Discussion What if we dont find peace?

[Raven2]

So this has been playing on my mind recently, what if we dont actually find peace after death?

I think I believe there is an afterlife but I kinda hope there is nothing after this world, I dont like the thought of living in heaven/hell for an eternity.

Could it be that our worldly regrets and troubles follow us in the next realm and we dont find the peace we seek? We all wish each other peace on goodbye threads but we dont know where, if anywhere, were going.

This troubles me greatly going into the unknown and that fear keeps me here, existing for the time being.

I've watched various accounts of NDE's with heaven and hell and it hasnt brought me any comfort in fact I think it's just made me feel worse, the possibility that's theres more out there.

What are your thoughts?

 

[lizzywizzy09]

I don't think you have to worry about it. I think it's just like before we were born.

 

[Agon321]

In my opinion, people who say that peace awaits them after death are optimists ;).
If life is hard, why should it change after our biological body dies?

The best option for such people is nothingness.
Nothingness is a bit unconvincing and scary to me, so I push it out of my consciousness.
I also do not believe in heaven where "good" people go and hell where "evil" people go. This is a naive concept for me.

Overall, I don't believe in anything at the moment.
But if we still have some form of consciousness after death, I don't think we can count on complete peace.
Maybe we'll be reincarnated or something like that? Maybe other worlds? Who knows.

I certainly don't believe that after death there will be a paradise in which I will be happy.
This is a naive dream.

The plus and minus of this situation is that sooner or later we will all find out what awaits us after death ;).

 

[Rational man]

I think we need to understand the term 'peace' , because it is a little subjective to whoever searches and experiences this state of mind. We all die eventually, so whatever awaits us is going to happen regardless. From my view, im not sure if we continue in some concious spiritual existence when we die, but I do understand that we are the product of nature and therefore, I believe that my body will return to nature and my carbon and elements will be nutrients for Mother Earth. This understanding has helped me to deal with many fears during my incurable illness. So maybe i have a kind of Buddhist approach to life, karma being the central understanding that we evolve and like nature, we are recycled in some form. I hope you find answers to this interesting subject.

 

[Raven2]

I don't think you have to worry about it. I think it's just like before we were born.

that's what I hope

 

[Coconut blue]

I don't think you have to worry about it. I think it's just like before we were born.

Or like when we're asleep but no dreams

 

[derpyderpins]

To me the shitty thing is that we won't get to feel peace assuming there's no afterlife. All this struggle and fatigue and anxiety. . . I'd like to know what truly being at peace feels like. Instead, there will just be nothing.

 

[Raven2]

In my opinion, people who say that peace awaits them after death are optimists ;).
If life is hard, why should it change after our biological body dies?

I tend to agree with these points.

 

[FuneralCry]

Anything like that is completely fictional to me, I believe death to simply be the absence of everything, I believe that when one dies they simply lose consciousness and that is it for them, they are unaware for all eternity. Death is peace that cannot be found in this hellish reality filled with endless suffering and cruelty, all I wish for is the peace that only eternal non-existence can bring.

 

[UmbraDweller]

I would say the best thing to do is to let go of it and realize that worrying about something we can't control is pointless. Just let things happen. Wherever we end up after death is unavoidable no matter how we die. Nobody even chose to get born. Accept that anything can happen same as the fact that sky is blue and you will be at more peace.

I believe that things like heaven and hell specificaly are big bs fairytales created by the powerful, to force people into some specific lifestyle, using hell as intimidation tool. It most likely doesn't exist. How can you even experience suffering in hell as portrayed by religions when your body already died. There's no pain without body's receptors.

Nature doesn't differentiate between causes of deaths. It doesn't even know the concept of right and wong. Morality is a made up ideology created by society which constantly changes, applicable merely within the human realm. Nature can't judge how good of a person someone was to send them to some special place after death. So I believe whatever comes after death is exactly the same for everyone.

 

[F Sea]

Hello.
Due to paranormal encounters I am forced to believe in the afterlife. Sometimes they have helped me and sometimes they have scared me. I will continue to try my best and highly recommend you do just in case (believe it or not).

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Death is inevitable and, in the end, you will have to die regardless so you may as well believe in something that would make you the most at ease. In the end, there isn't really a single theory as for what happens after death that is fully substantial; imo, the best we can conclude right now is that after death is just permanent non existence due to sentience being related to the brain and the brain being non functional a few minutes after death. However, of course you're free to believe in whatever you want.

