Csmith8827

Csmith8827

Don't you listen to your heart? (Listen to it...)
Oct 26, 2019
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People struggle with suicide or committing suicide so much is because it's not so much a commitment, it's an emotional response to a situation or predicament. When the user "Old God" took his life using SN it was in response to a break up or something with his girlfriend. When I tried to years ago with obtaining N it was the same thing. The reason people are struggling and not able to is because there not being triggered emotionally. Ending one's life isn't a logical decision by any means. More than likely it's an emotional response to a hurt/upset/or disappointment. I just hope I haven't missed my window of opportunity but I think I have. Take care all.
 
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BeeLoyal

BeeLoyal

Is Existence Just A Test?
Apr 27, 2020
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People struggle with suicide or committing suicide so much is because it's not so much a commitment, it's an emotional response to a situation or predicament. When the user "Old God" took his life using SN it was in response to a break up or something with his girlfriend. When I tried to years ago with obtaining N it was the same thing. The reason people are struggling and not able to is because there not being triggered emotionally. Ending one's life isn't a logical decision by any means. More than likely it's an emotional response to a hurt/upset/or disappointment. I just hope I haven't missed my window of opportunity but I think I have. Take care all. Get out while you can, if you can honestly. Just go.
Could be right yea.
Though I think you're a bit harsh when saying get out while you can? Its one's decision okay dont try to talk people into doing something they might not want
 
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Csmith8827

Csmith8827

Don't you listen to your heart? (Listen to it...)
Oct 26, 2019
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I think everyone on the site has at least some interest in leaving/exiting. I'm just saying seize the moment while you can. If you have the will to do it now then do it because it might not always be there. When I was ready, I was ready. You have go for it while you're capable or In the frame of mind when you know you're able to follow through. That's all I'm getting at.
 
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Lorntroubles

Lorntroubles

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Jan 19, 2020
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People struggle with suicide or committing suicide so much is because it's not so much a commitment, it's an emotional response to a situation or predicament. When the user "Old God" took his life using SN it was in response to a break up or something with his girlfriend. When I tried to years ago with obtaining N it was the same thing. The reason people are struggling and not able to is because there not being triggered emotionally. Ending one's life isn't a logical decision by any means. More than likely it's an emotional response to a hurt/upset/or disappointment. I just hope I haven't missed my window of opportunity but I think I have. Take care all. Get out while you can, if you can honestly. Just go.
Reading his goodbye thread, it was not in response to a gf or break up. More so about his reputation and his interactions with this girl. His interactions made him very upset because they were not accepting his apology. We should let him be at peace and not incorrectly talk about his demise.

I do agree sometimes it takes an impulsive attempt to work but I would never, ever encourage that since I like making informed decisions.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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I've thought a lot about the OP and the subsequent comments, and I've struggled.

The entire OP seems to me to be one person's assessments of other people's experiences and situations, with an exhortation to act as s/he deems best for others. I know that sounds cold and maybe even accusatory. I don't mean it to be that way. I'm trying to separate things that seem to have gotten intertwined or enmeshed.

As @Lorntroubles alluded to, that was not an accurate representation of @OldGod's reasons, and definitely not the one that pushed him to finally act after several previous goodbye and almost-goodbye posts.

There can be more than one reason why someone holds back, I think the reason stated is perhaps the OP's own.

There are logical reasons to ctb. I am one person who is struggling because it is a rational response to circumstances outside my control. People with progressive illnesses are another example.

And finally, the encouragement in the last two sentences. That's a hard one. I think it's maybe what the OP would have wanted to hear when s/he faltered. It certainly resonates for me to move forward now so that I don't regret it later, giving me a "push" in the direction I'm heading. However, because I want to do things logically and autonomously, not impulsively or under undue influence, I have to consciously step back from that encouragement rather than embrace it, because it is a seduction.

OP, I hope you'll reconsider your words. I don't think you intended harm, but I think you've unintentionally projected yourself onto others, and imo, it crossed an important boundary with the encouragement. Please know I wish you no ill, and I speak to you as I would hope someone would speak to me if I were in the same position. That may not have been the best approach with you, but I don't know you, so I did the best I could to speak my thoughts and impressions clearly. I have a tendency to be direct and honest, and appreciate when others are as well, but I recognize it's not always an approach others appreciate.
 
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I've thought a lot about the OP and the subsequent comments, and I've struggled.

The entire OP seems to me to be one person's assessments of other people's experiences and situations, with an exhortation to act as s/he deems best for others. I know that sounds cold and maybe even accusatory. I don't mean it to be that way. I'm trying to separate things that seem to have gotten intertwined or enmeshed.

As @Lorntroubles alluded to, that was not an accurate representation of @OldGod's reasons, and definitely not the one that pushed him to finally act after several previous goodbye and almost-goodbye posts.

There can be more than one reason why someone holds back, I think the reason stated is perhaps the OP's own.

There are logical reasons to ctb. I am one person who is struggling because it is a rational response to circumstances outside my control. People with progressive illnesses are another example.

And finally, the encouragement in the last two sentences. That's a hard one. I think it's maybe what the OP would have wanted to hear when s/he faltered. It certainly resonates for me to move forward now so that I don't regret it later, giving me a "push" in the direction I'm heading. However, because I want to do things logically and autonomously, not impulsively or under undue influence, I have to consciously step back from that encouragement rather than embrace it, because it is a seduction.

OP, I hope you'll reconsider your words. I don't think you intended harm, but I think you've unintentionally projected yourself onto others, and imo, it crossed an important boundary with the encouragement. Please know I wish you no ill, and I speak to you as I would hope someone would speak to me if I were in the same position.


I am your biggest fan, Good! Your words have the beauty and precision of a katana.

:heart:
 
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GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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I am your biggest fan, Good! Your words have the beauty and precision of a katana.

:heart:

Just as you were posting, I edited my comment to add the two final sentences there now because I recognize not everyone appreciates a good katana. :pfff:
 
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Epsilon0

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Dec 28, 2019
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Just as you were posting, I edited my comment to add the two final sentences there now because I recognize not everyone appreciates a good katana. :pfff:


How weird am I on a scale from 1 to 10 for thinking of a sword slashing a big watermelon in this very instant?
 
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K-O

K-O

FU(KOFFEE
Apr 16, 2020
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i agree with both of you.. goodpf and op..
i was at peace and acceptance the first time i wanted to join my love and tried to ctb.. it was as op said.. and then i was "saved".. but joining this forum i see how many people are "logical" about they're actions..
im always led by my heart first but after "failing" to ctb i find myself here.. i feel you op.. and read your post with a heartbroken self.. timing is everything.. we aren't the logical kind.. but my eyes are open and i understand and appreciate ones that are tbh..
i don't go into method threads as i don't tend to seek outside help irl also..
if only i had been a wee bit logical and locked my door from inside... but i am an all in kinda person.. (borderline\ cptsd?.. trying to embrace the lingo.. )
anyway.. tick tock.. x
 
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