Vent about SN

[Fractal]

I can't even hold down 4tbsp of table salt for over 15 minutes. There's no chance I'm holding down 25 grams of SN, even with an AE. I'll vomit it up immediately. There's no chance. I know 4 tbsp is alot of salt, but it's not THAT much. I have no problem doing nasty shit. I've literally fried my body and brain through non compliance of type 1 diabetes since I was a little kid, even though I wasn't aware of it at the time, the point stands that I can handle chugging some nasty shit and putting my body through tons of abuse, but it just seems impossible. I'm stupid as fuck and I'm pretty sure I'll fuck up CO and I'm dead broke. This is what I get for never taking my health seriously. It wasn't my fault that my family gave zero shits about me taking too much insulin and following the doctors regiment as a kid and having frequent lows for years, and feeding me as if I basically wasn't diabetic but it damn sure is now.

 

[dggtscccvfd]

I can't even hold down 4tbsp of table spot for over 15 minutes. There's no chance I'm holding down 25 grams of SN, even with an AE. I'll vomit.it up immediately. There's no chance. I know 4 tbsp is a lot of salt, but it's not THAT much. I have no problem doing nasty shit. I've literally fried my body and braim through npn compliance of type 1 diabetes since I was a little kid, even though I wasn't aware of it at the time, the point stands that I can handle chugging some nasty shit and putting my body through tons of abuse, but it just seems impossible. I'm stupid as fuck and I'm pretty sure I'll fuck up CO and I'm dead broke. This is what I get for never taking my health seriously. It wasn't my fault that my family gave zero shits about me taking too much insulin and following the doctors regiment as a kid and having frequent lows for years, and feeding me as if I basically wasn't diabetic but it damn sure is now.

Table spot? Presumably you mean table salt?

 

[Fractal]

Table spot? Presumably you mean table salt?

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[Captive_Mind515]

Do you take the AE when trying to keep the salt down?

 

[notforl0ng]

AE are typically prescribed for patients going through chemotherapy, where extreme and unavoidable vomiting is a thing. Your odds of keeping it down, even with nausea, are good if you follow the regimen. You're most likely going to survive if you don't use AE. Vizzy's bible says that if you don't have an AE, you can do it with a second glass prepared in case of vomiting and I honestly think that's just bad advice in general.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

AE are typically prescribed for patients going through chemotherapy, where extreme and unavoidable vomiting is a thing. Your odds of keeping it down, even with nausea, are good if you follow the regimen. You're most likely going to survive if you don't use AE. Vizzy's bible says that if you don't have an AE, you can do it with a second glass prepared in case of vomiting and I honestly think that's just bad advice in general.

True. The chances of success are significant with AEs, now yes people may still vomit inspite using them but that doesn't mean they are completely useless and worth bypassing, if succeeding is the end goal then the components that have worked before for others are important to consider.

But @Fractal perhaps you have significant sensitivity regarding salt or any solution with a great amount of salt in it plus you don't even need a lot of sn left in your system for it to ctb so if you don't profusely vomit and hold it over the course of 5 mins then you should've feasibly absorbed enough.

 

[notforl0ng]

True. The chances of success are significant with AEs, now yes people may still vomit inspite using them but that doesn't mean they are completely useless and worth bypassing, if succeeding is the end goal then the components that have worked before for others are important to consider.

But @Fractal perhaps you have significant sensitivity regarding salt or any solution with a great amount of salt in it plus you don't even need a lot of sn left in your system for it to ctb so if you don't profusely vomit and hold it over the course of 5 mins then you should've feasibly absorbed enough.

I really think the reason most people fail with this method is because they do it impulsively, like no AE, no fasting, no benzos or anything to calm the nerves. They have the SN, then when things push them to the limit, they just drink it without a second thought and instantly regret the decision. It's like hanging. It's extremely, extremely effective as a means to CTB but people post in here every day about failing partial suspension.

Like you say, I think if OP does the antiemetics for three days beforehand, mixes the 25g of SN into 30-50ml of water and drinks it in one big sip, odds are good of dying. I think that point about keeping it in just long enough for your body to absorb most of it is a good one.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

I really think the reason most people fail with this method is because they do it impulsively, like no AE, no fasting, no benzos or anything to calm the nerves. They have the SN, then when things push them to the limit, they just drink it without a second thought and instantly regret the decision. It's like hanging. It's extremely, extremely effective as a means to CTB but people post in here every day about failing partial suspension.

Like you say, I think if OP does the antiemetics for three days beforehand, mixes the 25g of SN into 30-50ml of water and drinks it in one big sip, odds are good of dying. I think that point about keeping it in just long enough for your body to absorb most of it is a good one.

