this life is not worth living

[Arrow]

i'm starting to have less and less hope for the future. when i look around myself and reflect on the kind of person i am, it feels like mostly darkness lies ahead of me. this life i have lived so far has not been worth it and i don't know if it ever will be.

when i see all the pain and suffering in the world, that a lot of people out there have to go through, and when i think about all the pain i've had to endure in my life, i can only come to the conclusion that not only is this life not worth living, but having children in and of itself is quite possibly the most evil thing anyone could ever do. no one should have a right to force someone to exist in a world like this, it's the greatest injustice imaginable. if i could choose, despite the many good things that have happened to me, to never have been born, i would choose that, i think. also i'm not exactly suicidal at the moment but i have plenty of reasons to be.

 

[Green Destiny]

I'm right there with you my friend. If I could have chosen to not have been conceived and brought into this life then I would seriously consider it.

 

[madbananas]

Same here. I also wish I'd never been born. I'm sorry your life has brought you to this point.

 

[kinzokukae]

i completely agree - it's so cruel to bring a child into this shitty world and then simply expect them to want to keep living on. not everyone has a great childhood, or fun experiences, nice friends, anything that gives them a purpose to live on. why should we be pressured into staying in a world that has done nothing but torture us?

 

[Superdeterminist]

i'm starting to have less and less hope for the future. when i look around myself and reflect on the kind of person i am, it feels like mostly darkness lies ahead of me. this life i have lived so far has not been worth it and i don't know if it ever will be.

when i see all the pain and suffering in the world, that a lot of people out there have to go through, and when i think about all the pain i've had to endure in my life, i can only come to the conclusion that not only is this life not worth living, but having children in and of itself is quite possibly the most evil thing anyone could ever do. no one should have a right to force someone to exist in a world like this, it's the greatest injustice imaginable. if i could choose, despite the many good things that have happened to me, to never have been born, i would choose that, i think. also i'm not exactly suicidal at the moment but i have plenty of reasons to be.

I wholeheartedly agree. Except apropos of your antinatalist point, I would add that we should never condemn people who do choose to have children, because many people do find ways to enjoy life, cope with their pain, and to live comfortably despite the limitless suffering. As you know, there are pro-lifers, just as there are those like you and I who want to quit the game. Their wishes must also be respected, as I'm sure you'd agree. As well, the urge to procreate is an extremely powerful one evolutionarily instilled within us, so it takes a LOT to ignore this urge to conceive, and for many it's simply impossible.

If euthanasia were to be commercialised/destigmatised, so many countless souls would be able to depart in peace and with dignity. There are certainly ways to die which entail no pain, it's simply a matter of science and refining the technology. Already, we have Dr. Nitschke's proposed Sarco device, which is putatively completely pain-free and has even been reported by some as a euphoric way to go. We could hire people to oversee the proper lawful usage of such a device, and let people who just want to go, go.

There must be a right to die, just as there is a right to live. We owe it to everyone who is struggling with more than they can or wish to bear, at least until such a time - in the impossibly distant future no doubt - that we've truly mastered all fields and wiped suffering from the universe completely (it's theoretically possible). The means of pain mitigation we have today are noble in their efforts, but ultimately inadequate for so many.

So to those who work towards ending suffering as we know it - by whatever measure - the deepest respect is owed. But, it's not an obligation we have as living creatures to all struggle for this utopia. We must not be shackled to existence, that is a moral failure.

 

[Arrow]

There must be a right to die, just as there is a right to live.

indeed

 

[Bct]

Me too. I feel hopeless with my future and can't see how my life is worth living.

Even if somehow I'm able to live longer and have a partner, I have decided not to have any children because I'm not a good parent and can't see how they're deserve to live in this world of suffering. I still respect anyone who wants to have children though, it's their own right.

 

[MeriDeath]

Life is shitty that's true but people think life is sacred and that's why every thought/attempt of suicide leads to cups knocking on your door or other people telling you to call this hotline number or blah blah blah. When the right time comes people will finally comprehend that dying is an essential part of life and every human has the right to take it's own life and no it doesn't mean we're being irrational or that we still have something to live for. Leaving us here to die while we're still alive is the cruelest thing one can do. And yet they keep doing that (the government, parents, cups, hospitals, etc) Anyways, I feel ya.

 

[kaz]

I agree, especially with the children's part

 

[mediocre]

I am in the same place. I especially hate those assholes who say "don't like your life? well change it!". I am in worsening physical pain how can I change that? Especially when doctors refuse to help you and you are left waiting ages to see a specialist. And those are just my physical problems. Even if I did feel well I don't know if I'd want to live then either..