Ways to prevent/migitate a seizure?

[foreveryoung]

For one of the methods im looking at theres a high probability of a seizure. I've heard some pretty gruesome stuff about going through one, things like grinding teeth, dislocating a bone, or hitting your head on something and causing a skull fracture. It can also lead to making some noise and alerting someone to try and "rescue" you. How can I keep myself in one place and avoid all these things? I guess it wouldn't matter if something broke in me after im dead, its only the last part that concerns me. I don't want to get noticed and "rescued" then have to suffer all the consequences.

I don't think their are any over the counter drugs to prevent/migitate a seizure.
Diazepam is probably the best bet I have and the easiest to get, is there anything else? I've never had a seizure before and most seizure meds are barbituates so i dont think i can get a doctor to prescribe me any. I've read that Gabapentin can prevent a seizure, and similar drug called phenibut but not really any clue if its effective. Would be nice if anyone who has experience with seizures can give some advice.

 

[Girobatol]

Valproic acid or carbamazepine are very popular.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Valproic acid or carbamazepine are very popular.

I wonder how long they must be taken to build up in order to prevent seizures. I was warned that is an issue with taking Gabapentin as a preventative.

From what I understand, Diazepam is the fast-acting treatment used by hospitals.

@foreveryoung , perhaps you can research emergency interventions for seizures and see what meds come up.

 

[squirtsoda]

This might be a far fetched way but if you tell your doctor you have an alcohol problem and can't deal with cravings, or your psychiatrist, there's a chance they may offer you topamax/topiramate which prevents seizures. It can make you feel strange and also has a relatively high occurrence of causing suicidal thoughts, I was definitely way more imminently suicidal on it. Causes brain fog too.

 

[Girobatol]

I wonder how long they must be taken to build up in order to prevent seizures. I was warned that is an issue with taking Gabapentin as a preventative.

From what I understand, Diazepam is the fast-acting treatment used by hospitals.

@foreveryoung , perhaps you can research emergency interventions for seizures and see what meds come up.

They give you both. A benzo like diazepam, lorazepam or clonazepam and antiseizure medication like carbamazepine or valproic acid in liquid form.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

They give you both. A benzo like diazepam, lorazepam or clonazepam and antiseizure medication like carbamazepine or valproic acid in liquid form.

I appreciate your response, I would like to know, too. Would you be willing to say how you know this?

 

[Fragile]

Cannabis has proven some use when it comes to preventing ans treating seizures, although the dose is not clear since there are not enough studies about this, there is a lot of history of it being used to treat some forms of severe epilepsy as a last resort when everything else has failed in both adults and children.

gabapentin and pregabalin are also used to treat seizures, they are not as popular as some benzos, but some people use them as a first line treatment for seizures. gabapentin in particular was actually developed to treat seizures and epileptic disorders and has a good track record when it comes to its effectiveness.

 

[Girobatol]

I appreciate your response, I would like to know, too. Would you be willing to say how you know this?

I have an aunt that suffers from seizures. I lived with her. I also take antiseizure meds but for bipolar.

 

[Morphinekiss]

You need to focus on what are considered "rescue meds" for epileptics as they are fast acting at preventing and stopping seizure activity.

any other AED will take atleast a month to build up to a therapeutic level that would prevent a seizure.

 

[brokerofsecrets]

Cannabis has proven some use when it comes to preventing ans treating seizures, although the dose is not clear since there are not enough studies about this, there is a lot of history of it being used to treat some forms of severe epilepsy as a last resort when everything else has failed in both adults and children.

gabapentin and pregabalin are also used to treat seizures, they are not as popular as some benzos, but some people use them as a first line treatment for seizures. gabapentin in particular was actually developed to treat seizures and epileptic disorders and has a good track record when it comes to its effectiveness.

cannabidiol is apparently a really effective seizure medication, there are videos of cannabidiol stopping seizures in their tracks (usually on children) but I'd rather go with the pharmaceutical stuff that's been researched

 

[foreveryoung]

So after reading suggestions here and doing some research heres what i found:
Cholorquine suicide attempt. She was found having a grand mal seizure

https://pmj.bmj.com/content/postgradmedj/67/789/678.full.pdf

"Grand mal seizure" thats what i was afraid of.

I think i also read an attempt on the forums here somewhere who failed and woke up with skull fractures probaby because he was having seizure.

Grand mal seizure:
Semiconscious victim turns helpless and may produce loud screams. The second phase, which is commonly known as the clonic phase, remains for a prolong duration.

Valporic Acid looked promising and can be bought online, but dosing is complicated. Choloroquine OD and trying to prevent possible seizure just seems way too risky.

Valproic Acid Dosage: Things You Must Know - Grand Mal Seizures

Valproic Acid Dosage – Efficacious Anticonvulsant Drug: In recent time, Valproic Acid dosage has emerged as one of the most effective anticonvulsant drug for patients suffering from grand mal seizures and bipolar...

seizures.dolyan.com

Valproic Acid Dosage Depends On Seizures' Condition
Undoubtedly, this remedy has found great in treating extreme bipolar disorder and seizures; however, there are influencing factors on which dose of valproic acid depends. It includes but not limited to the weight of patient, other medicines using in the course, specific types of seizures being cured. Dosing varies for all set of seizures. Where for partial seizures, dosing may reach up-to 15 mg per kg total each day, dosing for less critical seizures types may get down to 10 mg.

 

[notjustyetagain]

not sure how similar the aetiology of alcohol-withdrawal seizures is to chloroquine-OD seizures, but i've had >50 grand-mal seizures from alcohol withdrawal. benzos alone invariably prevented them; diazepam is the "gold standard" in treating alcohol withdrawal, delirium tremens, and related seizures, so i tentatively recommend that. treatment usually started with a 20–40mg IV dose, then between 80–200mg diazepam per day. i never got put on anything but benzos to prevent my alcohol-withdrawal seizures, though combining w/sodium valproate may further raise seizure threshold. as mentioned it takes some time to become effective, one leaflet states "sodium valproate may take several days to show an initial effect and in some cases may take from two to six weeks for maximum effect" -- source: "how to take this medicine"

but yeah, grand mals are fearsome. worth preventing as much as possible. i was usually injured, mostly chewing through my tongue and repeatedly smashing my head against hard floors/walls. had one crossing a road... lucky not to be hit/run over. aspirating vomit is a risk. thankfully i was completely unconscious through all of them, just came to in a lot of pain and confused to the point of not knowing my name. when i had them around others, most of the time witnesses said the grand mal started with me screaming intensely -- something to consider if being found is a risk. witnesses told me they've lasted 1–15 minutes; docs said i may have suffered some brain damage from the longer ones (hypoxia AFAIK).

 

[foreveryoung]

treatment usually started with a 20–40mg IV dose, then between 80–200mg diazepam per day

In the book Dignified Dying by Chabot for the choloroquine method, it explains diazepam is administered through IV but doesn't say if it can be taken orally. Hmm, will it work the same taken orally? It also seems to get administered by the doctor halfway through and might change the dose depending on how severe the seizure is. Like a lot of the other methods I don't think this was meant to do be done alone, only under supervision.

when i had them around others, most of the time witnesses said the grand mal started with me screaming intensely -- something to consider if being found is a risk. witnesses told me they've lasted 1–15 minutes; docs said i may have suffered some brain damage from the longer ones (hypoxia AFAIK).

Guess i really dodged a bullet there, not just with choloroquine but i think there are other methods too that can lead to seizures which would really mess things up or makes things a lot worse, something to keep in mind. Thanks for the knowledge.