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itsallover

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Jun 29, 2018
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Once they have you pinned with something their mind is already made up. According to her I am bipolar because of the way I answered some questions I answered a while back. She has me on mood stabilizers now and my mood is still shit because of my chronic illness. Every time I told her I don't believe I'm bipolar she kept referring back to her notes saying we'll you said this. Since when did words constitute a diagnosis and no matter what you say afterwards it is written in stone. I kept telling here it's just severe OCD and that antianxiety medication would have been just fine from the very beginning. I'm just gonna stop taking the mood stabilizer all together. Then she wanted to give me antidepressants for my depression meanwhile my depression is because of my condition not the other way around. She even had the nerve to question much physical condition thinking my mind is making it worse than it is. I hate all of these quacks. Everything physical to them is in your head. I think part of their should be to being subjected to physical pain and then treating it with mood stabilizers and antidepressants. Get a taste of their own medicine and see how much they like it then. All of them are the same garbage no matter their credentials.
 
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Smilla

Smilla

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Apr 30, 2018
2,549
My experience with shrinks has been shitty, very shitty.

Sorry for your pain.
 
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bigj75

bigj75

“From Knowledge springs power."
Sep 1, 2018
2,540
Some are more understanding than others but in general Ive never met a shrink in person that truly understood how shit works.
 
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Made4TV

Made4TV

A hopeless hope junkie
Sep 17, 2018
574
I feel bad because I have the absolute best psychiatrist in the world...and I'm still doing this.
 
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couldntthinkofaname

couldntthinkofaname

Mage
Aug 31, 2018
565
they are extremely useless




even the medication is just try and error


but to their defense


they hate their jobs just like we do hate our job or school

if you talk to them he/she is probably thinking about what he/she is having for dinner


and ofc we still dont have basics understanding of the human brain
 
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Libido Torpedo

Libido Torpedo

oh um
Sep 18, 2018
34
Psychiatrists get a bad rap... as medical professionals they do the hippocratic oath; their prime directive is to preserve life.
 
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Wantingpeace

Wantingpeace

Wizard
Aug 16, 2018
672
I never had chronic head pain before the antidepressant and they are trying to make out that is my psyhcological conditon.

I just can't figure out if they know that some people will end up with unlivable damage but just think of those people as unlucky or they genuinely don't know.

Ontop of it all. She sent a letter to GP to tell him it seems important to me that I'm believed all the while making it clear she doesn't believe me.

Just livid.
 
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Tonic

Tonic

Another human
Sep 11, 2018
15
Once they have you pinned with something their mind is already made up. According to her I am bipolar because of the way I answered some questions I answered a while back. She has me on mood stabilizers now and my mood is still shit because of my chronic illness. Every time I told her I don't believe I'm bipolar she kept referring back to her notes saying we'll you said this. Since when did words constitute a diagnosis and no matter what you say afterwards it is written in stone. I kept telling here it's just severe OCD and that antianxiety medication would have been just fine from the very beginning. I'm just gonna stop taking the mood stabilizer all together. Then she wanted to give me antidepressants for my depression meanwhile my depression is because of my condition not the other way around. She even had the nerve to question much physical condition thinking my mind is making it worse than it is. I hate all of these quacks. Everything physical to them is in your head. I think part of their should be to being subjected to physical pain and then treating it with mood stabilizers and antidepressants. Get a taste of their own medicine and see how much they like it then. All of them are the same garbage no matter their credentials.

My first and last experience with professional help was the time I was diagnosed with Bipolar 2 years ago. The thing is, before going to the clinic, I had prior knowledge of bipolar and had pre-exposure to mental illness tests. I just told them things I wanted them to know and they conveniently reached the conclusion I expected. Then it was a bunch of meds and they were effing expensive. Of course there was compulsory follow-ups and all. I went to the follow up but it was utter garbage as they didn't tell me anything useful, just prescribing another bunch of meds that cost half of my wage. That was the last straw. I nearly lashed out right then at how horrible their service were. After that I never took the meds nor another step into their office, and my bipolar magically disappeared too. LoL. Talk about convenient.
This is the main reason why I never chose treament and professional help again. Psychiatrists in my country are a bunch of money-hungry hypocrites with questionable knowledge and skills. They don't care about the patients, they just do what's beneficial for them.
 
