Discussion Undetectable Methods

[SITEFAN]

Think this has been discussed here before but are there any undetectable methods that could be used that won't come up in Autopsy after death? Things have been rather grim lately for myself. Wondering is there any way possible so that family members will just think it was an accident?

 

[Nymph]

You'd have to make it look like an accident which is probably more painful and is gonna involve other people in it that will probably end up traumatized. If you take any drugs or do methods like hanging etc.. that's all gonna show in an autopsy. You'd have to do something like get hit by a car, drive into the rail way (ignoring the road lights and that thing that goes down to close off the rail road (??) idk what's it called lol)

 

[SITEFAN]

You'd have to make it look like an accident which is probably more painful and is gonna involve other people in it that will probably end up traumatized. If you take any drugs or do methods like hanging etc.. that's all gonna show in an autopsy. You'd have to do something like get hit by a car, drive into the rail way (ignoring the road lights and that thing that goes down to close off the rail road (??) idk what's it called lol)

Yeah thats what I figured. Are there no Chemicals available that they wouldn't easily detect that could potentially help?

 

[Nymph]

Yeah thats what I figured. Are there no Chemicals available that they wouldn't easily detect that could potentially help?

If you live alone and you have gas stoves you could leave them open as an "accident".

I don't think so, the chemicals probably won't just evaporate.

 

[SITEFAN]

If you live alone and you have gas stoves you could leave them open as an "accident".

I don't think so, the chemicals probably won't just evaporate.

Yeah I do live alone but I heard with natural gas this won't really work anymore or be all that efficient?

 

[I screwed up]

Most chemicals show up in autopsy, so only other method is like accidental shooting urslf or something

 

[signifying nothing]

Falling off whilst trying to take a selfie at the edge of a cliff/tall building/etc.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

Borrow money from a criminal enterprise that is known to use lethal methods to collect or send a message.

 

[kkatt]

If you live alone and you have gas stoves you could leave them open as an "accident".

I don't think so, the chemicals probably won't just evaporate.

Modern gas stoves don't do that but a portable gas heater can.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

Another way I forgot: you can use CO method but in a way that makes it look non suicidal. Many people have never been told of how a running car in a confined space will eventually build up enough CO to kill the person in the confined space. You could put your car if you have one in a poorly ventilated garage or outbuilding , turn it on and then start doing something in the garage - make it look like you are working on something. But it's difficult to CTB by CO method in this way I have heard of numerous failed attempts

 

[kkatt]

Borrow money from a criminal enterprise that is known to use lethal methods to collect or send a message.

I spent a long time mixing with the criminal elements and the majority just want the money and violence doesn't get you the money. The more serious debt collectors that I've met will take the debtor, by force if necessary, chain them to a radiator and let them work off their debt that way(if you get my meaning), then drop then back home like nothing ever happened

 

[signifying nothing]

you can use CO method but in a way that makes it look non suicidal.

Also see a previous post I made about small engines that produce CO.

 

[SITEFAN]

Also see a previous post I made about small engines that produce CO.

Any way to cause a CO leak in my gas heater that way I can just go to sleep next to it on my couch and everything would look like an accident?

 

[pen]

Hi!

Here you go: Fluoroacaetate (FA), the sodium salt of fluoroacetic acid, only detectable with headspace-GC/MS in the non-cleaned earwax.

Bye

 

[SITEFAN]

Hi!

Here you go: Fluoroacaetate (FA), the sodium salt of fluoroacetic acid, only detectable with headspace-GC/MS in the non-cleaned earwax.

Bye

Any further info on this? Seems like this would be near impossible to get a hold of.

 

[signifying nothing]

Any way to cause a CO leak in my gas heater that way I can just go to sleep next to it on my couch and everything would look like an accident?

CO is produced as a result of incomplete combustion of the gas in the heater, so it will depend on the availability of oxygen (from the air) and the design/efficiency of the specific heater.

 

[SITEFAN]

CO is produced as a result of incomplete combustion of the gas in the heater, so it will depend on the availability of oxygen (from the air) and the design/efficiency of the specific heater.

Hmm ok I'll have to investigate with the heater. how about via the hot water heater?

 

[signifying nothing]

Hmm ok I'll have to investigate with the heater. how about via the hot water heater?

Again the amount of CO produced depends on the heater and oxygen supply. A built-in gas hot water heater will probably have a flue/vents that directs the fumes outside, so these would have to be blocked/damaged in order for CO to build up inside.

From www.gassaferegister.co.uk:
Any of the following could be a sign of CO in your home:

• Floppy yellow or orange flame, rather than crisp blue
• Dark, sooty staining on or around gas appliances
• Pilot lights that frequently blow out
• Increased condensation inside windows

 

[SITEFAN]

Again the amount of CO produced depends on the heater and oxygen supply. A built-in gas hot water heater will probably have a flue/vents that directs the fumes outside, so these would have to be blocked/damaged in order for CO to build up inside.

From www.gassaferegister.co.uk:
Any of the following could be a sign of CO in your home:

• Floppy yellow or orange flame, rather than crisp blue
• Dark, sooty staining on or around gas appliances
• Pilot lights that frequently blow out
• Increased condensation inside windows

Hmm ok I see what you mean. Might be more complicated than I was thinking.

 

[signifying nothing]

Hmm ok I see what you mean. Might be more complicated than I was thinking.

Yeah, its not so simple to make it look accidental.

Also, its worth a warning - this CO method could put other people at risk, depending on who might visit/find you. As with the firefighters in that link I shared, CO can kill very quickly.

 

[Endeavour]

A guy in the Uk died when he went for a break "by himself" for a couple of days and "accidentally" cooked his burgers on a BBQ in his camper van.

I think the only way is to use one of the more peaceful methods and stage it as an accident, then hope they'll think it wasn't deliberate.

 

[SITEFAN]

I know this might be painful but how about choking on food? Heard you'll pass out within minutes. I heard it you eat large chunk of steak its possible?

 

[neitherherenorthere]

If you live someplace cold, hypothermia? You could probably get wasted and make it look like an accident.

 

[woknows]

Nitrogen. If someone cleans up afterwards, there will be absolutely no evidence.

 

[Endeavour]

Nitrogen. If someone cleans up afterwards, there will be absolutely no evidence.

Yeah there's some petechiae usually but it's not definitive and it's almost impossible to detect. You just need a willing participant to tidy up. Someone who doesn't mind going to prison if they get caught.

 

[SITEFAN]

Yeah there's some petechiae usually but it's not definitive and it's almost impossible to detect. You just need a willing participant to tidy up. Someone who doesn't mind going to prison if they get caught.

Good luck with that though.

 

[Endeavour]

Good luck with that though.

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[neitherherenorthere]

I'm thinking of starting a service - endeavours portable we-come-to-you nitrogen delivery service. Reasonable prices, no tyre kickers. Bucket kickers only.

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[CatabolicSeed]

That's gonna be really hard. I don't know if this would work, but it's something that I thought of: Tell everyone you have covid before you ctb, could possibly make it so you are never autopsied due to fear of infection and people may assume you died of covid. Again, not sure this would actually work, just throwing it out there.

 

[MrAsclepius]

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