Silent_cries

Silent_cries

I wish I could delete my trauma...
Aug 10, 2021
1,343
Not hating on NT's by any means. Just trying to find ppl to relate to really.

The thing I wish they understood the most is that we're not NT's. Idk if it's just me, but I feel like nt's tend to think that we're capable of doing everything as easily as them and thus gives us the same expectations as other nt's thus making us feel awful about ourselves when we're unable to reach their expectations. It has happened to me anyway. I just wish they'd understand that our brains are wired differently. I'm not going to be able to breeze through my daily chores as easily as a nt and it's not my fault! Like seriously, I rly wish there was a way to get them to understand this. >_<
 
  • Like
  • Hugs
Reactions: UnrulyNightmare, card1nal, lurker299 and 11 others
sserafim

sserafim

brighter than the sun, that’s just me
Sep 13, 2023
9,013
That being different is not being wrong
 
  • Like
Reactions: scarlet-pixie, Cinnamorolls, untothedepths and 8 others
Silent_cries

Silent_cries

I wish I could delete my trauma...
Aug 10, 2021
1,343
  • Like
Reactions: lurker299, scarlet-pixie, Cinnamorolls and 4 others
Abyssal

Abyssal

Probably gonna die soon maybe?
Nov 26, 2023
1,331
"we can't call people special needs anymore we have to call them ___" jokes are unfunny and out you as a complete asshole. Stop treating the world's most vulnerable as a challenge to your old fashioned beliefs.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bugs_for_brains, scarlet-pixie, untothedepths and 1 other person
Lirisu

Lirisu

piss drinker
Jun 30, 2024
17
This is a weird one but, being neurodivergent isn't cute or quirky.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cinnamorolls, untothedepths, KuriGohan&Kamehameha and 5 others
Dark Moon

Dark Moon

Wizard
Sep 21, 2022
686
Understanding and accepting that I'm different and not typically the norm. I don't perform to society expectations.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cinnamorolls, untothedepths, KuriGohan&Kamehameha and 4 others
LaVieEnRose

LaVieEnRose

Angelic
Jul 23, 2022
4,213
That they should recognize their profoundly good fortune at having been born neurotypical.
 
  • Like
Reactions: lurker299, Cinnamorolls, Hollowman and 7 others
FERAL_FRENZY

FERAL_FRENZY

Legionnaire <3
Apr 18, 2024
76
That we aren't mind readers. If you want something done, be direct about it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cinnamorolls, untothedepths, leavingthesoultrap and 5 others
ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
4,819
That some neurodivergent people are living such awful lives due to society that society should owe them euthanasia. Instead of making life harder for neirodivergents, they should try and make it easier
 
  • Like
Reactions: UnrulyNightmare, lurker299, scarlet-pixie and 7 others
rednights

rednights

Member
Jun 5, 2024
45
That the majority of us are not faking or exaggerating for attention. It does happen, yes, but uneducated people deciding for us what is or is not "real" helps no one.

Makes me want to just keep to myself all the time.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cinnamorolls, KuriGohan&Kamehameha and Praestat_Mori
trappedinthislife

trappedinthislife

Student
May 13, 2024
107
That we don't have full control over who we are. Trust me if I can just be normal I would.
 
  • Like
  • Hugs
Reactions: UnrulyNightmare, lurker299, Cinnamorolls and 5 others
yellowjester

yellowjester

Experienced
Jun 2, 2024
299
The burden of having to deal with an autistic person (which is usually no more than a minor inconveniance) is nothing compared to the bruden of being of being an autistic person who's doing everything they can to not be a burden on neurotypicals.
 
  • Like
  • Love
  • Aww..
Reactions: ms_beaverhousen, lurker299, scarlet-pixie and 6 others
K

Kavka

Student
Jun 11, 2024
141
That you shouldn't judge how I'm feeling based on my non-verbal behaviour, how I function, my appearance, or my lack of or incongruent visible emotions. Just listen to what I'm actually saying.