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Made4TV

Made4TV

A hopeless hope junkie
Sep 17, 2018
574
I just told them things I wanted them to know and they conveniently reached the conclusion I expected.
why? And do you think you are bipolar? I'm confused.
 
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GeorgeEastman

Arcanist
Sep 3, 2018
470
Their top priority is to keep you as a customer.

I'd be all for it if I could handle how dumb they are. Coming here and talking to people who understand the wanting of death is better than anything I've ever found in the real world. Everybody out there is wired for life. To me, life is a big pointless waste and I'm an idiot for keeping on with it.
 
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Tonic

Tonic

Another human
Sep 11, 2018
15
why? And do you think you are bipolar? I'm confused.
At that time I thought I had bipolar, so I researched the term and then went to the psychiatrist with that term in mind. When they asked about my symptoms, my answers were honest but biased because of my preexposure. I have never had much faith in professionals but my family insisted that I go to one for help (but I paid for the cost) so it was my way of testing them. The psychiatrist only knew half the truth but still confidently gave me the diagnosis.
 
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Wantingpeace

Wantingpeace

Wizard
Aug 16, 2018
672
At that time I thought I had bipolar, so I researched the term and then went to the psychiatrist with that term in mind. When they asked about my symptoms, my answers were honest but biased because of my preexposure. I have never had much faith in professionals but my family insisted that I go to one for help (but I paid for the cost) so it was my way of testing them. The psychiatrist only knew half the truth but still confidently gave me the diagnosis.
I think they obliged to give everyone that visits them a diagnosis
 
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Tonic

Tonic

Another human
Sep 11, 2018
15
I think they obliged to give everyone that visits them a diagnosis
Yeah, I guess they are obliged to prescibe a bunch of expensive meds that mess with their patients' brain too...
 
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Made4TV

Made4TV

A hopeless hope junkie
Sep 17, 2018
574
Oh ok, that makes sense I guess. I have had so many diagnoses all over the place, for years. We finally have it right and turns out it doesn't matter - I'm going to ctb anyway.
 
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Caustic Cardinals

Caustic Cardinals

Enlightened
Sep 1, 2018
1,339
In my case the point would be just to piss them off
 
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Maya

Member
Apr 24, 2018
29
I have a fantastic therapist but my psychologist, who is very nice, doesnt get me. My point being they arent all bad. I think my therapist in psychic
 
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okyeah

Arcanist
Jul 20, 2018
425
Most doctors are dumber than you'd think. I was diagnosed with schizophrenia when I was in a voluntary commitment and of course it's not true. They have to act like they know what they're doing though because otherwise they would look incompetent. Plus most people that become doctors are narcissists anyway so they aren't very thoughtful people.
 
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PatKat

PatKat

Meh
Aug 9, 2018
1,025
Once they have you pinned with something their mind is already made up. According to her I am bipolar because of the way I answered some questions I answered a while back. She has me on mood stabilizers now and my mood is still shit because of my chronic illness. Every time I told her I don't believe I'm bipolar she kept referring back to her notes saying we'll you said this. Since when did words constitute a diagnosis and no matter what you say afterwards it is written in stone. I kept telling here it's just severe OCD and that antianxiety medication would have been just fine from the very beginning. I'm just gonna stop taking the mood stabilizer all together. Then she wanted to give me antidepressants for my depression meanwhile my depression is because of my condition not the other way around. She even had the nerve to question much physical condition thinking my mind is making it worse than it is. I hate all of these quacks. Everything physical to them is in your head. I think part of their should be to being subjected to physical pain and then treating it with mood stabilizers and antidepressants. Get a taste of their own medicine and see how much they like it then. All of them are the same garbage no matter their credentials.
Wellt they are not there to argue with. Express your concerns in a calm fashion and they will assist you. What all are you trying to do exactly?
 
