Venting Therapy doesn't work (for me)

[deadwithoutmusic]

I've tried therapy over the last couple of months with two different therapists but I just don't get it. Talking to someone just doesn't work for me, like what are they going to say that I already don't know? I already understand myself and every revelation they have about me I already know and it doesn't help me at all. A couple of hours over months is a drop in the hat in what is required to truly understand a person. Them telling me to do things like have a sleep schedule, exercise, eat healthy. I have never had a great sleeping pattern, I have never been very active and I have never eaten great and now they want me to change all these habbits I've built up over the years while I'm deppressed? That just seems like an impossible task and even if I were to achieve all of this I don't think it will solve anything. Maybe I will have a little more dopamine or serotonin in my brain but I will still feel useless, hopeless, without purpose and want to ctb. Then their last resort is to take pills like a fucking zombie and they don't see a problem with that, and half the studies show (atleast to my knowledge) that medication doesn't work on everyone and even when it does only for the short term until they realise it was all an illusion and nothing has changed for them. "If you're going to kill yourself you might as well try medication" is the response I usually get. Fuck that, I would rather die way before experiencing life like that. I'm also just mad because therapy was a last resort and my last hope and it was just fucking useless.

I should say this was my experience and I'm mainly just venting and it might work for others and you should give it a try if you haven't and I wish you the best of luck that you're not like me. I don't want this to be an anti therapy post and I still think people should seek help and try therapy or atleast give it more of a chance than I did.

 

[Mr2005]

I kept going to therapy for years knowing full it well it wouldn't work without actually doing what would. How stupids that? I left therapy more fucked up than when I went in and I've no one to blame but myself. Do it if you want to do it. Don't do it because other people want you to and don't expect other people to do what you want either.

 

[Panna]

My experiences with that kind of thing are pretty much similar, so it ain't only you. Tell them about rage issues, they say to imagine a red and green light before acting, tell them about depression, they respond with you need sleep and medication. It always feels as if they're only there for the paycheck and not to help the individual so why bother with it. All you get is a non-caring person who expects a nice paycheck afterwards.

 

[deadwithoutmusic]

My experiences with that kind of thing are pretty much similar, so it ain't only you. Tell them about rage issues, they say to imagine a red and green light before acting, tell them about depression, they respond with you need sleep and medication. It always feels as if they're only there for the paycheck and not to help the individual so why bother with it. All you get is a non-caring person who expects a nice paycheck afterwards.

It almost makes me want to ctb just to show them that I was serious and show them that they obviously didn't help at all.

 

[Panna]

It almost makes me want to ctb just to show them that I was serious and show them that they obviously didn't help at all.

You'd just be giving them less of a work load to worry about, the only person who would win in that scenario ironically is the "therapist".

 

[deadwithoutmusic]

You'd just be giving them less of a work load to worry about, the only person who would win in that scenario ironically is the "therapist".

That makes me really sad to think that they don't even care if you die.

 

[WhatIsMyLife]

Two therapists is nothing tbh. I know people who have tried like 10 therapists before finding "the one." Try and push on with it. Does your country have any sort of mental health subsidy for therapist visits?

 

[OnlyTheWind]

Did therapy for a while, but never had the motivation to try what was suggested. It was always just me feeling sorry for myself, so I just stopped going and felt sorry for myself in my room instead. If you can take advice and apply yourself, you might still be able to make a change.

 

[Meditation guide]

I've tried therapy over the last couple of months with two different therapists but I just don't get it. Talking to someone just doesn't work for me, like what are they going to say that I already don't know? I already understand myself and every revelation they have about me I already know and it doesn't help me at all. A couple of hours over months is a drop in the hat in what is required to truly understand a person. Them telling me to do things like have a sleep schedule, exercise, eat healthy. I have never had a great sleeping pattern, I have never been very active and I have never eaten great and now they want me to change all these habbits I've built up over the years while I'm deppressed? That just seems like an impossible task and even if I were to achieve all of this I don't think it will solve anything. Maybe I will have a little more dopamine or serotonin in my brain but I will still feel useless, hopeless, without purpose and want to ctb. Then their last resort is to take pills like a fucking zombie and they don't see a problem with that, and half the studies show (atleast to my knowledge) that medication doesn't work on everyone and even when it does only for the short term until they realise it was all an illusion and nothing has changed for them. "If you're going to kill yourself you might as well try medication" is the response I usually get. Fuck that, I would rather die way before experiencing life like that. I'm also just mad because therapy was a last resort and my last hope and it was just fucking useless.

