USA : LGB without T (officially)

[taysontheory]

tried to share news about a trans veteran taking her own life at a VA office while draped in a trans flag.

VA patient died by suicide at top of hospital’s garage in Syracuse

The veteran, a VA mental health patient, was wearing a transgender flag, a witness said.

www.syracuse.com

 

[Kyotospade]

As a trans person this hurts me a lot . The United States is trying to erase us and it's very much shown .

 

[Kyotospade]

Thats not true. Nobody is trying to erase you. LGBT was and always has been a minority. People before acted like it was the most prevalent thing ever. If anything you should be angry at them blowing it up that much. A friend of mine is gay and is opposed to the whole LGBT song and dance...

The United States government taking away the T in LGBT is a big enough sign to say that you are wrong.
Why else would they take the T away?
It isn't being blown up people are just letting it happen and ignoring that another group is being marginalized and stepped on for existing.

 

[before20]

No, the main problem LGBT people have is rising fascism in the United States and deeply-rooted cultural transphobia. Hope this helps.

 

[TheHolySword]

Thats not true. Nobody is trying to erase you. LGBT was and always has been a minority. People before acted like it was the most prevalent thing ever. If anything you should be angry at them blowing it up that much. A friend of mine is gay and is opposed to the whole LGBT song and dance...

It's kind of incredible how you managed to blame LGBT for their oppression. Keep up the critical thinking skills, they serve you well. Very good "I have a ____ friend" argument as well, it just always works.

 

[CTB Dream]

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[EvisceratedJester]

I strongly believe, that there is a place for all people. So are 99% of the people in the US.
The problem was never the original core of the lgbt community, but those protesting naked in the street and teaching sex ed to 5-year-olds. This and the stereotypical "triggered by everything" person is what is stuck in peoples minds. It will be hard to get out of that in the future.

What? First off, who is protesting naked in the streets? If you are referring to pride, then it should be known that Pride was never meant to be a family-friendly event. It was originally and still is a protest. They also tend to post what events are more appropriate for the whole family online. Along with that, a lot of those photos usually aren't even from Pride, they are from other events that have nothing to do with it.

Secondly, what is so bad about teaching 5-year-olds about sex? Besides the fact that the whole "sex-ed for 5-year-olds" thing is generally just a myth that gets spread by many right-wingers, I don't get why that would even be a big deal. I honestly feel like it could be very beneficial since it may allow children to better communicate when they are being sexually abused. Our tendency to continually keep knowledge away from children because of our society deeming those things taboo is actually harmful. It's not even as though children that young don't have a very vague idea of what sex is in the first place. I remember me and my friends getting into a conversation about it because we were curious about it back when we were in grade one. Teaching children about sex in a safe and healthy environment should not be a big deal and is generally better than having them find out about it through other means.

Thirdly, the "stereotypical person triggered by everything"? Really? How old are you? 12? Do you seriously believe in that nonsense? I find it odd how you are pretending to be an ally while simultaneously downplaying and invalidating the OP's very valid concerns. The US has never been a place for all people. This is the same country where people spread lies about Haitians and illegal mexican immigrants about them mostly being criminals or about them eating people's pets. This is the same country that is labelling the Queer community as "predators" and Hate crimes them. This is the same country where black people are getting killed off by the police. The same country that is screwing over women's reproduction rights. The same country where you've got Elon Musk doing nazi salutes and Donald Trump blaming everything on DEI even when said things have nothing to do with it. Your country is filled to the brim with hate, so I have no clue where you got the

I strongly believe, that there is a place for all people. So are 99% of the people in the US.

Because if that were the case then none of this shit would be happening. Hell, Donald Trump would not have won if that were the case. You wouldn't have so many marginalized communities getting all stressed out because of the state of their country if that were the case.

People are going out of their way to try and erase trans people from the community. Just because you are in denial of it doesn't mean that it's not happening. If you are going to come on here just to try and downplay everything because of your own biases that you haven't bothered to address yet, then just leave. You aren't adding anything to the conversation.

 

[NumbItAll]

Their whole agenda is making people's live worse for no reason... I really think they would kill themselves if they didn't have anyone to antagonize.

 

[fallingtopieces]

There were people on here who made light of Project 2025, saying it wouldn't be enacted. The conservative economic and religious agenda is very much happening. Small government for the billionaires, wealthy and corporations (mass firing govt workers, less oversight, sweeping deregulation, abundant cronyism) and yet big government to reach into people's lives, push religion, take away peoples rights, attack lgbtq+, control over women's bodies, scapegoat immigrants, criminalize homelessness. It's amazing how cruel, uncaring, and selfish religious conservatives always seem to be. Thats not even touching on the racism, misogyny, hate, white supremacy you find in their circles.

 

[Deleted member 94706]

I strongly believe, that there is a place for all people. So are 99% of the people in the US.
The problem was never the original core of the lgbt community, but those protesting naked in the street and teaching sex ed to 5 year olds. This and the stereotypical "triggered by everything" person is what is stuck in peoples minds. It will be hard to get out of that in the future.

lots of conservatives are pedophiles too

 

[Winterreise]

What is unthinkable in 2 years time , may become reality.

The gas chambers were an idea that gradually came , as human got accustommed to violence and hardship

 

[Deleted member 94706]

What? First off, who is protesting naked in the streets? If you are referring to pride, then it should be known that Pride was never meant to be a family-friendly event. It was originally and still is a protest. They also tend to post what events are more appropriate for the whole family online. Along with that, a lot of those photos usually aren't even from Pride, they are from other events that have nothing to do with it.

