Venting To me, the true insane ones are those who actually want to exist

[FuneralCry]

I feel like one would have to be insane to want to delay their inevitable fate in this cruel and futile existence where there is no limit as to how much one can suffer. No matter what existence itself will always be the true problem and could never be something desirable, I'd find it insane to want to exist as existence is an abomination that causes nothing but harm and suffering, it disgusts me how deluded humans so selfishly procreate even know this world is such a repulsive and evil place yet there are no disadvantages to never existing at all.

The fact that life even exists at all is such a horrific tragedy, only never existing is true perfection to me and I'd always prefer to not exist no matter what, to exist means to suffer so unnecessarily all while risking experiencing much worse suffering at any moment.
Because of how harmful and pointless existence truly is peaceful suicide method options need to be available at all times, to me it'd be such a relief to be able to fall into an eternal sleep. In my case I see suicide as logical to find peace from the burden of existing as a human and prevent all unnecessary suffering as a result, ceasing to exist solves everything for me. I know that I could never be delusional enough to want to suffer for decades just to be tormented by very old age just to die anyway.

 

[333s]

its truly insane for people who get nothing but suffering from existing in this world
and it's just not the same for the majority of people as i learned…
world is very multi-faceted when one can still feel happiness and experience small good things that happen to them
and its not like that for the majority of people on this site including me as i learned ^^'
even if the suffering is the stated fact it depends on the individual to see it as a bad thing or not
there are a lot of people who believe that there's no good without bad
and also many people who believe in the possibility of ethical life (but its far from human obviously)

 

[Myforevercharlie]

Thanks for calling me insane.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Some of us are masochistic. Why so judgmental?

I'm curious. What do you do with your time when not on this site? Do you enjoy anything?

 

[Mirrory Me]

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. -Albert Einstein.

 

[Proteus]

and also many people who believe in the possibility of ethical life (but its far from human obviously)

That's me, I think some people can make the world better than if they didn't exist.

 

[Joker2003]

I personally think that life does have meaning for some people.

Some people are born with normal brains, good genetics, or a predisposition to think positively. These people can generally find things to keep their minds occupied and the thought of suicide never even crosses their minds. Some people stay alive for their family, their career, or some goal they wish to accomplish.

I feel great joy for anyone who can find happiness in this bleak world.

While other people's lives may have meaning-- mine does not. I am Autistic and haven't had a friend in nearly 7 years. I also suffer from physical problems (stomach issues, Raynaud's phenomenon, and a possible neurodegenerative disease).

I contribute nothing to the world with my existence and hope to be free soon.

 

[Ambivalent1]

I personally think that life does have meaning for some people.

Some people are born with normal brains, good genetics, or a predisposition to think positively. These people can generally find things to keep their minds occupied and the thought of suicide never even crosses their minds. Some people stay alive for their family, their career, or some goal they wish to accomplish.

I feel great joy for anyone who can find happiness in this bleak world.

While other people's lives may have meaning-- mine does not. I am Autistic and haven't had a friend in nearly 7 years. I also suffer from physical problems (stomach issues, Raynaud's phenomenon, and a possible neurodegenerative disease).

I contribute nothing to the world with my existence and hope to be free soon.

What is it like to be autistic? I know a college student who has it. She seems fine but has some quirks. She even has some friends.

 

[divinemistress36]

Some of us are masochistic. Why so judgmental?

I'm curious. What do you do with your time when not on this site? Do you enjoy anything?

I wish I was a Masochist so I could love all the pain life throws at me

 

[Ambivalent1]

I wish I was a Masochist so I could love all the pain life throws at me

I kinda do sometimes. It hurts so good

 

[divinemistress36]

I kinda do sometimes. It hurts so good

I wonder If I had a dominatrix whipping me all the time If I would forget about all the emotional pain

 

[Ambivalent1]

I wonder If I had a dominatrix whipping me all the time If I would forget about all the emotional pain

There's always self-flagellation like the religious used to do.