I should say this was my experience and I'm mainly just venting and it might work for others and you should give it a try if you haven't and I wish you the best of luck that you're not like me. I don't want this to be an anti therapy post and I still think people should seek help and try therapy or atleast give it more of a chance than I did.

I've tried a couple of therapists and as a result am strongly against it. The ones I saw were yawning, not looking at me at all, rolling their eyes when I talked, telling me to exercise, and just watching the clock waiting for time to be up.

 

[alfie]

I've tried a couple of therapists and as a result am strongly against it. The ones I saw were yawning, not looking at me at all, rolling their eyes when I talked, telling me to exercise, and just watching the clock waiting for time to be up.

That's terrible. How can they conscionably behave like this?

 

[WhatIsMyLife]

I've tried a couple of therapists and as a result am strongly against it. The ones I saw were yawning, not looking at me at all, rolling their eyes when I talked, telling me to exercise, and just watching the clock waiting for time to be up.

That's absolutely shocking. You really should report them to the relative authorative body. Therapists cost a lot. They should be able to deliver a service where they at least act like they care.

I hope you were able to at least contest for a refund.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

I've tried a couple of therapists and as a result am strongly against it. The ones I saw were yawning, not looking at me at all, rolling their eyes when I talked, telling me to exercise, and just watching the clock waiting for time to be up.

Same for me. And the annoying silence when I don't know what to say. I am not against therapy. It works for some people but not for me.

 

[Meditation guide]

I had two young lady therapists in a room with me one time. I had intestinal cramps and bloating while I was in the small room with them. I'm not sure why two of them were there but I had to break wind several times and didn't mention it to them, just would get up and go out into the hallway when I had to do it. Then I would come back and sit down and resume. The third time I did that they looked at each other meaningfully as I came back into the room as if to say look how crazy this one is. They probably had discussed my getting up and leaving, then coming back and decided I was totally gone mentally. I will never forget how they looked at each other when I came back into the room.

That funny experience was the only positive thing that ever happened.

A normal person would have simply asked me why I was doing that. But their attitudes were to remain distant, cold, uninvolved, uninterested and adversarial.

 

[deadwithoutmusic]

Two therapists is nothing tbh. I know people who have tried like 10 therapists before finding "the one." Try and push on with it. Does your country have any sort of mental health subsidy for therapist visits?

It does but it only pays for like 75% of the cost for 10 visits a year. Kinda unrealistic for me to visit 10 different therapists.

 

[alfie]

Ah, I'm not surprised, really...

One would have to have a massive interest in other people's welfare to be a decent doctor.

And that's not even speaking for the required level of competence to be one. You can truly want to help people but you'd have to have the skills to at the very least not fuck up.

That's the reason why it's so hard to find a good doctor. Especially these days when indifference and apathy to other people's plight have reached new lows. Medical research has never been more sophisticated but civility, let alone basic kindness, is severely lacking nowadays.

 

[Meditation guide]

 

[Ren Elsie Jewelria]

I can only confirm that therapy doesn't work and that those therapists, psychiatrists, etc. are sheeple with the least amount of empathy ever.
They just do their job like they're clerks at 7-Eleven (earlier today a lady at the convenience store opened it 15 mins earlier for me because she had seen me standing there and waiting, so actually the therapists and shrinks are worse). I've actually met unqualified people working here and there who'd be better therapists than those so called "professionals".

 

[Susannah]

Therapy enlightened me in some way. The therapist know nothing about me that I don't know, and the only "cure" given is antidepressant and maybe some meds to sleep.

Unless you find a really good listener- therapist, one to trust and you have good chemistry, most "sessions" are useless. I'll never spend money on it ever again. A few tips; keep your expectations low. Expect nothing from your therapy. Use your therapist as a "trash can".

