Sans

Sans

Protesting the conditions of an inhumane world
Oct 2, 2019
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I was browsing an Incel forum, and I found this gem of a thread. Smartest stuff I've read all day. Say what you want about Incels, I'm talking about the thread, not the group.

Anyway, here's the text, in full.


"As social alienation has increased due to the dislocations wrought by liberal-capitalism, people have naturally become less capable of resolving disputes between themselves, and so have outsourced conflict resolutions to police officers and therapists and the like.

It is no coincidence that a therapist will not hesitate to call the police on you if you say too much, and betray your trust, because both professions are inherently rooted in the contradictions of a low trust society. Both a police officer and a therapist are ultimately working against you, and see you as something to be managed rather than made satisfied.

A therapist is the capitalist equivalent of a KGB spy in the Soviet Union pretending to be your friend, but who is actually just there to inform on any seditious words of yours, while you pay him to do so (whether through the vector of the state or the sham of paying for "mental health treatment").

Except there's much less pretense with a therapist, and at least a KGB spy did not personally force you to remunerate him as he shit-tested your faith in the prevailing system of power."



I find this to be very true, but I find it to be ESPECIALLY true for victims of capitalist regimes who have become suicidal as a result of their hardships, or for any reason at all.

It's (somewhat) common knowledge that the police in these regimes are working against the common man. They're not your friend. But with therapists, that knowledge is not so common.

If you tell a therapist you're suicidal, chances are they'll call those JERK COPS on you and they'll come take you away to a prison camp "mental health facility" for an indeterminate amount of time, because as we all know, the best way to make a miserable person happier is to take away what little freedom they have left. The therapists and police are no better than those thugs who try and get SS taken down. They do it all the while draining you of your money.



 
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Ch92921

Ch92921

The call of the void
Dec 29, 2018
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Psychiatrist are total useless!
 
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Lys_C15H25N3O_d3

Student
Sep 19, 2023
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not all of all them, mine is actually pretty cool, turned out she was crazy and misdiagnosed but turned out to be a doctor.. a shame she could have helped me earlier
 
real human being

real human being

full of broken thoughts
Jan 28, 2022
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While I think there's some truth in your post, and I think it's terrible and inhumane that therapists report you for being suicidal so that you can then be locked up in a psych ward, therapists are not the modern day equivalent of KGB spies, their only purpose is not to control you, and they do help some people. I think the modern mental health system is fucked up with a capital F but comparing therapists to KGB spies is probably a step too far.
 
hermestrimegistus

hermestrimegistus

Specialist
Sep 16, 2023
341
This is a pretty clever analogy. My problem with therapy/psychologist/psychiatrist/counselor etc. is I don't trust the business model. If you get better, you don't need therapy anymore. Why would they want to lose a paying customer, oops, I mean, client. People argue therapists don't help you, they help you help yourself, but at the best it's just a codependent relationship that you are being severely overcharged for. I've seen professionals. Yes a lot of times they're "nice" but that is because they are looking at you like you're a wallet with legs. It's kind of a sick business. Sucks for the majority of people who don't have someone they can trust (myself included) that they can talk to about important things without fear of it being spread, judgment, or trying to hospitalize them against their will. Even more fucked up that people make a living because of this
 
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Sans

Sans

Protesting the conditions of an inhumane world
Oct 2, 2019
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While I think there's some truth in your post, and I think it's terrible and inhumane that therapists report you for being suicidal so that you can then be locked up in a psych ward, therapists are not the modern day equivalent of KGB spies, their only purpose is not to control you, and they do help some people. I think the modern mental health system is fucked up with a capital F but comparing therapists to KGB spies is probably a step too far.
Fair, you're entitled to your opinion. Maybe not all therapists try to control their patients, but when I was forced into therapy, mine did so to me.
 
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real human being

real human being

full of broken thoughts
Jan 28, 2022
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Fair, you're entitled to your opinion. Maybe not all therapists try to control their patients, but when I was forced into therapy, mine did so to me.
I didn't say therapists don't try to control their patients. Looking back at it, mine did that to me in a very blunt way. She was pressuring me and threatening to stop my therapy unless I take antidepressants, which to this day I do not want to take because I know they have a lot of side effects (including potentially permanent ones), work through blunting emotions, and withdrawal from them can be harsh. I might make a thread about it at some point.

There are a lot of problems with the mental health system and that surely includes therapy but I know it does help some people.
 
BlazingBob

BlazingBob

I'm still here b/c of my dogs
Oct 28, 2021
601
I've had two psychologists, two psychiatrists, and one MFT therapist dump me as a patient because they said my situation was hopeless and they couldn't help me. The MFT said she would probably ctb if she were in my shoes. I'm not making this up. At least they were honest. At the time I had good insurance so they could have bilked blue shield. The reality is that they were afraid of me ctb and they don't want that to happen on their watch. They could get sued and their insurance would go up. Not like it would matter in my case because I have no family anyways.
 
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Sans

Sans

Protesting the conditions of an inhumane world
Oct 2, 2019
343
I've had two psychologists, two psychiatrists, and one MFT therapist dump me as a patient because they said my situation was hopeless and they couldn't help me. The MFT said she would probably ctb if she were in my shoes. I'm not making this up. At least they were honest. At the time I had good insurance so they could have bilked blue shield. The reality is that they were afraid of me ctb and they don't want that to happen on their watch. They could get sued and their insurance would go up. Not like it would matter in my case because I have no family anyways.
And people wonder why I refuse to let myself get brainwashed by the therapy cult.
 
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BlazingBob

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I'm still here b/c of my dogs
Oct 28, 2021
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And people wonder why I refuse to let myself get brainwashed by the therapy cult.
Damn that was fast. How did you quote my post before I even finished it? Anyway, I've been in therapy on and off since 1989 and it hasn't done one damn bit of good. People act like it's a total panacea. It's the new religion.
 
Sans

Sans

Protesting the conditions of an inhumane world
Oct 2, 2019
343
Damn that was fast. How did you quote my post before I even finished it? Anyway, I've been in therapy on and off since 1989 and it hasn't done one damn bit of good. People act like it's a total panacea. It's the new religion.
I thought the post was done, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to see it.

Anyway, I was active in the chat room on this site, so I saw the notification immediately.
 
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loopdaloop

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Apr 16, 2023
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Therapy is definitely overrated, I feel guilty for buying into it and even suggesting getting it to other people... nowadays I see it as an over-priced sounding board
 

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