I've always hoped and thought that maybe there is some simple method/ combination of easily accessible items that is undiscovered, sitting under our noses. No risky / sketchy / complicated online ordering. Just a shopping list of peace.
Meretlein
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- Feb 15, 2019
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Most "peaceful pills" (choral hydrate, barbiturates, ami cocktail) knock you out and disrupt the electrical activity in your heart.
There could be another substance that does this discovered one day but it would be restricted pretty quickly.
There could be another substance that does this discovered one day but it would be restricted pretty quickly.
It isn't like people can experiment, if they succeed they will die and have nobody to spread the method.
The successful methods stop lungs from working (barbituates), stop the heart from working, or prevent blood oxygenation (sodium nitrate).
Most of the chemicals you would find, like those around the house, would just wreck your intestines which is a slow terrible death, cause liver failure which is a slow terrible death, or just cause extreme nausea and vomitting.
There are a lot of ways death can do wrong, so there has to be some sort of theory as to why it would be lethal.
Well there is a simple method with household items, hanging. It can be a bit scary though and there is a chance of bad brain damage if you are found early.
The successful methods stop lungs from working (barbituates), stop the heart from working, or prevent blood oxygenation (sodium nitrate).
Most of the chemicals you would find, like those around the house, would just wreck your intestines which is a slow terrible death, cause liver failure which is a slow terrible death, or just cause extreme nausea and vomitting.
There are a lot of ways death can do wrong, so there has to be some sort of theory as to why it would be lethal.
Well there is a simple method with household items, hanging. It can be a bit scary though and there is a chance of bad brain damage if you are found early.
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MeltingHeart
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- Sep 9, 2019
- 2,151
Who knows maybe there is some delicious berry on plant in the amazon rainforest that sends you peacefully to sleep- kinda like the opposite of all the new "superfoods" that are always discovered there and then marketed to health freaks around the world- sold at extortionate prices in wholefoods- but i guess if there were and it was discovered - you'd still prob have to buy online from some secret illegal website. It would be too good to be true if there were. Or it would be highly regulated / kept under wraps by any government/ law legislators that heard about it.
WhiteDespair
The Temporary Problem is Life
- Oct 24, 2019
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A miniature black hole opens in your brain for 1 second and then disappears.
A miniature black hole opens in your brain for 1 second and then disappears.
I'm surprised no one has thought of Actaea pachypoda, also known as doll's eyes or white baneberry. The berries and the entire plant are considered poisonous to humans. The berries contain cardiogenic toxins which can have an immediate sedative effect on human cardiac muscle tissue, and are the most poisonous part of the plant. Ingestion of the berries can lead to cardiac arrest and death. It's native to eastern North America, in eastern Canada, and the Midwestern and Eastern United States. I'm also sure you can still buy the seeds/plant online (I looked forever ago). Also, the berries ripen over the summer, turning into a fruit that persists on the plant until frost.
Lotus1818
Experienced
- Nov 4, 2019
- 248
even if there is such a thing. eventually the goverment will take that away from us. There were loads of peacefull ways to die. but they are slowly taking it away by either making it illegal or hard to obtain.
if a peacefull pill is made. enough people will resent it. And they will take that away from us again.
if a peacefull pill is made. enough people will resent it. And they will take that away from us again.
BipolarExpat
Accomplished faker
- May 30, 2019
- 698
I don't know about "peaceful" necessarily but there are quite a few natural options out there that (I'd think) would be nearly guaranteed if over-consumed while isolated.
18 Poisonous Plants and Flowers
Some wild plants are a threat to hikers and amateur foragers, while other common flora are a hidden danger to kids, pets and farm animals.
I don't know about "peaceful" necessarily but there are quite a few natural options out there that (I'd think) would be nearly guaranteed if over-consumed while isolated.
18 Poisonous Plants and Flowers
Some wild plants are a threat to hikers and amateur foragers, while other common flora are a hidden danger to kids, pets and farm animals.www.mnn.com
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None will be peaceful. Rosary pea sounded nice until I saw, "Symptoms of poisoning include nausea, vomiting, convulsions, liver failure, and death, usually after several days." And good luck on finding castor beans, especially due to ricin.
"In the US, ricin appears on the select agents list of the Department of Health and Human Services, and scientists must register with HHS to use ricin in their research. However, investigators possessing less than 1000 mg (1g) are exempt from regulation.
Ricin is classified as an extremely hazardous substance in the United States as defined in Section 302 of the US Emergency Planning and Community Right-to-Know Act (42 U.S.C. 11002), and is subject to strict reporting requirements by facilities that produce, store, or use it in significant quantities."
The death process takes several days for ricin, depending upon the dosage, but at least one advantage out of it is that it's almost impossible to detect in an autopsy.
MeltingHeart
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- Sep 9, 2019
- 2,151
Sounds good! How did you hear about this? I wonder if anyone has ever 'used' it? As a method I mean
I don't even know how I stumbled across it. It was probably five-eight years ago. I thought about it as a method at the time, but never bought it because during that timeframe I was 16-19 years old. I was also already using different methods at the time, too (ODing, exsanguination). As far as someone using it as a method, beats me. Would have to put in the research or perhaps start a new thread on here asking about it/other poisonous plants used for as a method. I did find two threads on here about it though:
Doll's eyes berries
Plant toxicity
They are acrid tasting.
"Actaea species are closely related to plants in the genus Aconitum a highly toxic plant genus which contains wolfbane and several varieties of monkshood."
and
Ranunculaceae is I believe in the buttercup family, which would have protoanemonin.
I'm not a botanist/herbologist, so that's as far as I got. If someone wants to go from there, be my guest.
EndItQuickly
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- Oct 30, 2019
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Stan
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- Aug 29, 2019
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There are already a few 'fringe' methods that have been spoken about on the board which I think show some real promise in a peaceful exit.
zherhk
Student
- Nov 25, 2019
- 126
I understand the point of a painless exit and researching it myself too.
But aren't we already feeling pain all day every day?
But aren't we already feeling pain all day every day?
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