what comes after?

[user667]

i know death is inevitable so i'm not scared of death exactly. but what about suicide? it's been on my mind lately, if there's any sort of punishment. like i'm doing this because i have to and i can't survive anymore. but it's still a shitty thing to do to my family and i'm doing it because i'm weak and just don't feel like living. i've always believed in non existence afterlife but i've come to accept that despite my belief in oblivion there's no one who really knows. i certainly hope there's nothingness, but if there is something, do you think we'll be punished. are you not scared? am i just projecting my guilt and shame about ctb?

 

[Tkmiz_Tsukumizu]

No one knows and those who claim they do are lying

 

[Thegoldenapples]

From the research and peoples NDE who have cbt and come back, you are not punished. We punish ourselves enough and were driven to a dark place, they don't need to do more fuel to the fire.

 

[StringPuppet]

If there's a God then his capacity for empathy and forgiveness should be infinite.

 

[lostmyself]

I don't think you're punished because people believe you weren't in the right frame of mind when you committee the act.

 

[profoundexperience]

1. Many 100s of 1,000,000s of years of multicellular life evolution to get us to "you" (much more if we count unicellular life). Seems like a totally natural process filled with terror and suffering — a continual war of DNA-monster vs. DNA-monster — and especially lacking in any intelligent oversight.
2. Many different theories/stories of various gods and what they "want" (the most "popular" today only having a few thousand years historical basis)... so no clear, definitive "rules" were ever provided.
3. Despicable human beings who have a known propensity to lie, cheat, and steal. We're certainly not above making-up scary stories in order to manipulate or control others.

No, there appears to be neither an "agent" to dole out punishment nor any kind of mechanism by which punishment may be had. At the same time, we have very good reasons to understand why myths of punishment would be invented by human beings.

No, the likelihood of punishment is so minuscule as to be nonexistent.

 

[Somage]

Simple and correct answer is it goes to same as before you were born. Nothing and just non existence.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

"And the wicked shall be turned into hell, and all those who forget god "

pretty obviously not true. But it would be nice if it was - who wouldn't take comfort in knowing that Adam Lanza is roasting like baby back ribs on a smoker ?

 

[Toptock]

There's never been an honest answer regarding what comes after death, a common mantra echoed here is, whatever you choose to believe that gives you peace, is what you should trust in to meet you. Don't expect anyone to give you a fully true answer. Sometimes it helps to center yourself to see what everyone else believes, But when you do that you're putting yourself in a position to be eventually swayed by anothers belief. If you ask a group of people what awaits you, and they all tell you it's hell, you'll start to frame your belief around that.
Personally, I believe there's nothing, but that's not a bad thing, it's an erasure of all things that made the suffering in the first place.

Whatever gives you hope, or offers you a possible answer, that's what you should believe in. If you feel guilty about wanting to CTB, maybe explore what's making you feel that way, and how that came into your life. Understanding the source of it will help you defuse it

 

[yeahwellso]

am i just projecting my guilt and shame about ctb?

Yes.

 

[GarageKarate07]

i know death is inevitable so i'm not scared of death exactly. but what about suicide? it's been on my mind lately, if there's any sort of punishment. like i'm doing this because i have to and i can't survive anymore. but it's still a shitty thing to do to my family and i'm doing it because i'm weak and just don't feel like living. i've always believed in non existence afterlife but i've come to accept that despite my belief in oblivion there's no one who really knows. i certainly hope there's nothingness, but if there is something, do you think we'll be punished. are you not scared? am i just projecting my guilt and shame about ctb?

This has been among the hottest of topics here this week! Look at the list. Everyone here has been making threads about this very heavily this last few days/weeks/month. I would also suggest NDEs and a little spiritual reading or videos. Delores Cannon as somebody pointed out in one of my threads not long ago. You are not pjnished for suicide. This is the most excepted answer.

YOU ARE NOT PUNISHED FOR SUICIDE!

The pain and sorrow can come from within but after being forgiven in the afterlife you can start to heal and rest. Thats all any of us here want is some damn rest. Another article I posted said you get free bunnies and kittens to help take your mind off of things! That doesn't sound so bad. ❤

 

[insanedoomer]

one day i was playing a video game suddently i paused it and i started thinking about suicide , since then i realized it was the only thing who makes me lost , since taht day im never lost again its my new only and lonely dream all i wanted to say is i've been throught the same thing but finally i realised the beauty of nihilism .

 

[GarageKarate07]

"And the wicked shall be turned into hell, and all those who forget god "

pretty obviously not true. But it would be nice if it was - who wouldn't take comfort in knowing that Adam Lanza is roasting like baby back ribs on a smoker ?

