What do you mean by waking up on SN? You lose consciousness and then eventually die.
Acopia
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x~Sophia~x
Always give 100% - unless you’re donating blood.
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Oh ffs!! Do some research! Stop expecting everyone else to give you answers! Stop being so bloody lazy!
SmellyRat
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x~Sophia~x
Always give 100% - unless you’re donating blood.
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You shoudn't
Well yes, we know you shouldn't... but what happens if you do wake up?
*I'm too lazy to do my own research*, so I'm counting on you to know the answer, SmellyRat.
SmellyRat
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TheSomebody
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You break the reality and the universe, space-time and everything else will collapse into a massive black hole
sadworld
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Deleted member 17949
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Hard to give you an answer with a lot of certainty. From what I have heard you tend to just wake up having been sick and not much else happens. I would have concerns about damage to the brain and body since sn does deprive you of oxygen.
Best advice is uh don't fail
Best advice is uh don't fail
Shiv15
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???
One must do research, and this is research. He is asking questions. Instead of the unconstructive comment, you could have guided him to a source that could potentially answer his questions. But saying that he is lazy for asking questions is just plain wrong.
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And @job1315
SN doesn't cause any permanent damage. You either recover or you die. SN doesn't deprive the body of oxygen but the cells. The brain continues to function even at 30% oxygen. So yes, there is NO permanent with SN. You either recover or you die. Here is a link to the more FAQ which is a must read. Please read everything in the link provided. There are many dumbfucks on this website that spread false information.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-faq-storage-recovery-death.29714/
^ read that. Seriously, this is as good as it gets.
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Try to find legit sources or people who can guide you on the path to the good information about SN. One of the best member we have on this forum is @GoodPersonEffed
You can read some of his answers for good info.
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thanks Rikki, what I'm concerned about is not permanent damage, but waking up and having to die in pain or suffocate or something bc you are conscious
Delia
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Huh i've read some stuff in here about such cases, it was recorded in actual news, people who took hours to succomb to SN. If i recall correctly well, it was painful. Unfortunately you will have to do some research on your own cause I as a matter of fact am the big lazy and dont remember in which topic i found that. But just know that if you do wake up you will suffer. Good night!
ah! Heavens! Found it! Or at least something... Well, it's unsure if he didn't wake up, but i guess he didn't have the fonkyest time when he did
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Shiv15
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No problem. I haven't tried SN yet, but from my research: Yeah if you do wake up, it's going to be horrible. You have to call emergency. Call 911 if your in America. It's going to be a pretty horrible experience if you wake up from SN.
Stepheng7287
Faster We Run, And We Die Young
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Oh, I thought your dick just falls off if you wake up on SN. Black hole is cool too though.
A search of the literature yields only
a few reports of cases of nitrite poison-
ing. Most of these are in-individuals,
a few in family groups of two or three.
The clinical picture in all of them is
so much alike that one, seems to be
reading the same case history repeatedly.
Onset of symptoms is dramatically sudden, very soon after eating contaminated food, or from any other source of ingestion. Nausea and vomiting are common, but the characteristic picture is one of cyanosis, particularly of the fingertips, nose, and ears, and the rapid loss of consciousness, frequently leading to death.
Nitrites oxidize the iron component of red blood cells (hemoglobin), rendering them unable to carry oxygen. The resulting condition is called methemoglobinemia, and the lack of oxygen is the reason behind the characteristic pale to bluegray color of the skin. The severity of methemoglobinemia is directly proportional to the percentage of red blood cells affected. The higher the percentage, the more serious the symptoms, and the more blue the patient appears.
I imagine abdominal pain and at least some form of temporary neurological impairment.
Since the mechanism is as similar to how carbon monoxide deprives the cells of oxygen.. the CO2 alarm to signal feelings of undergoing suffocation should not occur no matter, agree?
a few reports of cases of nitrite poison-
ing. Most of these are in-individuals,
a few in family groups of two or three.
The clinical picture in all of them is
so much alike that one, seems to be
reading the same case history repeatedly.
Onset of symptoms is dramatically sudden, very soon after eating contaminated food, or from any other source of ingestion. Nausea and vomiting are common, but the characteristic picture is one of cyanosis, particularly of the fingertips, nose, and ears, and the rapid loss of consciousness, frequently leading to death.
Nitrites oxidize the iron component of red blood cells (hemoglobin), rendering them unable to carry oxygen. The resulting condition is called methemoglobinemia, and the lack of oxygen is the reason behind the characteristic pale to bluegray color of the skin. The severity of methemoglobinemia is directly proportional to the percentage of red blood cells affected. The higher the percentage, the more serious the symptoms, and the more blue the patient appears.
I imagine abdominal pain and at least some form of temporary neurological impairment.
Since the mechanism is as similar to how carbon monoxide deprives the cells of oxygen.. the CO2 alarm to signal feelings of undergoing suffocation should not occur no matter, agree?