 

[BipolarGuy]

I've tried therapy over the last couple of months with two different therapists but I just don't get it. Talking to someone just doesn't work for me, like what are they going to say that I already don't know? I already understand myself and every revelation they have about me I already know and it doesn't help me at all. A couple of hours over months is a drop in the hat in what is required to truly understand a person. Them telling me to do things like have a sleep schedule, exercise, eat healthy. I have never had a great sleeping pattern, I have never been very active and I have never eaten great and now they want me to change all these habbits I've built up over the years while I'm deppressed? That just seems like an impossible task and even if I were to achieve all of this I don't think it will solve anything. Maybe I will have a little more dopamine or serotonin in my brain but I will still feel useless, hopeless, without purpose and want to ctb. Then their last resort is to take pills like a fucking zombie and they don't see a problem with that, and half the studies show (atleast to my knowledge) that medication doesn't work on everyone and even when it does only for the short term until they realise it was all an illusion and nothing has changed for them. "If you're going to kill yourself you might as well try medication" is the response I usually get. Fuck that, I would rather die way before experiencing life like that. I'm also just mad because therapy was a last resort and my last hope and it was just fucking useless.

I should say this was my experience and I'm mainly just venting and it might work for others and you should give it a try if you haven't and I wish you the best of luck that you're not like me. I don't want this to be an anti therapy post and I still think people should seek help and try therapy or atleast give it more of a chance than I did.

In all fairness you would be surprised how much of a difference getting a good sleep and eating well makes.

But I hear you.
In my experience physiological therapy is changing.
You've got the old timer psychologists and psychiatrists who try to 'get in your head' and give you the time you need.
You've then got the relatively young ones who think that everything can be made better by filling out a form or completing a paper based exercise.
Talking to these young ones can be a real ball ache because you feel like you've got to stop after every sentence so they can finish writing it down.

Then there's the boom of the private 'specialist', none of whom are specialists at all.
They just completed a course in something like hypnotherapy and now they advertise that they can solve all of your problems.

 

[grey_light]

On the one hand, therapy did help me. On the other, it did shit all for my actual problems. The major things I can remember over the last two years of on and off therapy was one therapist helped me come to terms with my gender identity, and another helped me process a breakup like a year after it happened. Both good and helpful things, but they didn't make me less suicidal, and I actually didn't really discuss my real problems with my last therapist at all out of fear of being institutionalized

 

[Sea Turtle]

I feel this ... at the end of the road they can only really offer words to a sore ear, or medication to make it all numb... for a while anyways...

I tried therapy for a bit but I've settled with accepting my fate, I don't have the motivation to change. I don't want to change. To some extent the pain is comforting ... and death is ... welcoming and comfortable.

 

[Meditation guide]

Looking back a couple of them came to the conclusion my parents being screwed up was the root of my problem but I wish they had elaborated on that at the time to help me figure it out more.

 

[clayp]

I've tried a couple of therapists and as a result am strongly against it. The ones I saw were yawning, not looking at me at all, rolling their eyes when I talked, telling me to exercise, and just watching the clock waiting for time to be up.

Yeah similar to mine, eat well and exercise. Go for long walks bla bla bla . Meh

 

[Lilacmoon]

I didn't let them help me. Never opened up, after having been sent to a ward once. So all I received from them were empty platitudes, the same ones we all know and hear all the time. Maybe therapy is good for others, but it is useless for me.

 

[Meditation guide]

Never opened up,

I was programmed from birth to not talk especially about problems so I am used to sitting silently and I sure as heck am not able to talk about my parents and how bad they were. That fear was drilled into me in a way a little kid will never forget for life.

I also realized I have dissociative disorder. A little helpless kid is there inside who tries to talk but can't find the words and is scared to talk anyway.

 

[Shades of Grey]

The problem I've run into is that "mindfulness" and meditation seem to have infiltrated everything these days. It is so hard to find a therapist in my area that doesn't push them, particularly if you're looking for someone who expresses any degree of comfort in dealing with self-harm and chronic suicidal ideation.

When that approach doesn't work, there invariably seems to be this mindset that you're not trying or aren't doing it "right". I don't understand this level of resistance to the idea that not everyone is going to respond favorably to a particular treatment modality. It feels like trying to explain to the door-knocker du jour why their brand of faith isn't for you; like it's some sort of personal affront.

 

[WornOutLife]

It definitely doesn't work for me either.

I've seen 10 different therapists throughout the years and the experiences I had were ridiculous.
Maybe some of them kinda "helped" me with more normal stuff such as jealousy and work stress.

However, as regards depression and suicide...
I will only say that talking to a wall was more effective.

 

[smithy]

I am on the same boat. Tried many therapists. They were all great people and surely educated. And gave most of them much time. At the end it just felt like I was overpaying someone just to listen to me.