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Ben

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Sep 12, 2018
784
Yes I agree it is. I think to earn their degree, one of their primary focuses is to save lives, so their will use their mental Kung fu to push their agenda.

While they can provide a positive service to some people, they are nothing but roadblocks for others.
 
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Tonic

Tonic

Another human
Sep 11, 2018
15
The clinic I went to was one of the most famous and expensive psych clinic in my city (the biggest city nation-wide). Many "experts" and support groups recommended that place to me, so I thought I would give it a try. If it wasn't doing a proper job, then I guess it's safe to say others couldn't do any better. That's why I said "in my country". I do believe other countries have decent or even amazing doctors to offer.
 
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Smilla

Smilla

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Apr 30, 2018
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The clinic I went to was one of the most famous and expensive psych clinic in my city (the biggest city nation-wide). Many "experts" and support groups recommended that place to me, so I thought I would give it a try. If it wasn't doing a proper job, then I guess it's safe to say others couldn't do any better. That's why I said "in my country". I do believe other countries have decent or even amazing doctors to offer.


I'm located in one of the best areas in the US for medicine. It isn't better necessarily; for one, it's prohibitively expensive and secondly psychiatry is such a pseudo science in so many respects it is almost impossible to tell the difference between a quack and a legitimately caring doctor who is up to date on the latest research. My first shrink offered psychoanalysis and the usual routine of SSRIs. He's probably an outlier in the sense that he was damaging/abusive (and psychoanalysis has its own major problems as a theory).
I also think I just got unlucky.

Now, I am biased against psychiatrists. Others mileage may vary. Not discouraging anyone from getting help but please please do your research and bolt if you see "red flags" from any professional.
 
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InkBlot

What Do You See?
Sep 17, 2018
162
Once they have you pinned with something their mind is already made up. According to her I am bipolar because of the way I answered some questions I answered a while back. She has me on mood stabilizers now and my mood is still shit because of my chronic illness. Every time I told her I don't believe I'm bipolar she kept referring back to her notes saying we'll you said this. Since when did words constitute a diagnosis and no matter what you say afterwards it is written in stone. I kept telling here it's just severe OCD and that antianxiety medication would have been just fine from the very beginning. I'm just gonna stop taking the mood stabilizer all together. Then she wanted to give me antidepressants for my depression meanwhile my depression is because of my condition not the other way around. She even had the nerve to question much physical condition thinking my mind is making it worse than it is. I hate all of these quacks. Everything physical to them is in your head. I think part of their should be to being subjected to physical pain and then treating it with mood stabilizers and antidepressants. Get a taste of their own medicine and see how much they like it then. All of them are the same garbage no matter their credentials.

I was diagnosed with a personality disorder at a young age(freshmen in high school.)
Their reaction was a joyful :"We're gonna have so much fun trying to cure you. "
I asked how long I was going to stay, and they said those with personality disorders are menaces to society, and I'd be lucky to get out. Thankfully insurance gave up 8 days in, and told them just how much my parents made, and they let me out. Theyre all dirty. The problem with their methods, is that in 90% of cases, its self reporting. They just make notes on your reports. You can lie, and they won't know.

Ever since that first hospital stay, I made sure to hide my diagnosis. I compartmentalize everything.
 
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MissLisa

Student
Sep 13, 2018
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Once they have you pinned with something their mind is already made up. According to her I am bipolar because of the way I answered some questions I answered a while back. She has me on mood stabilizers now and my mood is still shit because of my chronic illness. Every time I told her I don't believe I'm bipolar she kept referring back to her notes saying we'll you said this. Since when did words constitute a diagnosis and no matter what you say afterwards it is written in stone. I kept telling here it's just severe OCD and that antianxiety medication would have been just fine from the very beginning. I'm just gonna stop taking the mood stabilizer all together. Then she wanted to give me antidepressants for my depression meanwhile my depression is because of my condition not the other way around. She even had the nerve to question much physical condition thinking my mind is making it worse than it is. I hate all of these quacks. Everything physical to them is in your head. I think part of their should be to being subjected to physical pain and then treating it with mood stabilizers and antidepressants. Get a taste of their own medicine and see how much they like it then. All of them are the same garbage no matter their credentials.
That's really bad, could you request to change psychiatrist, get another opinion?
 