It's long been my suspicion but that's what It can do to you, even after ingesting sn, the quickest response is to force oneself to vomit it all out if emesis isn't happening as a natural reaction to SN ingestion. I think SI can interfere with regard to a ctb attempt, although I've also seen a fair share of impulsive attempts as you mentioned, where some don't even take anything and just for it with alcohol or having eaten a few hours prior, it's incredibly hard to surmount the obstacles needed to ctb so I understand why it happens even if there is a regimen to follow, best thing we can ensure is to be aware of our decision but ask ourselves at each step that if this is really it for us.

Like you say, I think if OP does the antiemetics for three days beforehand, mixes the 25g of SN into 30-50ml of water and drinks it in one big sip, odds are good of dying. I think that point about keeping it in just long enough for your body to absorb most of it is a good one.

I definitely agree. Chugging was what @Symbiote did and it nearly worked for him despite being found. All he was a long fasting period and 25g of SN.

And generally, a longer fasting period with no interference of any other substances except for plain water then the 50ml solution should be optimally digested but of course ,I'm not ignoring that even in this case, the SN still comes back up but even in cases of fatality, vomiting has happened, not vomiting isn't necessarily the key to ctb but it can also be the defensive mechanism that saves people hence why some drink sn, vomit almost immediately, got unconscious and wake up hours later, there's a variety of failed attempts that really introduce you to the possibilities of things go but not often without mistakes made.

 

[Fractal]

True. The chances of success are significant with AEs, now yes people may still vomit inspite using them but that doesn't mean they are completely useless and worth bypassing, if succeeding is the end goal then the components that have worked before for others are important to consider.

But @Fractal perhaps you have significant sensitivity regarding salt or any solution with a great amount of salt in it plus you don't even need a lot of sn left in your system for it to ctb so if you don't profusely vomit and hold it over the course of 5 mins then you should've feasibly absorbed enough.

I definitely do. I also have a lot of gut infections and bacteria that I'm starting a supplemnt regiment for soon. If it's successful in healing my gut lining then it'll definitely help. Doing the 48 hour method might be an issue for me because of my type 1. Having high or low blood sugar leading up to ctb could cause issues since nausea is a big symptom. It's ironic that I have to get myself healthier to ensure successfully ctb.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

I definitely do. I also have a lot of gut infections and bacteria that I'm starting a supplemnt regiment for soon.

Yeah I wouldn't even dare try sn if I had this condition, not even a little because it could cause serious gastrointestinal irritation.

Doing the 48 hour method might be an issue for me because of my type 1

Well there is the stat dose as well. That could help.

It's ironic that I have to get myself healthier to ensure successfully ctb.

Considering how all your current issues could get in the way then it's the only way I guess.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

The truth you presented there has now just ruined their life, or saved it

What? Being honest about it, that's all.

 

[Fractal]

I knew it wouldn't work the moment I puked yesterday. I welcome the honesty. Lieing to myself and being delusional and ignoring my problems is what led me here. It's better to have brutal honesty than comfortable lies. Healing my gut will definitely help me do SN, just like it would for most of us. Gut issues, especially in childhood cause a ton of mental health and developmental issues. Maybe I won't think about offing myself every second of the day after healing my gut. There aren't any downsides to healing my gut, nor are there for anyone else. If I feel better after it great, if not, I'll have more assurance that sn will work.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

I knew it wouldn't work the moment I puked yesterday. I welcome the honesty. Lieing to myself and being delusional and ignoring my problems is what led me here. It's better to have brutal honesty than comfortable lies. Healing my gut will definitely help me do SN, just like it would for most of us. Gut issues, especially in childhood cause a ton of mental health and developmental issues. Maybe I won't think about offing myself every second of the day after healing my gut. There aren't any downsides to healing my gut, nor are there for anyone else. If I feel better after it great, if not, I'll have more assurance that sn will work.

I think honesty is important here, due to your current underlying issue which will no doubt cause you a lot of pain and harm if you attempted sn in this condition. I'm really sorry about these health issues, they must absolutely suck, there aren't any downsides and maybe things will be better after that. I've read threads of people who've attempted sn with gut issues but, as you can imagine, it didn't go too well, I think this is why gastric emptying is important for sn, probably the most important part of it.

 

[_Gollum_]

I think honesty is important here, due to your current underlying issue which will no doubt cause you a lot of pain and harm if you attempted sn in this condition. I'm really sorry about these health issues, they must absolutely suck, there aren't any downsides and maybe things will be better after that. I've read threads of people who've attempted sn with gut issues but, as you can imagine, it didn't go too well, I think this is why gastric emptying is important for sn, probably the most important part of it.

Do you know of any more resources talking about the relationship between SN and GI issues?