Venting the tantacrul video

[azzy]

it's probably been beaten into the ground at this point, but i can't help in venting about this. so many people found this site and consequently gained even more traction after he made the video addressing it.

i genuinely dont understand his thought process with this, yea it "raises awareness", but it also gives suicidal people an easily accessible website that they found through his platform. there's no way he didn't anticipate this. he censors the name, but just by a little looking you can so easily find it… so what was his intention? to give this website exposure while being so adamant about "taking it down" or against "assistance in suicide"? in the end, it can be argued the mentally conflicted people that found this website through him and ACTUALLY found it as motivation to ctb is his blood in his own hands in a round-about way.

how is he any better than those who post here? in the end, he successfully led many people seeking in their own matters to here and could easily have been the reason they were able hurt themselves in the ways they intended to after discovering the site.

if anything, a measly "warning" to not visit this site isn't gonna deter someone who has strong enough intent. the algorithm surely recommends videos about mental health to these people, too: including his.

in reality, maybe i'm reading too much into this. any clarification from people who have their opinions would be appreciated, too. id like to hear differing opinions or in people that agree. other pov's would definitely be appreciated:)

 

[SilentSadness]

His intention was to get a lot of views and money, and it worked. He is also narcissistic and has held a grudge against the site since he was banned. He has no interest at all in helping the people on here. Those who do and want it destroyed are delusional, as you pointed out. It is best just to ignore them, as this site isn't going anywhere.

 

[aitouka]

He does it for fame and money. Everyone in the comments say he's such a righteous and good person for doing this, yet they never understand our pain. Ignorant, narcissistic and disgusting really. Those parents who lost their kids because their kids had access to this site - they never even tried to understand the reason behind their kids' suicidal ideations. They just blame it on the site. Like how many parents blame video games for every rebellious decision that their children made.

 

[Archness]

Yeah I came here because of that vid. I mean, sure you could say it's bad I'm here now, but if I didn't find this place I would still have no real outlet for these horrid feelings. I knew it was very likely I'd kill myself way before knowing this site existed, and this site isn't the reason I'll ctb, it's pretty much the other way around.

Knowing me, I'd look up suicide forums like this (technically like the Japanese suicide forums I herd about) soon before ctb to explain myself and more. It's thanks to that vid that I'm here alot earlier then normal, and I won't be one of those users who make <20 posts then ctb.


His whole video was one big virtue signal. Rly nothing more then a twitter cancellation.

 

[huntergirl14]

oh yeah a kid who he knew online, took their life. Now it is unfortunate BUT we don't know what horrors that kid went through? If He himself didn't come to help him or neither did his friends when the Kid really needed someone in their life, there was no one. Now that he is gone, everyone feels so bad booh hooh. Fuck these people

 

[Forever Sleep]

I absolutely agree with you. The VERY worst thing is that some of his audience base seems to be youngsters = minors. I wonder just how many of them he has pointed in the direction of this place. Ironic- seeing as his major (and understandable) grievance was over a minor that took their own life. I wonder if he feels any responsibility for the 115 people (so far- in the poll) who have found this place via his video. I wonder how many of them are very young adults.

I struggle to know what his motivations were. I'm not actually convinced it was all about fame and money. I think he felt a deep grievance against this place in response to the suicide of @SpentStardust. I get the impression that 1) he GENUINELY believes that ALL people can be 'saved' or 'helped' and basically stopped from CTB and 2) I assume he must believe that he has enough respect and clout that- when he tells his audience that a site is dangerous and should be prohibited- that they will take him at his word and not decide to find out for themselves. I TRULY don't think he understands what it's like to be suicidal AND NOT HAVE ANY DESIRE TO RECOVER. I don't think he realises that some people who are suicidal will be delighted to finally find a place where they can access method information. I found this place via the New York Times article. The title- which was presumably supposed to horrify people- something like- 'Where people go to log on and die' actually gave me hope that I could finally find a way out. I personally think it's pretty disturbing that these people don't fully consider what they're doing. It's pretty ironic, that from the current statistics, nearly 50% of us found this place via media pieces specifically put out there to try and raise oppostion to it.