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couldntthinkofaname

Mage
Aug 31, 2018
565
I was diagnosed with a personality disorder at a young age(freshmen in high school.)
Their reaction was a joyful :"We're gonna have so much fun trying to cure you. "
I asked how long I was going to stay, and they said those with personality disorders are menaces to society, and I'd be lucky to get out. Thankfully insurance gave up 8 days in, and told them just how much my parents made, and they let me out. Theyre all dirty. The problem with their methods, is that in 90% of cases, its self reporting. They just make notes on your reports. You can lie, and they won't know.

Ever since that first hospital stay, I made sure to hide my diagnosis. I compartmentalize everything.
what kind of personality disorder?
 
sky7

sky7

Student
Aug 21, 2018
109
I know what you mean. I literally begged my doctor not to diagnose me as bipolar because of career implications. But there was no convincing her.
 
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bigj75

bigj75

“From Knowledge springs power."
Sep 1, 2018
2,540
I know what you mean. I literally begged my doctor not to diagnose me as bipolar because of career implications. But there was no convincing her.
Wtf.
 
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RacilyDank

Specialist
Sep 3, 2018
321
Once they have you pinned with something their mind is already made up. According to her I am bipolar because of the way I answered some questions I answered a while back. She has me on mood stabilizers now and my mood is still shit because of my chronic illness. Every time I told her I don't believe I'm bipolar she kept referring back to her notes saying we'll you said this. Since when did words constitute a diagnosis and no matter what you say afterwards it is written in stone. I kept telling here it's just severe OCD and that antianxiety medication would have been just fine from the very beginning. I'm just gonna stop taking the mood stabilizer all together. Then she wanted to give me antidepressants for my depression meanwhile my depression is because of my condition not the other way around. She even had the nerve to question much physical condition thinking my mind is making it worse than it is. I hate all of these quacks. Everything physical to them is in your head. I think part of their should be to being subjected to physical pain and then treating it with mood stabilizers and antidepressants. Get a taste of their own medicine and see how much they like it then. All of them are the same garbage no matter their credentials.
What questions? And how did you answer them?

I've got an assessment tomorrow and if I'm totally honest I think they're going to diagnose me as bipolar 2.

All this means is that they'll prescribe me different drugs, which won't fix the problem or the trail of destruction it's left in its path
 
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worldexploder

worldexploder

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Sep 19, 2018
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Therapy has never helped me. Unfortunately, I'm required to see one to keep my SSI. I sit down, the counciler asks me how I am doing...I say "same as before"....then it's the whole "have you tried getting out more? Volunteering"? Yada yada!

I sorta lost my temper with a counciler back in 2016 after being frank with him about my belief in physician assisted suicide for any adult who wants it. He then compared what they are doing in Switzerland, Belgium, and the Netherlands to the T-4 euthanasia program in Nazi Germany. I was like - "if you don't know the difference between force and choice then maybe I should be sitting in your chair".

He sort of laughed and said that if his clients had the right to die he would be out of a job. That's when I really got pissed. I said - "so it's all about money to you people huh? Is that why the medical industrial complex is so opposite to assisted suicide"? Then walked out.

I fucking hate the cult like atmosphere of psychology! Death is never the answer, there is "always" hope. It goes against reality and these quacks are smart enough to know it. To me, these people are like politicians - they want to keep you dumbed down so that they will make more money. If you think too much about your imposition, maybe you won't see them anymore.

An honest psychologist would tell you that your physical brain structure has more to do with how you are than anything else. You can't really talk people out of that. Sorry for the rant but damn.
 
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