Method Things that raise N's toxic level?

[Anonymous 4]

Hi, so alcohol can raise the toxic level of N, keeping in mind in a small does coz if you down a bottle of whisky you'll vomit.

Is there any other things that increase its toxic level and speed up the process of N that any one is aware of?

 

[suicidesheep31]

I guess if you do it right, you don't need to speed up anything...

 

[Anonymous 4]

I guess if you do it right, you don't need to speed up anything

That would depend if you only have a free house for around 24 hours, as reports has been made that it can take up to 48 hours max depending on the person,

Plus, its also about raising the toxic lvl of N which why wouldn't you do for safe measure, a couple shots of whisky will help with this, was just wondering is there anything else that will do the same?

Every little helps, you know

 

[suicidesheep31]

Every little helps, you know

Yes, I see.
I would prefer to book an hotel just to not feel this stress of the 48h...

 

[LaminarFlow]

If you follow the protocol used to ctb with N you should not need to combine any other drugs.

However, to answer your question :

Benzodiazepines will strongly potentiate the CNS depression effects of N. Taking Benzos with N will make it much more toxic, as if you were absorbing a higher dose of N. In contrast to alcohol you do not have to take large amounts of Benzos so it should not increase the risk of vomiting.

 

[Anonymous 4]

If you follow the protocol used to ctb with N you should not need to combine any other drugs.

However, to answer your question :

Benzodiazepines will strongly potentiate the CNS depression effects of N. Taking Benzos with N will make it much more toxic, as if you were absorbing a higher dose of N. In contrast to alcohol you do not have to take large amounts of Benzos so it should not increase the risk of vomiting.

I appreciate your input very much, would you know by any chance that if I take a small amount of benzo, say 1 gram of xanax with the N, would it increase the risk of vomiting due to the added benzo? I'll be taking 30 tabs of Metoclopramide as the AE a hour before.

 

[mindcancer]

I appreciate your input very much, would you know by any chance that if I take a small amount of benzo, say 1 gram of xanax with the N, would it increase the risk of vomiting due to the added benzo? I'll be taking 30 tabs of Metoclopramide as the AE a hour before.

Vomiting by taking N is already rare, and if you've taken anti-emetics beforehand, you're all set. As far as I know, if you aren't already prone to vomiting when taking Xanax, it should not affect you at all.

 

[Anonymous 4]

Vomiting by taking N is already rare, and if you've taken anti-emetics beforehand, you're all set. As far as I know, if you aren't already prone to vomiting when taking Xanax, it should not affect you at all.

Iv never taken xanax before so I don't know, I'll do a test run with xanax, then a test run with the AE combine with xanax, just don't know if taking xanax with N will react, j thought I read somewhere not to take xanax with N, so I'll have to look into it some more

 

[mindcancer]

As Suicidesheep stated, there is no need to speed up the process or make it 'more' lethal. I think you can use phenytoin together with the pentobarbital to up the lethality. The Wikipedia page on Phenytoin/pentobarbital states this: "The phenytoin component produces reduced central nervous system function and cardiovascular collapse, causing hypotension". I've not heard much about this mixture (incl. Somnasol) and if it has been used in suicide successfully before. This article provides some figures about the intake of the drug. The vast majority (77%) of them were accidental, with 41% of the cases being ocular (the liquid splashed into the person's eyes by mistake). No deaths in this report were established, but I highly doubt that any of the victims had more than 200mg phenytoin/pentobarb in their systems.

 

[greyhound]

It's not a bad idea to think of combining it with other depressants. I'm also worried about the length of time for straight N. Dignitas stats show median time of death of 25 mins. But have to think the average Dignitas patient is elderly and infirm with one foot in the grave already. In my case I'm chronically ill but my heart is pretty strong.

I would use benzos but they make me really nauseous for some reason now. I have been considering combining it with opiates. Like an IM shot of heroin after drinking the N. Would take a few mins to have any effect at which point you'd already have passed out. Would potentially increase risk of vomiting though.

 

[Anonymous 4]

It's not a bad idea to think of combining it with other depressants. I'm also worried about the length of time for straight N. Dignitas stats show median time of death of 25 mins. But have to think the average Dignitas patient is elderly and infirm with one foot in the grave already. In my case I'm chronically ill but my heart is pretty strong.

I would use benzos but they make me really nauseous for some reason now. I have been considering combining it with opiates. Like an IM shot of heroin after drinking the N. Would take a few mins to have any effect at which point you'd already have passed out. Would potentially increase risk of vomiting though.

Dignitis uses 15G in 50ml water, and in my opinion that is a massive difference to 12.4 grams in 200ml, I ain't sure bout the opioid, I managed to methadone tablets, I don't know how opioids and N work with each other, but can I ask a question, I never done heroin or opiates, I got some 20mg methadone tablets, do you know it would be like if I take one?

 

[mindcancer]

Dignitis uses 15G in 50ml water, and in my opinion that is a massive difference to 12.4 grams in 200ml, I ain't sure bout the opioid, I managed to methadone tablets, I don't know how opioids and N work with each other, but can I ask a question, I never done heroin or opiates, I got some 20mg methadone tablets, do you know it would be like if I take one?

Opioids have an increased effect on the level of depression on the central nervous system, so taking N together with, let's say heroin, will actually be more lethal. Problem is that the chance of vomiting increases. Benzodiazepines such as Xanax and alcohol has a similar effect.

Read more here https://www.drugs.com/monograph/pentobarbital.html

 

[Dystopia]

If you have pharmaceutical grade nembutal, 6g is normally lethal. The reason 9/12/15g is used is only to speed up the process.

I agree that most of the statistics provided by various euthanasia providers are biased as they mainly relate to elderly patients in regards to time until death.

Pentobarbital (Nembutal) acts on GABA receptors and is much less selective than alcohol and benzodiazepines and is specific in its action to cause cardiotoxic effects which result in death.

There are actually many things that can potentiate this compound but if you have 1 or 2 bottles of pharmaceutical grade nembutal, you do not need anything else.

From my research and confirmed in the PPH handbook the following are most appropriate:

PPH recommended:
Strong alcohol (after consuming the N)
Dilatin (Phenytoin) 1-2g

I would recommend checking this link for other interactions for this substance: https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Pentobarbital

If you look at the top there are lots of substances which have synergistic effects with nembutal. The reason benzodiazepines and anti-psychotics can cause an extended coma is because of a tolerance built over time. If you take benzodiazepines without tolerance to them combined with nembutal it will only potentiate it and not hinder effects.

Personally I believe less is more in this case as others have said in regards to Vomiting. If you insist on using extra substances to speed up the process then a minimal amount of strong alcohol (to your preference) can be consumed after (to get rid of the taste and speed up the process) benzodiazepines can be used to reduce anxiety and potentiate N also in conjunction with alcohol or instead.

I hope this helps you. The main focus is to not be found for 24h as this maximises success rates; anything GABAergic or cardiotoxic can increase chances of success but are NOT necessary.