Venting The world will move on, right?

[AtomicWaffles]

It really took me time to think about, what impact would my death really have on the world? Well, nothing really, if I die people will move on like nothing happened, people will be happy (probably even happier without me burdening them), people will continue living their lives and doing what they wish, what difference would it truly make if me and some other people were gone? I truly cannot see how I can go on with pro-life people putting this false idea of "you have meaning" and "you have a purpose and your life is valuable" as if I wouldn't be completely replaced literally within 5 seconds of me dying, the population will increase regardless. As if my work isn't being done by thousands to millions of people around the world. What do I have to do here that will be literally of any value?

 

[Sleeper System]

There are a few people that have died in the peripheral of my life and you're right. They just get lost to time. I rarely think about them at all and when I do it's like yeah they were alive once but it effects nothing at all in the present so what was the point of their life really? To be a memory to someone who is destined to meet the same outcome? It feels like a sick sick job.

 

[Darkover]

you either have a skill that is in demand or you don't, some get to change the world while others get to die it's not fair but it's life, life is a brute force approach creating literally 130 million new babys every year, some are born with a gift and a purpose but most are not, the thing about life is there is no purpose other than one you give it yourself i guess you have to find a purpose for yourself or don't and decay away into nothingness

 

[Lulzacruel]

do people care about you is the question
no- okay. nobody will remember
yes- they grieve until they need to move on

 

[tiger b]

One day
Every star will be gone from the sky.

In light of that...

What lasting impact does anyone pretend to have?

Value? It's what you stamp on it. What else could it be?

 

[Redacted24]

The girl in my high school maths class has no idea that I stayed alive 40 more years because she shared some of her lunches with me. I still remember her...even though we weren't more than mere classmates.

The guy I saved years later might still remember me. I don't know his name, never did.

Hope he's a decent fellow or I'm going to feel badly about saving him.

There's the whole EEAAO multi universe thing. Who knows?
There will undoubtedly be memories of each of us.

 

[Tears in Rain]

An old man, via letter, asks an African kid he has sponsored what difference his life has made to anyone:

 

[TheLastGreySky]

It really took me time to think about, what impact would my death really have on the world? Well, nothing really, if I die people will move on like nothing happened, people will be happy (probably even happier without me burdening them), people will continue living their lives and doing what they wish, what difference would it truly make if me and some other people were gone? I truly cannot see how I can go on with pro-life people putting this false idea of "you have meaning" and "you have a purpose and your life is valuable" as if I wouldn't be completely replaced literally within 5 seconds of me dying, the population will increase regardless. As if my work isn't being done by thousands to millions of people around the world. What do I have to do here that will be literally of any value?

I get what you're saying. The only thing I disagree with is... Regardless if we matter or not, by the logic that no one matters... That means what other people feel doesn't matter.

CTB won't make anyone happier and if it does with all due respect whoever they might be... Fuck them. I think CTV is a personal choice and not a selfish one but one that is legitimately a life choice that no one else has the right to judge or to influence imo. I'm saying this because so many people I've talked to on here who want to ctb have self worth issues, and I feel like there's a difference between being in constant pain or being completely numb to all sensation... And letting people slap labels on you and letting that inner voice of depression tell you who you are or your worth. I'm not against people who choose to CTB I just think that we take a lot of outside voices and make them inside voices.

The way I see things is maybe we don't matter.
Then what does? Is the greatest question in life not to be or not to be? (Those who understand the meaning of this quote I tip my hat to you)
I think our experience matters and I think our happiness matters. Just my opinion.

 

[Forever Sleep]

It's a tricky subject really. Have you lost loved ones in life and grieved for them? Have other relatives told you not to be sad because it isn't what they would want? I've had that experience and it doesn't work- I still miss them and I still feel sad. None of them CTB though. But still, we can't exactly dictate how other people will respond to our death. We may be able to make an assessment though. Depends really on how the people in your life react to death. Personally, I don't think my Dad would handle it at all well. Especially not a suicide. So, I feel like I need to stay for now.

That's not to say I think everyone should hang on for loved ones. Some simply feel that they can't. That to me though is the really problematic tether to this world. I agree- in other respects, the world moves on. It's used to doing that. People die naturally, people retire, people quit their jobs. Some are missed more than others but other people end up taking over their role. But yeah- personal relationships are more tricky in my view. Suicides and deaths do affect people negatively. It's hard to judge what effect they will have. That's not me trying to guilt trip anyone. I just think it's the most realistic way to look at it though. Sadly, at this point- many of us don't exist in isolation. Depends on the individual I suppose.

 

[FuneralCry]

I believe that eventually most people won't even exist in the memories of those who continue to stay here, they'll just be forgotten like they never existed at all. I personally find this comforting, all I wish for is to eternally disappear with this existence erased. I believe pro-lifers only repeat things like that as they wish to prolong the suffering of others as much as possible even know we are all destined for nothing but to die anyway.

 

[Slow_Farewell]

Generally speaking, i guess people don't really matter. Unless the person has achieved something that's considered historic, I dont think they do.
This is why I advocate no goodbyes, no nothing. just vanishing or fading into the back.
Sure, I've seen people say "you need to inform your family.." "your loved ones will suffer.." etc etc.
One's memory of another person is only as strong as the bonds forged while they were still living.
If one has distanced themselves enough from anyone, it makes them easier to forget, or, lose value.
But that's just me.