those with cognitive defects or decline and lack of ability to plan an effective suicide

[pachamacha]

are they just fucked at this point? any thoughts on those who can reason with capacity they want death, in countries where legal bans on assisting them to die with dignity, what happens in these cases

cognitive functioning severely impacted and safe suicides require certain level of functioning to plan and carry out, they know their condition is going to worsen, what about those who's carers and insistutions restrict their freedom and privacy

 

[ijustwishtodie]

This is the first post on here where I actually see somebody acknowledging this. I feel so isolated and alone on here because people here are able to access a relatively peaceful suicide method like SN and, from my personal experience, people here seem to be so confused at seeing those who say that they are unable to ctb. I got questions on here by users repeatedly at why I couldn't access a better suicide method than drowning (and I don't even think I can access this either) and, when I try to explain my situation to them, they just never reply back. It hurts so much, it really does.

In my case, my cognitive defect is autism which makes me suffer significantly in life. Because of this, I am unable to understand basic things. People think that I'm smart because I'm a university student doing a hard degree but trust me when I say that academics is the only thing I'm good at. Outside of this, I'm mentally stupid and I don't say that in a self loathing way but rather as a fact of reality.

Additionally, and I'd say that this is the bigger factor for me as to why I'm unable to ctb, I'm living with extremely overprotective parents and I don't really have any autonomy here. Because of how my parents are asian and were raised in pakistan, they have a different mentality on parenting than people in the west do. They believe that being fully authoritarian is within my best interests and that they have the right to have control over me due to their religion saying so. If I could, I would just order SN and ctb already but it isn't that easy for me. Also, I can't ever be independent in the future due to my autism.

As for what I'd do in the future, I think that I may have to take the risk of getting SN and some anti emetics. I'd just risk it all on me being lucky enough tbh... even merely getting it is a massive risk for me, nevermind the actual attempt itself. If I fail to obtain the SN, I may instead have to run away and drown myself but I'd rather hope on me somehow being able to get the SN as I don't really know how to drown in a way that would cause me to actually die.

I wrote so much here but I honestly needed to vent about my situation because, at times, it feels like I'm alone here. But your post made me acknowledge that there are people out there who actually understand me. Thank you, I really needed this

 

[Namelesa]

This is the first post on here where I actually see somebody acknowledging this. I feel so isolated and alone on here because people here are able to access a relatively peaceful suicide method like SN and, from my personal experience, people here seem to be so confused at seeing those who say that they are unable to ctb. I got questions on here by users repeatedly at why I couldn't access a better suicide method than drowning (and I don't even think I can access this either) and, when I try to explain my situation to them, they just never reply back. It hurts so much, it really does.

In my case, my cognitive defect is autism which makes me suffer significantly in life. Because of this, I am unable to understand basic things. People think that I'm smart because I'm a university student doing a hard degree but trust me when I say that academics is the only thing I'm good at. Outside of this, I'm mentally stupid and I don't say that in a self loathing way but rather as a fact of reality.

Additionally, and I'd say that this is the bigger factor for me as to why I'm unable to ctb, I'm living with extremely overprotective parents and I don't really have any autonomy here. Because of how my parents are asian and were raised in pakistan, they have a different mentality on parenting than people in the west do. They believe that being fully authoritarian is within my best interests and that they have the right to have control over me due to their religion saying so. If I could, I would just order SN and ctb already but it isn't that easy for me. Also, I can't ever be independent in the future due to my autism.

As for what I'd do in the future, I think that I may have to take the risk of getting SN and some anti emetics. I'd just risk it all on me being lucky enough tbh... even merely getting it is a massive risk for me, nevermind the actual attempt itself. If I fail to obtain the SN, I may instead have to run away and drown myself but I'd rather hope on me somehow being able to get the SN as I don't really know how to drown in a way that would cause me to actually die.