 

[divinemistress36]

There's always self-flagellation like the religious used to do.

Tempting to try

 

[Whale_bones]

You say that you'd find peace in death, and it would be such a relief, but don't you also believe in complete non-existence after death? How can one experience peace, relief, or any sensations at all when they don't exist? I'm just curious because I also think that non-existence is the most likely after-death scenario, and I think about this a lot. I'm not sure if we can even say we "prefer" non-existence; isn't it just… nothing? We can only prefer the idea of it, the concept of it, while we're alive, right?

 

[DEATH IS FREEDOM]

We have stupid laws made up by stupid politicians. There have always been stupid laws in the civilization. That human life expectancy is high and that we are expected to suffer until we die of old age is a cruel and stupid combination. And according to research, humans are only getting dumber and dumber.

 

[Joker2003]

What is it like to be autistic? I know a college student who has it. She seems fine but has some quirks. She even has some friends.

Hello, thank you for asking.

The form of autism I have is known as Asperger's syndrome and it basically affects everything about my life.

I have always been an anxious loner but used to have a few friends back in middle school. In high school, I was bullied for my mannerisms, the way I talk, and for being awkward. I was given the silent treatment, called a retard, and got told to f*ck myself. Now I am very wary around men and tend to dislike them. I wasn't bullied THAT bad, but it permanently damaged my psyche since I'm a soft person.

I like to always plan my day out and have a routine. I sometimes walk in a circle for hours. When I was younger and under stress or sensory overload I would bang my head against the wall. The entire world is overwhelming. There are too many sounds, movements, smells, and textures. Sensory overload feels like every nerve in my body is tense and like I am a fizzy pop ready to burst.

My Verbal IQ tested at 118, but my nonverbal IQ is significantly lower. I have a hard time reading social cues and knowing when to talk and what not to say. I sometimes offend people without realizing why. I have a hard time understanding sarcasm and was VERY naive when I was younger.

I also get obsessed with certain topics to an unnatural degree. I am obsessed with video games, politics, and psychology. I have spent tens of thousands of hours wasting my life on video games, gaming videos, and researching gaming technology.

Currently, I am incredibly lonely and not a single person in my family really understand autism. My family used to believe that vaccines cause autism (which obviously isn't true). I have tried getting a job, going to church, social groups, meeting with old friends, and countless other activities. I always seem to fail no matter what I try.

Basically, being autistic has contributed to my downfall and has ruined my life.

 

[TheSpookyNameGuy]

Does FuneralCry ever respond back on these threads?

no hate just curious is all.

 

[divinemistress36]

Does FuneralCry ever respond back on these threads?

no hate just curious is all.

Rarely

 

[walkingdead2023]

I feel like one would have to be insane to want to delay their inevitable fate in this cruel and futile existence where there is no limit as to how much one can suffer. No matter what existence itself will always be the true problem and could never be something desirable, I'd find it insane to want to exist as existence is an abomination that causes nothing but harm and suffering, it disgusts me how deluded humans so selfishly procreate even know this world is such a repulsive and evil place yet there are no disadvantages to never existing at all.

The fact that life even exists at all is such a horrific tragedy, only never existing is true perfection to me and I'd always prefer to not exist no matter what, to exist means to suffer so unnecessarily all while risking experiencing much worse suffering at any moment.
Because of how harmful and pointless existence truly is peaceful suicide method options need to be available at all times, to me it'd be such a relief to be able to fall into an eternal sleep. In my case I see suicide as logical to find peace from the burden of existing as a human and prevent all unnecessary suffering as a result, ceasing to exist solves everything for me. I know that I could never be delusional enough to want to suffer for decades just to be tormented by very old age just to die anyway.

