, no.

These days we have the internet and all kinds of knowledge accessible to us. It may be hard to trust a lot of it, but experience and honing your senses will be your best guides when searching for your personal salvation. Anybody can finance and control any info with the money and power if they really want to, but your own experience will never lie, it can only be misinterpreted, and often is too. You gotta have the bravery to test things yourself if you want to actually find your things, things that make you feel like life's worth living, and stick to them for more than just one time and put some effort in them so you see them in their true form instead of a shallow reflection of what they really are.

At least, that's how things worked for me.

Wow, incredible post here. Many of my problems come from being unwilling or unable to buckle down and fight hard at the right time. The misinterpretation of experience has been another one that's gotten me time and time again.

Sort of a separate topic but I constantly wonder: given that life is a long game of suffering, fighting, and loss, what motivates people to have children? I know many pregnancies are unplanned (about half), but those who are planned-wtf? Why create a person and force them to go through this?

 

[a.n.kirillov]

Sort of a separate topic but I constantly wonder: given that life is a long game of suffering, fighting, and loss, what motivates people to have children? I know many pregnancies are unplanned (about half), but those who are planned-wtf? Why create a person and force them to go through this?

Peer pressure, cultural pressure, social status, loneliness and boredom, delusions, religious delusions, self-aggrandizement, financial benefits just to name a few.

Some people have had above average lives and cannot understand that life can be torturous, they imagine their future child exclusively as a healthy kid or a successful adult, not as a depressed, homeless, ugly, deformed, sick, old, demented, tortured, ripped-to-pieces by shrapnel in WW3 starving person.

 

[TAW122]

Others have given good answers and as for me, it's just avoiding all the unnecessary (potential and very likely) events of pain and suffering at the cost of missing (potentially and less likely) events of pleasure and happiness. Objectively speaking, yes, if we just look at facts and things in a non-subjective way, then I would be avoiding 46 years of life, which is mostly full of suffering with little periods of respite and then usual numbness. Most people in this world (not on here but normies (NPCs) and others) are rather not self-introspective and lack critical thinking or skepticism when it comes to the question of the existence, it just never crosses their minds and it makes them uncomfortable as it goes against their programming (indoctrination by society, religion, and government as well as their fellow peers.).

Death itself is inevitable for all of us, it is simply just a matter of when, where, and how. With CTB, for me and probably others too, is the fact I am able to decide when, where, and how (in what manner, method) I am able to reach the permanent state of rest, which is death.

 

[Antibody246]

But he also cannot lose out on anything when he's dead.

There will be more suffering dying at 75 due to the deterioration of the physical body

 

[a.n.kirillov]

There will be more suffering dying at 75 due to the deterioration of the physical body

Also a good point

 

[Mr. ‘K so?]

Hello my name is Ali I'am from Turkey. I'am studying for university exam (YKS-TYT/AYT) I'm tired of my father,country,physical appereance.. I'm tired of my life in a nutshell.


What is the difference between dying at 18 and dying at 75? if you don't believe in afterlife. I am waiting for your ideas.

One is 18 and the other is an old person. There's no bar or number, once reached, gives you a gold ticket to die.
This is gonna come out wrong, but the Syrian civil war and the refugees moving through turkey made sure to show there's no difference in age, sex or creed

 

[departing]

If I make it to 75, the amount of hell that I've experienced will be great magnified. Each day is another day that could have been spent on ctb.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

If I make it to 75, the amount of hell that I've experienced will be great magnified. Each day is another day that could have been spent on ctb.

As Cioran, as much as I dislike him, rightfully said, you always kill yourself too late.

 

[departing]

As Cioran, as much as I dislike him, rightfully said, you always kill yourself too late.

^True.

 

[Thebuddhacel]

Tbh 18 is too much young, wait some more years your life can change.