Welcome Pro Lifers

[Jean4]

Mods.. feel free to delete this.

Hello pro-lifers.

It is I. Jean. But you already know that as you have been stalking me off the board and sending me lovely PMs.

I know all of your are guning for me, and I have a target on my back.

I hate to tell you. No. I will not say anything you can use against me or the board.

I apologize for making you all angry. You want me to say that we harm people here... which is the farthest from the truth.

You want to know all about me. My reasons for being here. Sorry the answers I have given you do not meet your needs... and that is to hurt this board.

I enjoy all your threats about how you are going to throw me in jail. Those threats are particularly laughable.

I find it highly amusing, when you aren't able to get what you want from me, you go to my friends. Ssshhhh don't tell anybody. They show me your PMs and ask me what to say.

Stan would find it amusing how you bring him up. Sorry... he wasn't this horrible monster who killed people. You have also made him more powerful than he was. His only method was SN. He didn't push people. Quite the contrary. He helped more people stay here than you will ever know. As I said. Please get it correct. He was an expert on SN only. Not every method imaginable which you have accused him of.

Oh. Insulting him doesn't bother me. Who in their right mind would care about the opinion of a stranger, who never knew him and is absolutely clueless of who he was?

By the way. People are sensitive here. If you went up to someone and said some of the things you have said regarding Stan about their loved ones... you may push them to CTB. How would you feel contributing to a person's death?

Let's cut to the chase. It's me you want. Feel free to talk to me. Leave the other forum members alone. Look at it this way. Your PMs to other members are being shown to me. I know the answer. You won't be getting what you want from them.

This is my home. You will not shut it down. If you want to have a rational, adult conversation regarding suicide, please respond to this post. Why hide your intentions? Are you ashamed of being Pro-Life?

As I said. You want me. Come and get me. Stop being children hiding behind a computer screen causing havoc.

Now. Let's get this board back to normal. I am here if anyone needs me. That includes the pro-lifers.

 

[Carina]

Yeah, I mean we know some specific people are here, or trying to be, or at least are in guest form... shame they call people out, but then ignore any attempts to do anything, or even go after others.

But it's what they do I guess... not really wanting to hear the truth of things, despite claiming they see everything, or that they see people suggesting illegal things going on or specific brands practically in death objects that are the 'only way' to ctb.

They're one sided. But oh well. They just won't learn or contact the people they want.

I mean sure, they 'know' you know that you said that. I'm just a hidden person that's a nobody... well that's being pushed now, but whatever, don't care.

Still though, if they do want certain people, even as a guest, they should just contact, be honest, or just leave.

 

[one4all]

*stands next to Jean4 with a popcorn gun* United we stand!

 

[Esc9434]

How could anyone who reads this forum be against its purpose?

People are hurt out here without means to fix their problems. Are these pro-lifers going to help these hurt people?

From what I read about this board, it is very supportive. It doesn't push people towards a certain direction.

 

[Jean4]

How could anyone who reads this forum be against its purpose?

People are hurt out here without means to fix their problems. Are these pro-lifers going to help these hurt people?

From what I read about this board, it is very supportive. It doesn't push people towards a certain direction.

Nope. Yes. People come to me when they want to CTB. However, the majority just want to talk to someone who understands and respects their feelings.

 

[Esc9434]

If these pro-lifers want to make a difference, then push the knowledge and treatment of Cluster B personality disorders more mainstream.

Those people are the ones who cause some of the trouble that drives people to this forum.

Also, get these doctors to stop pushing psych drugs, and start pushing natural alternatives.

 

[Jean4]

If these pro-lifers want to make a difference, then the knowledge and treatment of Cluster B personality disorders more mainstream.

Those people are the ones who cause some of the trouble that drives people to this forum.

Also, get these doctors to stop push psych drugs, and push natural alternatives.

We need to take the stigma away from mental illness so people talk about it more... and we make is socially acceptable.