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TheSomebody
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but this is what will happen. The reality collapsing would happen if you wake up a second time after drinking the second glass
What is the mechanism of loss of consciousness? Are we sure it's low blood pressure?
Also, am I reading that right that it's impossible to suffocate if one does not build up CO2? Thanks
As per emergency medical services (EMS), the patient sent a text message on her phone detailing the ingestion roughly 30 minutes prior to EMS arrival at the scene. She presented by ambulance to the hospital profoundly cyanotic and unresponsive. This is observed data.
Looking at what happens naturally;
healthy humans, erythrocytes are continually exposed to oxidative stress from natural metabolism [1,7]. The spontaneous formation of MetHb from ferrous Hb is reversed by the protective enzyme systems cytochrome-b5 reductase and nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide phosphate (NADPH) MetHb reductase. These pathways maintain a MetHb level less than 1.5% in normal individuals. The inundation of stress on biological mechanisms that normally defend against oxidation leads to an increase in MetHb levels [1,7].
Levels of MetHb as low as 10%–20% can produce cyanosis, and MetHb levels greater than 30% can result in tachycardia, muscle weakness, nausea, and vomiting [7]. Clinically, MetHb levels greater than 55% can lead to coma, and at levels greater than 70%, there is a high risk of death.
Treatment of methemoglobinemia includes methylene blue, which acts as a cofactor for NADPH MetHb reductase, hastening enzymatic activity and increasing the rate of conversion of MetHb to ferrous Hb.
Hemoglobin does not properly carry the needed oxygen to the cells for them to function. CO2 is not going to build up to set off the panic alarm. Hypoxia and anoxia are allowed to go forth unnoticed, aside from dizziness, headache, confusion, but there should be no hypercapnic alarm such as associated with 'suffocation'.
It is a lack of oxygen...
Shiv15
Student
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So your basically saying that there is a risk of COMA and/or brain damage from a failed SN attempt?
It's a geniuine curiosity I have. Because we still do not know all there is about SN and your input is quite appreciated here.
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SmellyRat
Arcanist
- Nov 5, 2018
- 479
Yeah its the SN that causes low blood pressure.
Thats why PN recommends Propranolol becuz that too causes low blood pressure although 800mg is a ridiculous amount.
I've got propranolol, but not sure on how much to use since it can cause nausea, and could make the attempt backfire.
If i take propranolol with the SN it wont kick in til 1 hour and if i take propranolol 1 hour before i'll probably be too dizzy to know what the hell is going on.
woxihuanni
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Same with me. I'm thinking of just taking 2 tablets of propranolol 30 minutes before the SN, not some crazy amount.
1 hour before: 600mg Ibuprofen
45 mins: 30mg Meto
30 mins: Ranitidine + propranolol
It certainly sounds possible to me. A coma is bound to happen either way without prompt medical intervention.
The limited amount of supporting data from MRI scans of an SN overdose does show there is brain damage occurring over time within the deep grey matter, and it shows visual lesions on the globus pallidus of the brain. This is very similar to the same as what happens in carbon monoxide poisoning. Parkinsons-like symptoms with an inability to control speech and purposefully carry out movements/proper motor functions, cognitive issues, etc...
I have not found there to be enough documented information in reliable literature to know of possibly suffering from these type of long term effects though?
Still, sounds possible to me...
SN doesn't act in a biphasic way. It's not like you pass out and don't die, only to wake up and then it really hits you and die.
I'm less worried about long-term and more worried about not passing out and suffering.
there is a reason I believe I might not pass out.
this is because I have high tolerance to GABA agents, and it appears SN causes some of its effects through nitric oxide, and it appears nitric oxide may work through GABA.
there is a reason I believe I might not pass out.
this is because I have high tolerance to GABA agents, and it appears SN causes some of its effects through nitric oxide, and it appears nitric oxide may work through GABA.
Since I did a comparison like that of SN to CO, I felt the need to add an additional comment.
The half-life of carboxyhemoglobin in fresh air is approximately 4 hours. To completely flush the carbon monoxide from the body requires several hours, valuable time when additional damage can occur.
I think that is probably one of the biggest differences when it comes down to the basics, and reversing any possible brain damage in favor of SN. It can be effectively reversed much more quickly by comparison to how long it takes to reverse toxicity in CO poisoning.
The half-life of carboxyhemoglobin in fresh air is approximately 4 hours. To completely flush the carbon monoxide from the body requires several hours, valuable time when additional damage can occur.
I think that is probably one of the biggest differences when it comes down to the basics, and reversing any possible brain damage in favor of SN. It can be effectively reversed much more quickly by comparison to how long it takes to reverse toxicity in CO poisoning.
It's not the SN but the nitric oxide it creates I'm worried about. I would doubt you have to worry about this, I have a special condition.