I believe that after death is just non existence because it seems to be the most logical conclusion and yet also the most peaceful scenario. Of course it's really hard to actually wrap your head around non existence and how that can be peaceful for us as.. there wouldn't even be an us anymore but I just find the absence of suffering to be peaceful relative to my life. It isn't peaceful in itself as that's impossible but it's peaceful when comparing it to my current life. This is just what I believe though and, like I said, you should just believe in whatever gives you the most peace

 

[LaughingGoat]

Have you met anyone who didn't find peace after death?

 

[cait_sith]

Nothingness after death is the only thing that makes sense to me. You can't just create humans with a shitty brain like me and then punish me additionally for wanting my shitty brains to stop torturing me.

 

[divinemistress36]

I would say the best thing to do is to let go of it and realize that worrying about something we can't control is pointless. Just let things happen. Wherever we end up after death is unavoidable no matter how we die. Nobody even chose to get born. Accept that anything can happen same as the fact that sky is blue and you will be at more peace.

I believe that things like heaven and hell specificaly are big bs fairytales created by the powerful, to force people into some specific lifestyle, using hell as intimidation tool. It most likely doesn't exist. How can you even experience suffering in hell as portrayed by religions when your body already died. There's no pain without body's receptors.

Nature doesn't differentiate between causes of deaths. It doesn't even know the concept of right and wong. Morality is a made up ideology created by society which constantly changes, applicable merely within the human realm. Nature can't judge how good of a person someone was to send them to some special place after death. So I believe whatever comes after death is exactly the same for everyone.

I think so to. Im sure Hitler went to the same place as everyone else after death

 

[4everHeartBroken]

I don't think you have to worry about it. I think it's just like before we were born.

That's what terrifies me. Where / Who were we before we were born?

 

[R_N]

Maybe there is no peace to be found until we accept everything as it is.

 

[Placo]

That's what terrifies me. Where / Who were we before we were born?

We simply weren't there, for me there is nothing to fear.

 

[4everHeartBroken]

Maybe there is no peace to be found until we accept everything as it is.

Interesting answer!

 

[msesis]

To me, peace is simply the cessation of all of *this*. The end of this. The end of all of this. I don't know what's after (probably nothing), but the pain should stop

 

[4everHeartBroken]

We simply weren't there, for me there is nothing to fear.

"We simply weren't there". Love that.
That's more comforting than anything.

This question is going to sound a bit off, but… "Where do babies come from?" But seriously, when I see a baby I often wonder, "If I'm dying, then why is this baby just coming into existence?" Why is new consciousness constantly still coming into existence? I just want to be SURE I'm not going to be born all over again!

 

[Vivir_O_No]

What are gonna feel if we won't have nervous systems?

 

[Placo]

"We simply weren't there". Love that.
That's more comforting than anything.

This question is going to sound a bit off, but… "Where do babies come from?" But seriously, when I see a baby I often wonder, "If I'm dying, then why is this baby just coming into existence?" Why is new consciousness constantly still coming into existence? I just want to be SURE I'm not going to be born all over again!

So you are afraid of being reincarnated as a newborn child, in my opinion it is not to be feared because even if it were you would not remember anything.

 

[4everHeartBroken]

So you are afraid of being reincarnated as a newborn child, in my opinion it is not to be feared because even if it were you would not remember anything.

I'm afraid of being reborn in a 3rd World Country or just being born into an even worse life in general. I've been thinking about this lately and it really scares the hell outta me!

 

[Placo]

I'm afraid of being reborn in a 3rd World Country or just being born into an even worse life in general. I've been thinking about this lately and it really scares the hell outta me!

I understand your concerns but I cannot share them, even if this were to happen it wouldn't be you, it would perhaps be a third world child with a vision of the world similar to yours, in any case the CTB would still be there to free you if you want it.

 

[sugarb]

So this has been playing on my mind recently, what if we dont actually find peace after death?

I think I believe there is an afterlife but I kinda hope there is nothing after this world, I dont like the thought of living in heaven/hell for an eternity.

Could it be that our worldly regrets and troubles follow us in the next realm and we dont find the peace we seek? We all wish each other peace on goodbye threads but we dont know where, if anywhere, were going.

This troubles me greatly going into the unknown and that fear keeps me here, existing for the time being.

I've watched various accounts of NDE's with heaven and hell and it hasnt brought me any comfort in fact I think it's just made me feel worse, the possibility that's theres more out there.

What are your thoughts?

Everything people say about what happens after death is guesswork, and I'm like 60% sure nothing is real. All I know for sure is that the reality I perceive isn't to my liking and that doing something different (CTB) could potentially bring me somewhere better.

Living longer could potentially do the same thing, but for the last 18-something years it hasn't. I haven't tried dying yet and I'm going to die anyway, so why prolong my stay somewhere I know for sure I'm unhappy?

That's my logical justification, at least. I mostly have a strong but baseless feeling that something good will come after.