 

[Squiddy]

Anybody who's against this forum is getting pitchforks and torched >:)

 

[Carina]

How could anyone who reads this forum be against its purpose?

People are hurt out here without means to fix their problems. Are these pro-lifers going to help these hurt people?

From what I read about this board, it is very supportive. It doesn't push people towards a certain direction.

See that's the thing. At least some of the pro life people in question think that if the site wasn't here, no one would ctb! It's only because of websites that people do it, because humans don't know how to do it otherwise (please ignore Pirates of the Caribbean by Disney showing how people can ctb).

Seriously though, they honestly think the mere existence of the website and people here is pushing them toward, because we aren't tracking the IPs, locating their houses, and calling swat on them.

 

[Esc9434]

We need to take the stigma away from mental illness so people talk about it more... and we make is socially acceptable.

Yeah, I wasn't saying anything bad about Cluster B's, but some of them have hurt other people here.

 

[Nem]

If these pro-lifers want to make a difference, then push the knowledge and treatment of Cluster B personality disorders more mainstream.

Those people are the ones who cause some of the trouble that drives people to this forum.

Also, get these doctors to stop push psych drugs, and push natural alternatives.

Drs suck pretty hard unfortunately
Peace/hugs

 

[Lost in a Dream]

But now they are just going to quote mine the shit out of this post and edit what they need to, so they can look like heroes while they ride around on their high horses and trample us in the dirt!

*grabs a pitchfork* Here we go!

 

[oopswronglife]

Jean...I know you are doing your best to survive like all of us...please understand I am genuine in this...but things like this just keep drama highlighted and on top and present...same with the posts where people insult and antagonize the family of various victims who can't let it go etc. You aren't going to "win" a battle against human emotions. At some point you become fuel for the fire you are trying to extinguish, and make things about yourself and a need to have an enemy and purpose and a distraction.

I've seen this same exact script play out over and over and over online in forums on this topic and the world at large. It's happened HERE over and over as different members come and go. I am not invalidating your situation. There is no excuse for harrassing, trolling, messing with people. But it's a proven fact that people like this don't back down in the face of challenges or debate. The best way and only way to deal with people who are making your life worse in this way is to ignore them...not poke them or implore them to suddenly be fair. "Call outs" do not and never have worked...and all of this continued spotlighting is harming the forum and those here...not helping. It's not protecting...it's inflaming.

 

[one4all]

Let it be

 

[Broken Chimera]

The pro lifers really have nothing better to do? Stalk people on a pro choice forum.

 

[Jean4]

Jean...I know you are doing your best to survive like all of us...please understand I am genuine in this...but things like this just keep drama fueled and on top and present...same with the posts where people insult and antagonize the family of various victims who can't let it go etc. You aren't going to "win" a battle against human emotions. I've seen this same exact script play out over and over and over online in forums on this topic and the world at large. Best way to deal with people like that who are making your life worse is to ignore them...not poke them.

It isn't drama when they are going after innocents and writing them on Facebook.

They want me. I am affording myself up.

Also. I want them to stop hiding behind a screen.Let's have an adult conversation.

 

[-Link-]

I don't understand how someone who thinks it's OK to harass members of a suicide forum can also label themselves "pro-life".

 

[Carina]

But now they are just going to quote mine the shit out of this post and edit what they need to, so they can look like heroes while they ride around on their high horses and trample us in the dirt!

*grabs a pitchfork* Here we go!

While @Jean4 said for them to leave others alone--they can come to me too, I don't care. It's not like I'm not the type to seek THEM out to call them out on things lol.

 

[Suicide_vampire]

I'm not in a great place this evening but reading this thread, gave me a wee lift. I stand by @Jean4 and all she does. You want to get to her through pms you have to go through me, why Pro-lifers are you doing it all in pm, are you too scared to voice your opinions publically, what do you have to hide, it must be something look at us we hide nothing as we bare our souls in public and in full view.
You got something to say..... Say it too me I'm fired up now for you, so bring it on.