I agree life is disgusting I describe it as a wild ugly witch with long black nails and sharp teeth.. I literally hate life even in religion life is the most ugly and tiring stage. I don't know what happened after life but I do know that whatever it's better than this. I work so hard, pay bills, deal with daily stresses and I'm not happy. I actually attempted to kms when I was 15 I remember my dad got angry at me instead of taking me to therapy he yelled at me and made me feel bad. I wish I did die back then. For those who loves life, I don't judge them maybe they are fooling themselves or maybe they are just going with the flow..

 

[TheSpookyNameGuy]

Rarely

I gathered lol

 

[BlessedBeTheFlame]

I'm sorry, but how is everyone here so obsessed with thinking this way? I'm here for killing myself, not to spit some drivel about how all of humanity shouldn't want to live. It just reminds me of the logic of the main character in The Cremator, who just ends up organizing a genocide and killing his family, because he sees death as a form of salvation. People here are quick to put up the word "pro-choice" as a cover, but then admonish everyone choosing a different way, something I've never seen an abortion rights activist do. If any authority can force someone to live, because they see the desire to die as insane, then they can force that exact person to die, because they see living as insane. For a group of people, who are consistently misunderstood, I find it weird that you refuse to understand the intentions behind everyone else and just chalk this up to insanity, self-gaslighting or Stockholm Syndrome. The last one btw doesn't exist and was invented by swedish pig cops, go look it up.

 

[Pluto]

 

[ijustwishtodie]

You say that you'd find peace in death, and it would be such a relief, but don't you also believe in complete non-existence after death? How can one experience peace, relief, or any sensations at all when they don't exist? I'm just curious because I also think that non-existence is the most likely after-death scenario, and I think about this a lot. I'm not sure if we can even say we "prefer" non-existence; isn't it just… nothing? We can only prefer the idea of it, the concept of it, while we're alive, right?

I think the idea of permanent non existence being peaceful can only be true when thinking about it in comparison to living instead of thinking about it in a vacuum. It's more so the idea that being permanently non existent in comparison to the alternative outcome where you are born and hence suffer. Additionally, the peace comes from the idea that, once somebody is alive, if their life is mostly suffering and will continue to be until they age to death, by dying as early as possible, they miss out on all of that suffering hence can be considered to be in peace

Of course a non existent being can't actually feel peace but an existent being can feel the cessation of peace. The peace here is relative

Does FuneralCry ever respond back on these threads?

no hate just curious is all.

She used to in the past but stopped as she knew that it would lead to nowhere and that people would still have the same views that they currently do

 

[Whale_bones]

I think the idea of permanent non existence being peaceful can only be true when thinking about it in comparison to living instead of thinking about it in a vacuum. It's more so the idea that being permanently non existent in comparison to the alternative outcome where you are born and hence suffer. Additionally, the peace comes from the idea that, once somebody is alive, if their life is mostly suffering and will continue to be until they age to death, by dying as early as possible, they miss out on all of that suffering hence can be considered to be in peace

Of course a non existent being can't actually feel peace but an existent being can feel the cessation of peace. The peace here is relative

Yeah, I very much relate to that part, as my conscious existence is predominantly suffering and the concept of nonexistence appears peaceful to me too. I asked FC specifically because many of her posts center around this idea of nonexistence, and she writes often about how only never existing in the first place is true perfection to her, how she is always desiring nonexistence, etc. For her it seems like a very active, direct thing rather than something that's relative, if that makes sense.

I'm someone who also thinks it's most likely that consciousness ceases at death, so in the many long hours I've had to think about death and the concept of death, my mind can't help but try to understand the idea of nonexistence. But I quickly reach the point where I just don't think the human mind can even begin to grasp it, and I think we can only view it as a sort of lack of life, or what would be there instead of life. I have to compare it to the consciousness I know and understand, like you mentioned.

So when I try to think of desiring it on its own, especially in the ways FC talks about, my mind pretty much goes in a circle and I end up back at square one, feeling like there's no way for my mind to grasp it.

I feel a little weird talking about FC in third person, but it's just because she doesn't usually reply in threads, so rather than continue to ask her questions directly beyond my first post, I will direct my post at the person I'm responding to.