I wrote so much here but I honestly needed to vent about my situation because, at times, it feels like I'm alone here. But your post made me acknowledge that there are people out there who actually understand me. Thank you, I really needed this

I am not able to access much either sadly as I am literally trapped in the house I live in cus of my parents. I have no access to any outside method and my only hope now is maybe be able to do a partial hanging but I don't even know if I can tie a slipknot. I tried doing it last night but I haven't figured it out yet. I also have autism which has made me excel at certain things and completely stupid at other things.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I am not able to access much either sadly as I am literally trapped in the house I live in cus of my parents. I have no access to any outside method and my only hope now is maybe be able to do a partial hanging but I don't even know if I can tie a slipknot. I tried doing it last night but I haven't figured it out yet. I also have autism which has made me excel at certain things and completely stupid at other things.

I'm sorry for your suffering. It's so unfair at how some of us are unable to ctb because of our personal circumstances. Some of us really are trapped in existence unfortunately and it hurts so much to see others here also be trapped in existence but that's just reality unfortunately. Reality is cruel. In my case, I can't do hanging as it comes back to my autism being unable to understand basic things... in this case it'd be knots. I don't know how to tie knots. So far in life, all my autism has done to serve me positively is made me do well in academics without trying but I've reached the point where I'd have to put in lots of hard work to do well and I don't have the motivation to put in this work since I never had any motivation to do anything in life in the first place.

Our odds are immensely stacked against us but, nonetheless, I hope that you manage to find peace soon from this hellish existence

 

[pachamacha]

i also have autism and adhd and wasn't sure how to go about the post so third personed it

i can't tie knots either and i don't know how to order dark web, my cognitive function is worsening from poor mental health and living arrengments i am watched 24hrs a day my autism has me institutionlised over 20years

i recently put two and two together learning and applying new information, sourcing adapting to circumstance, the therory is there but my brain can't understand

i saw an issue of step by step planning, like learning knots, i had video on slow mo pausing frequently, yet was not able to succed learning a knot, multi steps involed with methods my brain holds ine information at a time and linking things together makes my brain go blank in a daze or jumbled incorehent thoughts, never make progress on formulating a plan

those with dementia or a brain injury, i start to see something with suicide, the living situations for those impacted so bad living in institutions and isolated at home no social support no way to function for house care self care money mental health worsen, there's a multi factor that worsens the worse it gets suicide seems like a task maybe you could of managed before loss of functioning

losing capacity capatilist society have you trapped only way to escape and find peace that's forbidden suicide will only worsen the reasons you have no freedom and autonomy, i can't speak in sentances anymore i can't plan simple tasks the cognitive decline i can't plan an effective suicide
i want some kind of an idiots guide to suicide

methods like dumbed down so much my shitty brain can understand the methods, risks and what could go wrong - and how to avoid that, things to consider when it's time for success rate and ease of suffering, how to source materials, alterations for adapting in personal circumstance

like a wikihow level easy read, it's too complex to understand, i saw on rules when joining nonlearning disability, there's some line here i think is also related to the topic of my thread, i have capacity and the intellect to fully take in and understand the situation and choice of death, i also am severely impacted with adaptive functioning and am institutionlised my brain function and quality of life will get worse, i assume learning disabled means don't understand what death really means and is it in best interests, i both understand wanting death to relieve years ahead of suffering and i am exhausted and ready to go now, i also am functioning at very low levels social education occupation baeic life skills, i am not sure how hard a line that rule stands i don't want to be banned

 

[FuneralCry]

I just find it so cruel and horrific how euthanasia is denied with humans trapped in situations of extreme suffering and are enslaved in this existence, it's just so terrifying to me how trying to die can go wrong and lead to way worse agony as a result in this existence that was imposed in the first place, I just wish there's acceptance towards the personal choice to not exist instead of humans forced to suffer no matter what, I just wish for the option to die in peace in a guaranteed way and never exist ever again.

 

[divinemistress36]

I have a brain injury one of the reasons I want to ctb is cognitive decline . Its hard to even plan ctb or anything

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

i haven't had the ability to plan or even decide on one method yet, severe adhd addictions and other problems . i wish i could just call someone to come over and shoot me 10 times in the head . but they made that a crime . many people have guns here in the U.S. and it's ridiculously easy for someone else to make sure i'm dead by shooting me in the read repeatedly if need be.