I had to look him up. Adam. I didnt realise there was a responsible party for that event. However a question to ask is who was it that hurt Adam before that? Who was it that hurt the person before that? Did his mom fuck him up? Was his mom raped or abused as a girl by her loved ones? Adam could have stopped the cycle but he didn't. Who will stop the cycle now? Some of those parents are probly in counseling and hold onto that hate and blame others and hurt them as well. This is partly because of the shitty health system but where does the cycle end? When do we fight the pain together and make the world a better place? And then where does punishment for Adam and all these "bad people" come in? Are they punished or do they get a fucking break after being so hurt and making a mistake. Doctors killed my kid. That's ok. Its not a punishment I wish on them in death. I just wish they and we would have the strength to pick up the game while we are still here. I don't see that happening any time soon. ❤

 

[Toptock]

This is partly because of the shitty health system but where does the cycle end? When do we fight the pain together and make the world a better place?

I just wish they and we would have the strength to pick up the game while we are still here. I don't see that happening any time soon. ❤

Why do that when it's easier to make fun of others? Why take the natural course of a tribal culture when it's so much easier to point and laugh?

 

[GarageKarate07]

Why do that when it's easier to make fun of others? Why take the natural course of a tribal culture when it's so much easier to point and laugh?

I'm not saying that it wasn't funny. the guys pics look like he is the mayor of crazy town...

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

 

[TriggerHappy]

ok here goes - my experienced truth: we are not punished or named and shamed for whatever we do - we decide on method best to learn what we chose to (or not) What happens when you die. I have communicated with spirits (read for people for 22 years & those who have family that have died from accidents / suicide etc) and i see /share stuff for validation purposes: there are messages & truths awesome beyond comprehension.
like i said the atheists and skeptics can say what they want this is my Romany reality /truth is.

Read Journey of Souls by Michael Newton.

 

[alown]

ok here goes - my experienced truth: we are not punished or named and shamed for whatever we do - we decide on method best to learn what we chose to (or not) What happens when you die. I have communicated with spirits (read for people for 22 years & those who have family that have died from accidents / suicide etc) and i see /share stuff for validation purposes: there are messages & truths awesome beyond comprehension.
like i said the atheists and skeptics can say what they want this is my Romany reality /truth is.

Read Journey of Souls by Michael Newton.

Suicide is an integral part of the soul contract

 

[WornOutLife]

I'm not scared at all.
The only hell which is out there is the one we're living in right now. Even innocent children die! Ridiculous!

Unfortunately, I think rapists, serial killers, politicians, good people, religious people and so on, they all end up in the same place; eternal nothingness or they log out from this simulation we're actually living in! (I really believe in this stuff lol)

 

[alown]

I'm not scared at all.
The only hell which is out there is the one we're living in right now. Even innocent children die! Ridiculous!

Unfortunately, I think rapists, serial killers, politicians, good people, religious people and so on, they all end up in the same place; eternal nothingness or they log out from this simulation we're actually living in! (I really believe in this stuff lol)

 

[booray]

I'm not scared at all.
The only hell which is out there is the one we're living in right now. Even innocent children die! Ridiculous!

Unfortunately, I think rapists, serial killers, politicians, good people, religious people and so on, they all end up in the same place; eternal nothingness or they log out from this simulation we're actually living in! (I really believe in this stuff lol)

I think that's interesting that you think rapists and serial killers will end up in the same place as everybody else. I never really considered it before, but maybe because I was brought up Catholic, I always assumed that people like that would go to hell for sure.

 

[WornOutLife]

I think that's interesting that you think rapists and serial killers will end up in the same place as everybody else. I never really considered it before, but maybe because I was brought up Catholic, I always assumed that people like that would go to hell for sure.

I was brought up as a Catholic too but fortunately, I read a lot about different religions and ended up being an agnostic lol.
I wish there was really a hell for those people but I think there isn't.
Still, it's really unfair. I just don't understand this world at all. Why the hell are we here in first place? I bet eternal nothingness is much better.

 

[Sullun]

Peace and an end to suffering and pain.

 

[FuneralCry]

I believe there is nothing after this life, the same as how before we were born there was nothing, and we simply return to that state. I guess it is the unknown though, nobody really knows. Ctb isn't an act worthy of punishment even if there was something after death as we are doing it to simply end our pain and be free from it.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

From a physical perspective our bodies are recycled back into the planet and nature takes it course of cannibalizing our bodies. From a non physical perspective we don't know if there is a non-physical that's the part that sucks if there is I hope it's just a dream state forever

 

[Tamara Tami]

El suicidio es una parte integral del contrato del alma

i have think the same

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I think if anyone knew for sure and could prove it, then we'd all know by now but until then I'm sure that whatever omnipotent force that put us on this planet should realize that most living beings got a shit deal in life and that the very concept of using eternal agony to punish souls does not fit any physically possible crime that can be committed because it denies the capacity for rehabilitation.

 

[fox_wannabe]

From the research and peoples NDE who have cbt and come back, you are not punished. We punish ourselves enough and were driven to a dark place, they don't need to do more fuel to the fire.

Why would they come back ?
They shouldn't, there is nothing to gain here people///

 

[Shadowplay]

Oblivion, I can only hope.

 

[toforigivelife]

From those who are more spiritually attuned to those who have some credibility as far as having psychic and precognitive abilities to those who've come as close to death without actually dying and lived to tell the tale; there is no hell, everyone gets the chance to deal with their life and work through their own personal karma and those who die by suicide are not singled out for punishment.