But there aren't any. I agree conceptually with what you're saying but essentially you'd need to help them with it. SI is this mysterious thing trapping us here and I have to think there's something similar you'd experience with children/ family though I've never seen it discussed
The methods they use in the clinics- nembutal. Or, the method they are no doubt considering- the Sarco pod are surely relatively easy? When available.
I'm sure SI is a stumbling block for the individual. Google reckons there's a suicide in the US every 11 minutes though- so, it obviously is something we can get over- even without help.
As for SI towards offspring. I'm sure you're right. I think an animal's drive to protect its young from harm can be huge. But then- I take that to be the underlying meaning of the post in a way. Simply- don't bring a sentient being into a situation fraught with risk and danger- if you aren't willing to let it escape- should it feel the need to.
That's what I find so ironic really. We call it love- the need to protect and need so intensely. But the consequence is- it can trap the person here. It's actually a very selfish love and instinct if its obvious the being is suffering and can't be helped- to trap it here. We'll recognise it in pets. Even though we love and need them- there's more compassion to end their suffering. But of course- they aren't carrying our genes.
Even if they don't put that pressure on us obviously- it's there. I have this suspicion that if I told my Dad just how badly I've felt pretty much all my life- maybe he would let me go. But- it would break his heart, fill him with guilt and one way or another- it could well shorten his own life. So- I have that responsibility/ guilt trip- that to tell him and/ or to do it would destroy what remains of his life.
So- that's a co- dependent emotional trap we get placed in. That's also my argument though- it's unfair to do that to someone! It means we aren't free at all. We'll always be emotionally responsible for them- as much as they are (or should be) for us.
Anti-natilism can be about harm prevention. Even for someone who desperately wants children. I can't say I do but, I can imagine caring for a baby. I can imagine seeing them laugh and feeling overjoyed. I can also picture them in floods of tears because they've been bullied at school. Devastated because someone they know has died. Worried sick because they can't get the job they want. Suffering because they become ill. I wouldn't want to condemn them to that. Even just the risk of that. I wouldn't want them to feel as I do. To feel desperately unhappy but trapped here. Because they can't find a reliable method and, they can't tell me- for fear it would devastate me.
Maybe it's an extreme view but, I feel like parents fail as the optimal definition of parents from the get go. They immediately subject their child to a whole host of risks they can't possibly protect them from. And they dump them in a trap where, for not only physical and evolutional reasons (lack of reliable, peaceful methods and SI) it's hard to leave. But, we also know we have to break their heart and possibly devastate the lives of those around us to do so. It's a terrible position to risk putting someone in- in my view.
All our insticts can be strong- the drive to procreate. The drive to protect the child- no matter what- even from itself. The drive to survive. We can overcome all of them though. Our logic and sometimes our own selfish needs can overwhelm our natural instincts.