 

[azzy]

Yeah I came here because of that vid. I mean, sure you could say it's bad I'm here now, but if I didn't find this place I would still have no real outlet for these horrid feelings. I knew it was very likely I'd kill myself way before knowing this site existed, and this site isn't the reason I'll ctb, it's pretty much the other way around.

Knowing me, I'd look up suicide forums like this (technically like the Japanese suicide forums I herd about) soon before ctb to explain myself and more. It's thanks to that vid that I'm here alot earlier then normal, and I won't be one of those users who make <20 posts then ctb.


His whole video was one big virtue signal. Rly nothing more then a twitter cancellation.

exactly, this gives such an outlet and he even admits in the video people go out looking for websites like these because no one tries to understand. at least the people here are able to understand to an extent you as an individual and what you're experiencing.

I absolutely agree with you. The VERY worst thing is that some of his audience base seems to be youngsters = minors. I wonder just how many of them he has pointed in the direction of this place. Ironic- seeing as his major (and understandable) grievance was over a minor that took their own life. I wonder if he feels any responsibility for the 115 people (so far- in the poll) who have found this place via his video. I wonder how many of them are very young adults.

I struggle to know what his motivations were. I'm not actually convinced it was all about fame and money. I think he felt a deep grievance against this place in response to the suicide of @SpentStardust. I get the impression that 1) he GENUINELY believes that ALL people can be 'saved' or 'helped' and basically stopped from CTB and 2) I assume he must believe that he has enough respect and clout that- when he tells his audience that a site is dangerous and should be prohibited- that they will take him at his word and not decide to find out for themselves. I TRULY don't think he understands what it's like to be suicidal AND NOT HAVE ANY DESIRE TO RECOVER. I don't think he realises that some people who are suicidal will be delighted to finally find a place where they can access method information. I found this place via the New York Times article. The title- which was presumably supposed to horrify people- something like- 'Where people go to log on and die' actually gave me hope that I could finally find a way out. I personally think it's pretty disturbing that these people don't fully consider what they're doing. It's pretty ironic, that from the current statistics, nearly 50% of us found this place via media pieces specifically put out there to try and raise oppostion to it.

yes, exactly! i didn't even think about his own primary audience literally being almost exclusively minors that a portion of have probably experienced some type of rudimentary suicidal thought(s), who could just be curious and check out the website literally doing the opposite of giving any type of awareness.

 

[epic]

We have the stats on that
How did you first hear about and/or find your way to this site?

• Searching for methods

  Votes: 131 39.7%
  
  
  
  
  

  The New York Times

  Votes: 39 11.8%
  
  
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  Other news outlet e.g Vice/BBC

  Votes: 8 2.4%
  
  
• 
  
  
  

  Tantacul's Youtube video

  Votes: 118 35.8%
  
  
• 
  
  

  A Youtube video other than Tantacrul's

  Votes: 9 2.7%
  
  
• 
  
  

  Wikipedia

  Votes: 5 1.5%
  
  
• 
  
  

  Recommended by a friend

  Votes: 15 4.5%
  
  
• 
  
  

  Through other forums or social media e.g Discord /Reddit (feel free to comment)

  Votes: 56 17.0%
  
  
• 
  
  

  Somewhere else--please describe in the comments

  Votes: 17 5.2%
  
  
• 
  
  

  Fix the 26 or Stop Sanctioned Suicide

  Votes: 3 0.9%

36% and counting since the poll opened are here (118 people are here) because of tantacrul .

How did you first hear about and/or find your way to this site?

Please select up to two choices. [This is posted with permission from a moderator to be a pinned post.]

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[azzy]

We have the stats on that
How did you first hear about and/or find your way to this site?

