Discussion What if the life you desire is only a suicide away?

[TheGoodGuy]

I am an atheist and mostly believe when we die we just seize to exist but what if the life we desire the most is only a suicide/death away? Imagine if we don´t get the courage to ctb until 10 years from now and all along a life in "paradise" would only have been a suicide away and a pull of a trigger in my in my case.

My desired life after killing myself would be to wake up as a child again since my childhood was paradise/heaven on Earth or to be reincarnated into a healthy normal functioning body both in body and in mind, to be extremely good looking with strong genes, multi millionaire and 100% of living a happy long life like thousands of good looking healthy millionaires experience out in the real world already.

I am not here to dicuss with atheist about why this is bullshit because I know that mentality myself I am just saying..
"try and imagine if this was actually true and all it would take is to pull that trigger or take that leap of faith instead of being tortured in this hell of an existence for decades to come"

To use the examples of heaven and hell imagine if heaven and hell is an analogy of Earth, and us people who have been so unfortunate to suffer from physical and/or mental illnesses are paying out due in hell at the moment and the ONLY thing we would have to do to get into "heaven" is to die so we could have our time in heaven on Earth under the right conditions.

 

[discokicks]

Well man my paradise is a bit unusual but hey it's a sucide site. I want to have unlimited cash and be thrust into 1976 New York with a great body and so I can go to the hottest discos and have the time of my life. And see my family once they pass. But yeah I believe it's probably just darkness. I "died" of a heroin OD and I don't remember it. I woke in the hospital being revived. It was nothing.

 

[Ivenocare]

I have been agnostic my whole life; then a nihilist; but the closer I have gotten to death the more I have thought of it; I felt something when hanging partial my 4th attempt; but felt nothing on my last 2... Even after feeling and seeing something I still find it hard to believe in anything; which makes me feel spoiled and stupid; it is just hard to trust my mind.

 

[RedDEE]

This is something I find myself day-dreaming a lot about. A perfect life to me would mean being born the gender I want to be, and having one sibling the same age as me, and two perfect parents. Nothing bad would ever happen, and I would be completely ignorant to the fact that anything bad ever happened (to me in my previous life) or ever could happen. I would never have any anxiety, and every time I cried it would be a blissful cry.

I also imagine a garden-in-eden type of fantasy, where I'm all alone with a perfect lover. I had a drug-trip once, where I experienced perfect love, and it felt like I was in the garden of eden. So I imagine it would be just a prolonged feeling of intense love all the time.

I dunno, after-death everything is probably just nothing-ness, I don't see how it could be as good as the perfect life. I guess that's why we don't live perfect lives, I guess it's the balancing factor of life and death. And I don't think we get re-born into perfect lives, because if we were going to have a perfect life, THIS life would have been it. In life we have ups that include great bliss, and lows that include great torment. But after death, if it is just nothing, then it would be completely neutral, not good or bad. I find that to be super-sad, and a hard to accept truth. But yet still comforting. In death, you can't experience the bliss and happiness of love, but at least you can't experience love-scorned.

But yeah I believe it's probably just darkness. I "died" of a heroin OD and I don't remember it. I woke in the hospital being revived. It was nothing.

That's whats funny about death. You died, but came back, thus you couldn't remember what happened. But in real death, you don't come back, it's a permanent and prolonged never-ending nothingness. You can't ever come back and remember it, cause if you come back, it's not death anymore. It's the scariest, thus comforting, puzzling mind fuck you can ever think about.

 

[Fadingfast]

I am an atheist and mostly believe when we die we just seize to exist but what if the life we desire the most is only a suicide/death away? Imagine if we don´t get the courage to ctb until 10 years from now and all along a life in "paradise" would only have been a suicide away and a pull of a trigger in my in my case.

My desired life after killing myself would be to wake up as a child again since my childhood was paradise/heaven on Earth or to be reincarnated into a healthy normal functioning body both in body and in mind, to be extremely good looking with strong genes, multi millionaire and 100% of living a happy long life like thousands of good looking healthy millionaires experience out in the real world already.