It's so frustrating when I finally work up the courage to say I'm not feeling well, only to have people brush it off because I'm not visibly emotional. I once talked to a "professional" about my suicidal thoughts and the next time I saw her she said I was looking much better and was happy for me, even though I said my circumstances, mood and thoughts were still the same. I'd gotten a haircut and slept well for a few nights, so I probably looked like the handsome guy I can be, but I was so confused by this interaction.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ms_beaverhousen, scarlet-pixie, Cinnamorolls and 3 others
Silent_cries

Silent_cries

I wish I could delete my trauma...
Aug 10, 2021
1,343
I just read everything y'all wrote and holy shit I relate so much! We all really are just misunderstood people :( And yes, being neurodivergent rly is awful. I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cinnamorolls, Praestat_Mori and eatantz
dietcokecan

dietcokecan

The Cosmos is all that is or was or ever will be.
Jun 25, 2024
33
That I'm aware of how hollow and pitiful my existence is and it tears me up inside every moment of every day.
 
  • Like
  • Hugs
  • Aww..
Reactions: ms_beaverhousen, Cinnamorolls, Hollowman and 3 others
eatantz

eatantz

I luv dolls
Nov 4, 2023
559
I wish they would believe my suffering, people around me just think I'm being overdramatic when I'm having meltdowns or feeling overstimulated. They act confused when I break down over things they can't comprehend. I wish they would accept the flaws and listen to my voice instead of berating me
 
  • Like
  • Hugs
Reactions: Cinnamorolls, untothedepths, ijustwishtodie and 1 other person
sugarb

sugarb

thief of silent dreams
Jun 14, 2024
798
Not hating on NT's by any means. Just trying to find ppl to relate to really.

The thing I wish they understood the most is that we're not NT's. Idk if it's just me, but I feel like nt's tend to think that we're capable of doing everything as easily as them and thus gives us the same expectations as other nt's thus making us feel awful about ourselves when we're unable to reach their expectations. It has happened to me anyway. I just wish they'd understand that our brains are wired differently. I'm not going to be able to breeze through my daily chores as easily as a nt and it's not my fault! Like seriously, I rly wish there was a way to get them to understand this. >_<
That ND people expressing symptoms they aren't comfortable with- bad hygiene, clinginess, sensitivity, outbursts and other social faux pas- deserve just as much kindness/empathy as the ND people they like or find entertaining.

NDs aren't completely innocent of this but explaining the idea of "you should try to be as nice to everyone as reasonably possible even if they're an obese low functioning autistic dude with a Sonic plushie who smells like tuna" to some NTs is uncannily similar to talking to a brick wall
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cinnamorolls, KuriGohan&Kamehameha and Praestat_Mori
R

ryba

Member
Apr 13, 2024
20
just because we're "abnormal" doesn't mean we're not still people. especially when people know about it, you either get infantilized or made into a pariah. there's no in between.
 
  • Like
Reactions: scarlet-pixie, Cinnamorolls and Praestat_Mori
leavingthesoultrap

leavingthesoultrap

(ᴗ_ ᴗ。)
Nov 25, 2023
1,212
There should be more awareness about level 1 autism. It's a regular disability.
In my country it's classified only as having a 15% work impairment. 🙄
 
  • Like
Reactions: sserafim, scarlet-pixie, Cinnamorolls and 2 others
Arachno

Arachno

oh no :(
Apr 10, 2023
242
That neurodivergence has MANY forms, I feel many people around me don't know this. You know, the whole "you don't look autistic, you don't look like you have ADHD" thing.
 
  • Like
Reactions: UnrulyNightmare, Cinnamorolls, ijustwishtodie and 2 others
Throwawayacc3

Throwawayacc3

Freedom
Mar 4, 2024
1,387
That neurodivergence has MANY forms, I feel many people around me don't know this. You know, the whole "you don't look autistic, you don't look like you have ADHD" thing.
This. People think autism is basically Down syndrome and that's it.

I had cancer and got operated on but you would know by just looking at me.