Secondly, what is so bad about teaching 5-year-olds about sex? Besides the fact that the whole "sex-ed for 5-year-olds" thing is generally just a myth that gets spread by many right-wingers, I don't get why that would even be a big deal. I honestly feel like it could be very beneficial since it may allow children to better communicate when they are being sexually abused. Our tendency to continually keep knowledge away from children because of our society deeming those things taboo is actually harmful. It's not even as though children that young don't have a very vague idea of what sex is in the first place. I remember me and my friends getting into a conversation about it because we were curious about it back when we were in grade one. Teaching children about sex in a safe and healthy environment should not be a big deal and is generally better than having them find out about it through other means.

Thirdly, the "stereotypical person triggered by everything"? Really? How old are you? 12? Do you seriously believe in that nonsense? I find it odd how you are pretending to be an ally while simultaneously downplaying and invalidating the OP's very valid concerns. The US has never been a place for all people. This is the same country where people spread lies about Haitians and illegal mexican immigrants about them mostly being criminals or about them eating people's pets. This is the same country that is labelling the Queer community as "predators" and Hate crimes them. This is the same country where black people are getting killed off by the police. The same country that is screwing over women's reproduction rights. The same country where you've got Elon Musk doing nazi salutes and Donald Trump blaming everything on DEI even when said things have nothing to do with it. Your country is filled to the brim with hate, so I have no clue where you got the

Because if that were the case then none of this shit would be happening. Hell, Donald Trump would not have won if that were the case. You wouldn't have so many marginalized communities getting all stressed out because of the state of their country if that were the case.

People are going out of their way to try and erase trans people from the community. Just because you are in denial of it doesn't mean that it's not happening. If you are going to come on here just to try and downplay everything because of your own biases that you haven't bothered to address yet, then just leave. You aren't adding anything to the conversation.

technically they're saying that stereotypes are the reason trans people are hated but i don't think that makes it trans peoples fault just people for being ignorant

I strongly believe, that there is a place for all people. So are 99% of the people in the US.
The problem was never the original core of the lgbt community, but those protesting naked in the street and teaching sex ed to 5 year olds. This and the stereotypical "triggered by everything" person is what is stuck in peoples minds. It will be hard to get out of that in the future.

conservatives acting like the left promotes pedophilia is ironic look up priest arrested on google

 

[Winterreise]

mrpeter , Please ignore the trolls

 

[loneloser]

america is fucked and we're all doomed

 

[EvisceratedJester]

technically they're saying that stereotypes are the reason trans people are hated but i don't think that makes it trans peoples fault just people for being ignorant

They are literally using this to blame trans people for their own oppression. They made a claim denying the fact that the government is trying to erase trans people, claim that queer people should be angry at others for "blowing it up that much", and then blamed people in the community for their own oppression while citing shit that isn't even true. The "stereotypical" stuff was presented as things that were actually going on when they really aren't, as I have noted in my other post.

Also, you have no room to say anything about this topic considering the fact that you made that thread where you got people to vote on whether or not trans children should have access to sex reassignment surgery just because you were "bored" and got defensive called out for how untasteful doing that was.

 

[Deleted member 94706]

They are literally using this to blame trans people for their own oppression. They made a claim denying the fact that the government is trying to erase trans people, claim that queer people should be angry at others for "blowing it up that much", and then blamed people in the community for their own oppression while citing shit that isn't even true. The "stereotypical" stuff was presented as things that were actually going on when they really aren't, as I have noted in my other post.

Also, you have no room to say anything about this topic considering the fact that you made that thread where you got people to vote on whether or not trans children should have access to sex reassignment surgery just because you were "bored" and got defensive called out for how untasteful doing that was.

i'm literally agreeing with you also that thread i made was really dumb idk why i made that

 

[ShatteredSerenity]

This is sad and scary. I think there's some small progress in that they aren't going to war on LGB as well, but that's a small consolation when they're attacking everything involving "untraditional" gender identity at once.

Even small changes have impacts. The state department advisory at the start of this thread had changed LGBTQI+ to LGB. I identify as queer and genderqueer, so if I were to travel abroad I would use these advisories to understand what kind of discrimination or hostility I might face in a foreign country. Knowing how accepting a foreign culture is of transgender and nonbinary people is is critically important, because there's massive variation ranging from friendly acceptance in liberal countries to being assaulted and possibly arrested and/or killed. I would be ok with shortening to LGBT as a compromise, but removing T is unacceptable because it prevents the State Department from publishing important information, and the only effect that could have is to put people at risk.

 

[YandereMikuMistress]

I strongly believe, that there is a place for all people. So are 99% of the people in the US.
The problem was never the original core of the lgbt community, but those protesting naked in the street and teaching sex ed to 5 year olds. This and the stereotypical "triggered by everything" person is what is stuck in peoples minds. It will be hard to get out of that in the future.

This is genuinely factual im queer my brothers queer but when ppl generally here my brother's gay or that I am but especially for my brother he gets instantly stereotyped to the extremes you wouldn't even know the guys into men and women but including me I'm also put into these extreme stereotypes that I must hate men and that I must be another dyke trying to be a man like what? It's genuinely disheartening because there's more I could share but it is a delicate topic for many that's for sure, I acknowledge The fact that there's so many bad influences that come out to the algebtq marches and meets and safe spaces you name it,, but unfortunately so many very disturbed and sickos will use the fact that the LGBTQ community is Infact still a viewed as a controversial thing not just from past either
Making us sound as if we are just sick but now oh god so much shit ppl who are already quite conservative are unfortunately more likely to see are community as even worse then how they potentially could have been thinking about it before, with social midea and everything there's an overwhelming ammout of ppl taking advantage of the community's already shaky perception by using our community to exploit and piggy back off so they can enact there own twisted ideas on how what the LGBTQ represents,, I don't think it's okay to let ppl who have sexual fetishes and like to dress us as dogs and get walked around on leashes represent are community in any way, like there's more obviously but I don't have a great amount of time to type rn