• Searching for methods

  Votes: 131 39.7%
  
  
  
  
  

  The New York Times

  Votes: 39 11.8%
  
  
• 
  
  
  

  Other news outlet e.g Vice/BBC

  Votes: 8 2.4%
  
  
• 
  
  
  

  Tantacul's Youtube video

  Votes: 118 35.8%
  
  
• 
  
  

  A Youtube video other than Tantacrul's

  Votes: 9 2.7%
  
  
• 
  
  

  Wikipedia

  Votes: 5 1.5%
  
  
• 
  
  

  Recommended by a friend

  Votes: 15 4.5%
  
  
• 
  
  

  Through other forums or social media e.g Discord /Reddit (feel free to comment)

  Votes: 56 17.0%
  
  
• 
  
  

  Somewhere else--please describe in the comments

  Votes: 17 5.2%
  
  
• 
  
  

  Fix the 26 or Stop Sanctioned Suicide

  Votes: 3 0.9%

36% and counting since the poll opened are here (118 people are here) because of tantacrul .

How did you first hear about and/or find your way to this site?

Please select up to two choices. [This is posted with permission from a moderator to be a pinned post.]

sanctioned-suicide.net

insane. that video did the exact opposite of what it was "intended" to do by him.

 

[tsykoais]

He does it for fame and money. Everyone in the comments say he's such a righteous and good person for doing this, yet they never understand our pain. Ignorant, narcissistic and disgusting really. Those parents who lost their kids because their kids had access to this site - they never even tried to understand the reason behind their kids' suicidal ideations. They just blame it on the site. Like how many parents blame video games for every rebellious decision that their children made.

100% they don't give a fuck about suicidal people at all, it's make themselves feel better and morally superior. they blame everyone but themselves. instead of blaming the site itself why they don't ever question why that person in question, especially if it's a child was on a suicide website in the first place?

 

[TheSadStranger]

it's probably been beaten into the ground at this point, but i can't help in venting about this. so many people found this site and consequently gained even more traction after he made the video addressing it.

i genuinely dont understand his thought process with this, yea it "raises awareness", but it also gives suicidal people an easily accessible website that they found through his platform. there's no way he didn't anticipate this. he censors the name, but just by a little looking you can so easily find it… so what was his intention? to give this website exposure while being so adamant about "taking it down" or against "assistance in suicide"? in the end, it can be argued the mentally conflicted people that found this website through him and ACTUALLY found it as motivation to ctb is his blood in his own hands in a round-about way.

how is he any better than those who post here? in the end, he successfully led many people seeking in their own matters to here and could easily have been the reason they were able hurt themselves in the ways they intended to after discovering the site.

if anything, a measly "warning" to not visit this site isn't gonna deter someone who has strong enough intent. the algorithm surely recommends videos about mental health to these people, too: including his.

in reality, maybe i'm reading too much into this. any clarification from people who have their opinions would be appreciated, too. id like to hear differing opinions or in people that agree. other pov's would definitely be appreciated:)

He did it for $$$ and clout. When you talk about a subject such as suicide it tends to get people's attention. When you make yourself look like a hero it gives you even more attention. More views = $$$. He doesn't care about his fans or the people here he just took an opportunity to grab some cash and gain some clout.

 

[Touhou]

Tantacrul's a douchebag either way. His only enjoyable video was the one he made dissing corporate music.

 

[milkandcoffee]

His videos cross my feed from time to time. If I weren't here already, I would be now thanks to him. I'm completely certain.

 

[Lavander 230]

He did it for $$$ and clout. When you talk about a subject such as suicide it tends to get people's attention. When you make yourself look like a hero it gives you even more attention. More views = $$$. He doesn't care about his fans or the people here he just took an opportunity to grab some cash and gain some clout.

I'd disagree. Just because his video was successful doesn't mean that he spent a year figuring out all the intentions what he wanted his video to become. Most likely he was too emotional and didn't think about the consequences his video could have made. I don't support him, I still think he's a fucking idiot, but I doubt you can call him a greedy mastermind behind the making of that video. It's human nature to fail to realize that if you want to stop something, for example to stop racism, all you have to do is to *stop talking about it*. People never realize this and they fail time and time again.