That sort of talk is neurotypical nonsense which is the masses.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cinnamorolls, ijustwishtodie, Arachno and 1 other person
KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,704
By definition, we are gonna have repetitive behaviours and restricted interests, or not experience emotions or social cues in a NT way. This might come off as strange, cringey annoying, or even harmful, but we can't help being hyper fixated on a particular topic or sounding like a broken record. I am sure I repeat myself often and my long posts are annoying, but this is how I communicate and I don't really know how to convey my thoughts any other way.

Just because we don't bond in the exact same ways NTs do, or may be uncomfortable with certain types of body language and physical touch, often displaying altered sexuality or dysphoria as well, doesn't make us monsters undeserving of love. At the core of autism is experiencing and processing the world in a way that is fundamentally unique compared to a neurotypical POV. And even then, it varies so much between autistic people, that sweeping generalisations and stereotypes don't really do our struggles justice.

That ND people expressing symptoms they aren't comfortable with- bad hygiene, clinginess, sensitivity, outbursts and other social faux pas- deserve just as much kindness/empathy as the ND people they like or find entertaining.

NDs aren't completely innocent of this but explaining the idea of "you should try to be as nice to everyone as reasonably possible even if they're an obese low functioning autistic dude with a Sonic plushie who smells like tuna" to some NTs is uncannily similar to talking to a brick wall

Unfortunately the latter type of autistic person is often propped up as a laughing stock/lolcow for NT people to humiliate and mock. Think of Chris Chan type figures who get manipulated and beated down for years for entertainment, then everyone wonders why they completely lost the plot as of recently. They were harassed for years and no one cared because the wider society thinks it's amusing to harass autistic people if we are "cringe" and have "childish" interests like anime or games.
 
  • Like
  • Hugs
Reactions: Cinnamorolls, sugarb and Throwawayacc3
sugarb

sugarb

thief of silent dreams
Jun 14, 2024
798
By definition, we are gonna have repetitive behaviours and restricted interests, or not experience emotions or social cues in a NT way. This might come off as strange, cringey annoying, or even harmful, but we can't help being hyper fixated on a particular topic or sounding like a broken record. I am sure I repeat myself often and my long posts are annoying, but this is how I communicate and I don't really know how to convey my thoughts any other way.

Just because we don't bond in the exact same ways NTs do, or may be uncomfortable with certain types of body language and physical touch, often displaying altered sexuality or dysphoria as well, doesn't make us monsters undeserving of love. At the core of autism is experiencing and processing the world in a way that is fundamentally unique compared to a neurotypical POV. And even then, it varies so much between autistic people, that sweeping generalisations and stereotypes don't really do our struggles justice.



Unfortunately the latter type of autistic person is often propped up as a laughing stock/lolcow for NT people to humiliate and mock. Think of Chris Chan type figures who get manipulated and beated down for years for entertainment, then everyone wonders why they completely lost the plot as of recently. They were harassed for years and no one cared because the wider society thinks it's amusing to harass autistic people if we are "cringe" and have "childish" interests like anime or games.

No worries, I like reading and writing long posts. Easier to get all the thoughts out that way.

Anywho-

I often wonder why there's so little activism on behalf of autistics.

I mean, we really have a shit time of it. Here're some disturbing statistics I saw-


"Studies have shown that up to 66% of autistic adults have thought about taking their own life, and an alarming 35% have attempted suicide. Around 1% of people in the UK are autistic, yet up to 15% of people hospitalised after attempting suicide have a diagnosis of autism."

Case in point- you and I on this website.


"There is a small but growing literature suggesting than individuals with ASD may have an increased risk of mortality compared to the general population (Woolfenden et al. 2012). For example, in a Danish cohort of 341 individuals with ASD followed from 1960 to 2006, individuals with ASD died at twice the expected rate of the general population (Mouridesen et al., 2008). In this study, there were no differences in mortality risk between those with ASD and intellectual disability (ID) compared to those with ASD without ID, with frequent causes of death including epilepsy, infectious diseases, and accidents."


