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Almost everyone talks about logic but not many actually realizes how it works. Turning formal logical conclusions into constructs like "opinions" or "philosophies" is misleading because pure logic needs only itself and the proposition/axiom. On a higher descriptive level, the direct next one would be mathematics (specially mathematical logic and formal languages) then one would link those to physics, chemistry, biology and the rest.

So what you need first is to assume something or put a proposition/axiom. Large axioms tend to be faulty and full of holes and contradictions (like what humans argue about daily because almost every side has contradictions), on the other hand, smaller axioms are easier to check and accept which is usually mathematical and even logic itself (arithmetic and logical operations are simple and the mind can accept them without proofs).

The propositions or what you believe and assume its true is what you build on your conclusions. If you have no contradictions, then this means the logic is consistent but that doesn't mean the proposition is proven to be true. To prove the proposition, one would make it of smaller size and the process is endless but if its acceptable by mind like arithmetic, its not necessary to make it anymore (although some try to go deeper like Peano axioms for arithmetics).

Sometimes two logics are consistent while the proposition is different. In these types, its better to avoid arguments, discussions or anything because its useless. Unless one assumes (temporarily) the other proposition and find a new hole and contradictions within it.

So what I said is abstract, however, can be easily applied to anything.

If we talk about life, humans are bound to contradictions and one of the many reasons is natural languages that are inherently ambiguous and full of human constructs. Many humans will avoid logic because it causes cognitive dissonance because of the endless contradictions one can think about. Some other humans would try to use logic and struggle against the biology. However, while its true that its more logical than the absurd ones who neglect logic, its still based on being a human. You define suffering for example and assume its bad. You have emotions and think hurting each other and living in a bad world is wrong. This logic com from you as a human being. Although its not absurd but its not complete because humans are limited.

On the other hand, absurd people don't use their mind for logical processing and let them be controlled by biological logic. Some might use their mind and in some cases have small consistent logic with bad propositions.

Now its clear how one can use logic and how one can be used, both are humans, the humans that use their minds or those who follow their body and biological programming and countless ideologies that support it.

Now, if we look at the whole thing (universe, world, life) and the complete logic. It would be explanatory for everything. Because there is cause and effect. It wouldn't suggest anything or any path. Regardless of the free will problem (both sides can be explained by whole logic), whatever one would do, its explainable if and only if its possible.

So now we know how logic operates. What does it say about suicide? Before that, we are capable to find contradictions and prove the inherent problems of life (in many cases, only by counterexamples) but this does not tell us what to do. Regardless of free will, its your choice to act based on the fact that life is shitty and have inherent problems. The universal logic can explain your choice and your actions. But the human logic is different, some people are still not having enough clarity (although nothingness is free of contradictions) and others while having consistent logic, they are not ending their life. On the other hand, some people who don't follow this logic at all, end their lives. Logic is a part but your choice and your actions are the rest. So actually logic is pro-choice. It'll expose everything but the action and choice is yours. The same can be applied to anything like antinatalism.

One might say but how if we expose life some people continue? As we said, the action and choices are yours. You can know everything but choose what we call "dirty" or "evil". Or you can be "good". You can't separate your human nature, you refuse to make others suffer because you feel. While you refuse to make others suffer or bring new people to miserable life, there are people who know everything and are dirty and would deliberately make other people suffer. Its all about choices here.
There are the absurd and the not knowledgeable which doesn't follow the logic and would only follow their programming. Usually many are delusional because without proper logical thinking, any false thing can be true to them.


While we as humans think and act based on our feelings or needs or generally our biology. The universal logic explains why everything happened. It can explain why many humans are absurd. It can explain crimes, wars and everything happening in life and not limited to negative stuff. Usually explanations are cleared in biology and biochemistry.

So what does this mean. It means that humans under certain circumstances can do certain results. While we put constructs like "good" and "bad", "criminal" or "hero". This all happens because of certain reasons that led those humans to become like this. (this is not defending crimes or anything but just showing how the reality is). Humans won't accept it because it shows that a version of themselves were put into wrong circumstances and made bad stuff. They'll attack one person as bad for example instead of understanding the whole phenomena (not defending the bad but to prevent it one must know the real reason).
For example, many people who were prisoners say that not everyone were equally bad, its like every other human society and actually many are victims. So why not to understand the core problems?
Having everything explained make laws shaky because instead of just labeling people into good/bad, innocent/guilty then punish them and repeat the process endlessly, everyone would start to think about the causes and try to prevent it.

This is only one aspect of life but if we view it like this, we could see the reasons. For example, many people would see the inherent problems of life instead of scapegoating someone and continuing life like nothing happened.

Tl;dr
Logic is pro-choice. Logic can change how you view the world and life instead of constructs and delusions.
 
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