I am not here to dicuss with atheist about why this is bullshit because I know that mentality myself I am just saying..
"try and imagine if this was actually true and all it would take is to pull that trigger or take that leap of faith instead of being tortured in this hell of an existence for decades to come"

To use the examples of heaven and hell imagine if heaven and hell is an analogy of Earth, and us people who have been so unfortunate to suffer from physical and/or mental illnesses are paying out due in hell at the moment and the ONLY thing we would have to do to get into "heaven" is to die so we could have our time in heaven on Earth under the right conditions.

I like the thought paying my dues with schizophrenia ans bipolar. Thank you.

 

[Escaper Boy]

If I am 100% sure the "paradise" is waiting beyond death, I don't know if that will motivate me enough to immediately jump to the river and drowned. The process of dying is still a scary thing. Maybe because my mind always associates death with something "grim" instead of something "brighter".

 

[An hero of our time]

I don't believe in paradise, but i do believe in "afterlife". I think even concept of paradise is more foolish than concept of afterlife, you can't enjoy things for eternity. And even if you got million $ with 5 tons of heroin and all most decadent things you can think of i can hardly call it paradise. I'd be bored at some point, and boredom is a torment.

"Life in paradise" is a non-sense. Life is a constant struggle for something to enjoy (if your survival isn't in danger, then it's just fight for chance to continue your life).
Life has its ups and downs, it sometimes painful and sometimes fulfilling. I can't even imagine life without any of it. Overcoming all hardships and preserving (or claiming) what you (want to) hold dear - this is game of life.

I put "afterlife" in qoutes because i don't really believe it will be afterlife, but rather different life. Frankly, i just can't see a reason why it's not there. I'm not christian, so i don't think there's some "soul" detaching from your body after you're dead, but should it even be there? If human body is nothing but a meatbag and there's absolute nothingness after you dead - well, it means that there's no-thing to fear in death. If we're not just walking stardust and there's something after we "die" - well, it means that death is nothing but a change of state, and life continues. And if it continues in some way, you gotta continue struggle in some way.

Quite upbeat philosophy (if i can say so) for someone from suicide site? Yeah, you got me. If you engaged in struggle it means there's possibility you can lose it. I've lost mine. There's no thing left for me in present or future for which i would tolerate pain or with which i could fullfil myself. It's all in my past now, never to return. Meaning is lost, and so is reason to fight.

I'll throw myself in bus to see if i can get my tickets to past out of this grim guy holding steering wheel. That's why i wanna do it less painful as possible. If he'd say "where we driving at, pal?" i need to focus on desired destination, with pain as unwanted distraction. If only stop is nothingness, then it's just nice to go smooth. Effort to minimise struggle is kind of struggle itself.

I don't know if there's even small chance if it makes sense and i'm not completely nuts. Someone pass me whiskey.

 

[Soul]

I love the concept that once we die we're welcomed to a different state by glad and loving friends more familiar than anyone/anything we've ever known here, all of whom are rejoicing that we finally figured it out. "What took you so long!?"

I have no idea what that different state is - it's too different to imagine, but so deeply familiar that it's just ... Ahh! Yeah 8]

 

[spanishguy22]

A lot of you guys and humans in general attribute humanistic characteristics to the afterlife aka "it will feel great or I will feel pain" but that's just human nature, once you're dead there will be no pain receptors or serotonin currents to give you pleasure.. It's kinda funny people thinking they will feel this way or that way after dying when in reality "feeling" is something you experience in a human body thanks to it's different structures.

 

[Painpleasure]

A lot of you guys and humans in general attribute humanistic characteristics to the afterlife aka "it will feel great or I will feel pain" but that's just human nature, once you're dead there will be no pain receptors or serotonin currents to give you pleasure.. It's kinda funny people thinking they will feel this way or that way after dying when in reality "feeling" is something you experience in a human body thanks to it's different structures.

I agree with you Spanishguy22. The fact that, when dead, I will no longer be burdened with a physical body which is highly susceptible to pain provides me with some degree of comfort that whatever comes next, if anything, is not to be feared whatsoever.

However I fear that this may very well be the last and only "life" I have, regardless of how crappy it may be, I should try make the most of it while I still have the ability to experience consciousness.

 

[JadedGray]

I'd like to think so. It more than likely won't happen (dying and ending up in the perfect afterlife I always dreamed of), but it's all I have left to hope for.