 

[tsykoais]

I'd disagree. Just because his video was successful doesn't mean that he spent a year figuring out all the intentions what he wanted his video to become. Most likely he was too emotional and didn't think about the consequences his video could have made. I don't support him, I still think he's a fucking idiot, but I doubt you can call him a greedy mastermind behind the making of that video. It's human nature to fail to realize that if you want to stop something, for example to stop racism, all you have to do is to *stop talking about it*. People never realize this and they fail time and time again.

yeah the thing is people get so caught up in their emotions and have this superhero mindset, they think what they're doing is good and in reality things like this cause more damage. after all, what is shutting this website down going to do? it's not going to stop people from killing themselves because the people that are on this site come here because they're already having suicidal thoughts. it's called "sanctioned suicide" afterall, it's just going to leave people without a space to express themselves where they don't feel comfortable doing elsewhere.

 

[Kevin_Logan]

I never heard about this tentacruel guy before he made this video about this site. I unironically started to laugh when he "received a method of kill himself" by some user of this site. And this method is some piece of paper that he dodnt even show us the content

 

[SpiderLink]

it's probably been beaten into the ground at this point, but i can't help in venting about this. so many people found this site and consequently gained even more traction after he made the video addressing it.

i genuinely dont understand his thought process with this, yea it "raises awareness", but it also gives suicidal people an easily accessible website that they found through his platform. there's no way he didn't anticipate this. he censors the name, but just by a little looking you can so easily find it… so what was his intention? to give this website exposure while being so adamant about "taking it down" or against "assistance in suicide"? in the end, it can be argued the mentally conflicted people that found this website through him and ACTUALLY found it as motivation to ctb is his blood in his own hands in a round-about way.

how is he any better than those who post here? in the end, he successfully led many people seeking in their own matters to here and could easily have been the reason they were able hurt themselves in the ways they intended to after discovering the site.

if anything, a measly "warning" to not visit this site isn't gonna deter someone who has strong enough intent. the algorithm surely recommends videos about mental health to these people, too: including his.

in reality, maybe i'm reading too much into this. any clarification from people who have their opinions would be appreciated, too. id like to hear differing opinions or in people that agree. other pov's would definitely be appreciated:)

Yeah I learned about this site thx to him lmao

 

[MildlyBetter]

I guarantee he does not really care about "saving people" or whatever, what he does care about is money.

 

[PoisonousPotato]

thank you a loooot tantacrul, sincerely. i tried to ctb for years now. you gave me access not only to a method, but also to a community who genuinely cares about other peoples problems. wanting to die is such a lonely experience.

 

[WorthlessCoward]

Youtubers are scum that shouldn't exist

Tentacruel is one of my fav pokemons though, Toedscruel can go screw itself though

 

[Kevin_Logan]

 

[aliasblue.]

it's probably been beaten into the ground at this point, but i can't help in venting about this. so many people found this site and consequently gained even more traction after he made the video addressing it.

i genuinely dont understand his thought process with this, yea it "raises awareness", but it also gives suicidal people an easily accessible website that they found through his platform. there's no way he didn't anticipate this. he censors the name, but just by a little looking you can so easily find it… so what was his intention? to give this website exposure while being so adamant about "taking it down" or against "assistance in suicide"? in the end, it can be argued the mentally conflicted people that found this website through him and ACTUALLY found it as motivation to ctb is his blood in his own hands in a round-about way.

how is he any better than those who post here? in the end, he successfully led many people seeking in their own matters to here and could easily have been the reason they were able hurt themselves in the ways they intended to after discovering the site.

if anything, a measly "warning" to not visit this site isn't gonna deter someone who has strong enough intent. the algorithm surely recommends videos about mental health to these people, too: including his.

in reality, maybe i'm reading too much into this. any clarification from people who have their opinions would be appreciated, too. id like to hear differing opinions or in people that agree. other pov's would definitely be appreciated:)

As someone who has gained access to this website through the tantacrul, I am very glad that I stumbled upon that video since this forum/community has helped me out a lot but I hate the objective behind his video/the comments under his video. Pro lifers piss me off so much. I mean, I understand if people are not very fond of the pro suicide agenda because we as humans, have different opinions but to go out of your way to criticize and shame people who support the pro suicide agenda is so damn petty. This community does not prompt people to commit suicide, all we do is give assistance to those who wish for it. I hate how he portrayed this community as a cult forcing people to kill themselves.