J

jasmineck

Member
Mar 11, 2023
26
Does thiopental IV injection taken orally work or not? Does anyone have confirmed knowledge about that?
 
  • Hugs
Reactions: Talvikki
Sunset Limited

Sunset Limited

I believe in Sunset Limited
Jul 29, 2019
1,291
A member took 1 gram of oral thiopental as a test. He only reported dizziness. 1 gram of oral N can be dangerous. This suggests that oral thiopental is not as strong as oral N. Of course, if the thiopental is pure.

In short, we do not have enough oral thiopental overdose case reports. This seems like a gamble.

IV thiopental works well. 5 grams is enough.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mayonaise, rotciv and Talvikki
J

jasmineck

Member
Mar 11, 2023
26
But how to do iv
I read in quora that it is choked to death, not a peaceful death
 
sevennn

sevennn

Mage
Sep 11, 2024
536
But how to do iv
I read in quora that it is choked to death, not a peaceful death
IV is difficult if you don't have medical knowledge. i looked up and too difficult for me
 
  • Hugs
Reactions: Talvikki
Talvikki

Talvikki

VIKKI
Nov 18, 2021
809
This study explains that pentothal (thiopental) has about half the toxicity when administered orally or rectally compared to nembutal (pentobarbital). This means that a larger dose of thiopental is required to achieve similar effects.

https://academic.oup.com/bja/article/16/1/1/261522
 
  • Like
Reactions: rotciv
rotciv

rotciv

Something In The Way
Mar 25, 2023
633
A member took 1 gram of oral thiopental as a test. He only reported dizziness. 1 gram of oral N can be dangerous. This suggests that oral thiopental is not as strong as oral N. Of course, if the thiopental is pure.

In short, we do not have enough oral thiopental overdose case reports. This seems like a gamble.

IV thiopental works well. 5 grams is enough.

Well said.

But overall Thiopental isnt a good method for normal people.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Talvikki and Sunset Limited
Sunset Limited

Sunset Limited

I believe in Sunset Limited
Jul 29, 2019
1,291
Well said.

But overall Thiopental isnt a good method for normal people.
For IV route I would prefer thiopental instead of propofol. Thiopental is also hard to find. The best drug for IV route right now is anestofol. 5% lidocaine, 5% propofol. Since it contains lidocaine there is no pain in the injection. It is enough to push 25 cc of anestofol. But I still wonder how the Russians combined lidocaine and propofol.
 
  • Like
Reactions: rotciv
rotciv

rotciv

Something In The Way
Mar 25, 2023
633
For IV route I would prefer thiopental instead of propofol. Thiopental is also hard to find. The best drug for IV route right now is anestofol. 5% lidocaine, 5% propofol. Since it contains lidocaine there is no pain in the injection. It is enough to push 25 cc of anestofol. But I still wonder how the Russians combined lidocaine and propofol.
From all my readings due to the ph of thiopental a pure solution will burn as hell.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sunset Limited
Sunset Limited

Sunset Limited

I believe in Sunset Limited
Jul 29, 2019
1,291
From all my readings due to the ph of thiopental a pure solution will burn as hell.
I can dilute it enough because I have an injection system. 7 grams of thiopental in 150 cc of fluid works. Safer than propofol. Propofol is metabolized very quickly.

Drip infusion with 10 grams of thiopental in 50 cc of 0.9 saline also works. Slow infusion is a good solution for pain.

I am still curious about anestofol. A member was mentioning that it is very easy to buy. Anestofol is better than N for IV route also.
 
  • Like
Reactions: rotciv
rotciv

rotciv

Something In The Way
Mar 25, 2023
633
I can dilute it enough because I have an injection system. 7 grams of thiopental in 150 cc of fluid works. Safer than propofol. Propofol is metabolized very quickly.

Drip infusion with 10 grams of thiopental in 50 cc of 0.9 saline also works. Slow infusion is a good solution for pain.

I am still curious about anestofol. A member was mentioning that it is very easy to buy. Anestofol is better than N for IV route also.

You know better than me.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sunset Limited
Sunset Limited

Sunset Limited

I believe in Sunset Limited
Jul 29, 2019
1,291
You know better than me.
Thanks. I also like sharing what I know, just like you. Actually, I should be gone a long time ago. I couldn't do this to my mother. I'm trapped here now. I don't know how long I can go on.
 
J

J&L383

Mage
Jul 18, 2023
541
IV is difficult if you don't have medical knowledge. i looked up and too difficult for me
You could study to be a venipuncturist (the guys who draw the blood at the doctor's office, that's all they do, don't need a doctor's license or anything) and then you would know how to do an IV.
 
  • Like
Reactions: sevennn

Similar threads

T
Replies
14
Views
423
Suicide Discussion
ThisIsMe1357
T
finishLana
Replies
4
Views
154
Suicide Discussion
Willy Wonka
Willy Wonka
J
Replies
5
Views
240
Suicide Discussion
jasmineck
J
W
Replies
10
Views
321
Suicide Discussion
athiestjoe
athiestjoe