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suffering

suffering

Too p*ssy to end it, too suicidal to leave
Aug 17, 2018
398
This point of view was shared by multiple philosophers, basically to see life as something you have to endure, as a punishment for being born. As I lack the courage to end it, I find that this approach does indeed bring some consolation. Besides coming into existence (which can be argued that it wasn't with my consent), I am also guilty for the fact that I used to be a pro-natalist, something which I bitterly regret, although thankfully I did not reproduce.
But when life hits me (and boy does it hit hard!) I view it as punishment for all the things I did, desired or thought of in the past. I view myself as a criminal who deserves this, because otherwise I would fall into the helplessness of viewing myself as a victim paying for other people's mistakes. And that feels harder to endure.

Does anyone feel the same?
 
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lemmeeleev

lemmeeleev

Still here
Nov 29, 2018
927
None of us ever asked to be alive in the first place.
 
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NumbItAll

NumbItAll

expendable
May 20, 2018
1,065
Well it does feel like a jail sentence but I don't think any of us deserve to be suffering. That sounds kinda like Stockholm syndrome?
 
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Final Escape

I’ve been here too long
Jul 8, 2018
4,348
Yes it can feel like this, especially if you have had lifelong adjustment problems, personality disorder. I always wonder what life is like for people who don't have these problems. It must be wonderful, well a lot easier. So much in life depends on how well you were socialized, your concientiousness, your ability to function well in employment, and relationships.
 
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21Neberg

21Neberg

Enlightened
Dec 17, 2018
1,624
In a way, life certainly is a jail sentence. It is horrible and we have no saying in whether or not we get the jail sentence. But that is also why life can be viewed as not a jail sentence, because we did nothing to deserve all this being alive and such.
 
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waived

waived

I am a sunrise
Jan 5, 2019
974
Nope. Life is what we are born into as a highly social species, capable of a high level of stasis, but which has been and is currently operating with highly coercive systems against the needs and desires of most people. To overlook this first is an error imo. Even the word and idea of criminal has been born out of the human realms of religion and civil order and is a moral abstraction used to control populations under temporal authority, and looses all of its charm outside of that, as do all Imperial definitions and ways of thinking. There is no science version of creation where the cosmos or nature are sentient and angry and punishing. Punishment as an idea is a facet of a social species, perhaps exclusive to humans. Jail as the idea being used here belongs (and has) to the current order for hegemony within a class society (and we can go further back than that.)
 
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