"Research indicates that sexual violence affects about 30% of women in the general population and between two to three times as much for autistic women."

That's roughly 6 to 9 out of 10. Happened to my girlfriend. Absolutely revolting numbers.

"63% of children with autism bullied."

Again- absolutely revolting.


"Autistic people are four times more likely to be lonely than the neurotypical population and as many as 79% of autistic people report feeling socially isolated."

No surprise there.

Related- autistics often struggle with dating and intimacy to some degree or another due to lacking NT social skills. In American culture, where romance and sex are extremely visible and set as a requirement to be normal, this is doubly painful. Autistic floundering in that sea of ambiguity is quickly labeled weird, clingy, crazy, a red flag, incel-ish, creepy, etc.

In light of all this- why is no-one marching for us?
 
Last edited:
  • Love
  • Like
Reactions: scarlet-pixie, Cinnamorolls and KuriGohan&Kamehameha
untothedepths

untothedepths

ego death, then death
Mar 20, 2023
583
I'm sorry if im not answering the question directly, but its been what I think about, and its what ill have to face yet again.... I wish I knew why some people just naturally hate me. Like, I get Im ugly looking and I come off as awkward, but Ill not even exchange over 50 words with someone else and they'll just treat me differently from other people. It hurts, so much. Its not that I even want to be friends with everyone, i just dont like how im 100% they hate me. Its their tone, the way they look at me, the way they always seem angry if i even say one thing. its not like at that point i want to even be around them, im pretty much forced to sometimes.
 
  • Hugs
  • Like
Reactions: sancta-simplicitas and Cinnamorolls
Cinnamorolls

Cinnamorolls

Student
Apr 28, 2024
148
Dear NTs: me being quiet, introverted, and not being able to socialize much doesn't mean I don't like you or think I'm better than you. I've been mistaken for being an arrogant, stuck-up person so many times in life just because I can't socialize normally, when in fact I have quite low self-esteem.
 
  • Like
Reactions: scarlet-pixie
Saturn_

Saturn_

Arcanist
Apr 22, 2024
423
I would rather be called a slur than be told I "have the silly wacky evil stimmy autism". Like I would genuinely take less offense to the former than the latter. It feels grossly patronizing to me. Reminds me of how my special ed teachers would talk down to me and pretend to take interest in what I would talk about. This weird TikTok zoomer baby talk makes me so uncomfortable. I also hate when I have told people online that I am autistic, and they INSIST on using tone indicators on me, and they label all my interests as "hyperfixations" -- God I hate that word so much. It just takes the passion and the life out of what I love. Why can't I just say I like this thing, or I love that thing? An emotion as pure and simple as interest or passion ISN'T a symptom to a broader issue. We can often be more passionate about our interests, but it feels weirdly... segregating that what I like has to have an entirely new label than from what everyone else likes.

I don't really feel comforted by online autistic spaces either, at least nowadays. Many of them operate off of the same arbitrary social norms and hierarchies like everywhere else, and are breeding grounds for masking, insecurity and social anxiety. They preach diversity and self-expression, yet you are encouraged to think and talk and act the exact same way. They operate in strict uniformity and the soapbox pleads for individuality are merely a smokescreen. If you don't, you aren't just weird, oh no no -- you're unforgivable. You did something horrible. People should cut ties with you because there is no room for improvement, and you're forcefully exiled from your support network. So I don't feel comforted by neurotypicals, nor my own neurodivergent siblings, sadly.
 
  • Aww..
  • Like
Reactions: ms_beaverhousen, KuriGohan&Kamehameha and sugarb
scarlet-pixie

scarlet-pixie

1/12/2024
Apr 30, 2024
22
I really wish people would just listen to the words that i'm actually saying.
Feels far too common that people just straight up ignore me, or insert their own meaning onto my words, and then of course when things naturally go awry because of it it's always my fault.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: FERAL_FRENZY, KuriGohan&Kamehameha and sugarb

Similar threads