 

[Jean4]

I don't understand how someone who thinks it's OK to harass members of a suicide forum can also label themselves "pro-life".

And off the forum irl. We are at an entirely new level.

 

[LittleJem]

Dear Pro Lifers. I wake up every day with suicidal thoughts from morning to evening. Then the next day the same again. Plus panic, agitation, misery. I am saying goodbye to people in my life, because I keep asking them to strangle me. I know I am not in the worst situation, and many people are in more mental and also physical pain than me. While I am still fighting, I also just want this suffering to end.

Believe me, Pro Lifers, if you were suffering, you would feel just the same way. Yes I've seen my doctor. Yes I've had years of therapy. Yes I've been on medication. Nothing helps.

 

[Jean4]

Dear Pro Lifers. I wake up every day with suicidal thoughts from morning to evening. Then the next day the same again. Plus panic, agitation, misery. I am saying goodbye to people in my life, because I keep asking them to strangle me. I know I am not in the worst situation, and many people are in more mental and also physical pain than me. While I am still fighting, I also just want this suffering to end.

Believe me, Pro Lifers, if you were suffering, you would feel just the same way. Yes I've seen my doctor. Yes I've had years of therapy. Yes I've been on medication. Nothing helps.

If the pro-lifers and reporters want to have an adult, intellectual conversation regarding suicide... let's do it in the open. Not PMs or Facebook.

 

[Carina]

I don't understand how someone who thinks it's OK to harass members of a suicide forum can also label themselves "pro-life".

I know right?

I actually saw a website that was going after us here, and their comments lead to another on their own board saying 'you realize that's their goal right?' Because they hated our existence so much, they wanted us to die. Which is ironic. We here help each other (yeah, it's pro-choice, but recovery forum, all that, sometimes just being able to talk without judgement is all people need)

Irony is lost on the pro-life people

 

[Majin K.]

Pro lifers are the real monsters. They don't want suicidal people to find out about peaceful ways to die and also want to shut down forums like these were we can talk with individuals who go through similar issues in life. People who genuinely understand us and don't puke out the same garbage over and over again. You're not helping. Shutting down places like these won't stop suicidal people from attempting suicide. What's so hard to understand about life sometimes simply not being worth living?

 

[LittleJem]

If the pro-lifers and reporters want to have an adult, intellectual conversation regarding suicide... let's do it in the open. Not PMs or Facebook.

I wish the Pro Lifers and the media in general would give a platform and a voice to everyone in suffering who wants to die.

I have wanted to die for over 20 years and I am not alone. Suicide is as old as humanity.

 

[Jean4]

I wish the Pro Lifers and the media in general would give a platform and a voice to everyone in suffering who wants to die.

I have wanted to die for over 20 years and I am not alone. Suicide is as old as humanity.

Here is their big chance. To have an open discussion.

If they don't take us up on the offer, then they really aren't interested in learning about suicide.

 

[Pryras]

I just want to say I would have been dead by now if I didn't find this forum. I'm not exaggerating, merely having a safe place to vent away from that pro life bs has helped my compulsiveness tremendously.

 

[Esc9434]

I wish the Pro Lifers and the media in general would give a platform and a voice to everyone in suffering who wants to die.

I have wanted to die for over 20 years and I am not alone. Suicide is as old as humanity.

Right. Maybe if people who hurt others realize the impact of their actions, then they would think twice about those actions.

Society would become a better place.

 

[Jean4]

Right. Maybe if people who hurt others realize the impact of their actions, then they would think twice about their actions.

Correct. Which is why I am calling them out to have a rational discussion.

 

[Suicide_vampire]

Here is their big chance. To have an open discussion.

If they don't take us up on the offer, then they really aren't interested in learning about suicide.

They don't want to learn or understand. They are the moral majority they want to control.
If they did want to understand they would chat openly with us...

HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.... no one will insult you or attack you ask a question speak to us