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Is this a sign I'm doing something wrong? Is there a way to prevent this? The feeling is just too powerful and it makes me stop.
 
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I have this problem too, it means your not compressing the cartorid artery
 
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Is this a sign I'm doing something wrong? Is there a way to prevent this? The feeling is just too powerful and it makes me stop.


Youre probably not compressing the cartoid arteries but I wouldn't say you're doing it wrong. I think if that happens you're probably doing it right but I can't imagine that's easy to persevere to. Eventually you'll pass out but I think your blood vessels would blow first and you'd not be in a good way. Again I'm just speculating I'm not 100%
 
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Try moving the knot to the right hand side slightly
 
MaybeMaybeKnot

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You're compressing your jugular veins, trapping the blood in your head. The goal is to compress the arteries to keep the blood out of your head. On either side of your trachea, you should be able to find your pulse. That's what your trying to compress. You can control that with the size and position of your ligature as well as what direction you press against it.
 
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You're compressing your jugular veins, trapping the blood in your head. The goal is to compress the arteries to keep the blood out of your head. On either side of your trachea, you should be able to find your pulse. That's what your trying to compress. You can control that with the size and position of your ligature as well as what direction you press against it.

if you compress the jugular the same result inevitably happens you die right? I know it's not the most ideal because it'll hurt but compressing the cartoids not many people have success with
 
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if you compress the jugular the same result inevitably happens you die right? I know it's not the most ideal because it'll hurt but compressing the cartoids not many people have success with
Yes. Compressing the jugulars is just as effective, just not as pleasant to experience.
 
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Yes. Compressing the jugulars is just as effective, just not as pleasant to experience.

I can imagine it'll hurt like A bitch for a little bit. I've always wondered timewise how long it would take?
 
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Is this a sign I'm doing something wrong? Is there a way to prevent this? The feeling is just too powerful and it makes me stop.
Hey, I hope this helps.
 
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Blood chokes (or carotid restraints / sleeper holds) are a form of strangulation that compress one or both carotid arteries and/or the jugular veins without compressing the airway, hence causing cerebral ischemia and a temporary hypoxic condition in the brain. A well applied blood choke may lead to unconsciousness in 10-20 seconds. Injury or death is plausible if the parties remain constricted for more than 20 seconds. Compared to strangulation with the hands, properly applied blood chokes require little physical strength.

Apparently, overlapping jugular veins also leads to loss of consciousness, only more pain and more time. I hope so, because I also have a problem finding carotid arteries. The jugular veins overlap very easily.

The jugular veins are an outflow of blood. There will be no outflow - there will be no inflow. As you reach the desired pressure in the head. I'm fine, I know it's very scary to feel it. But this is the price for too deep carotid arteries.
 
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Apparently, overlapping jugular veins also leads to loss of consciousness, only more pain and more time. I hope so, because I also have a problem finding carotid arteries. The jugular veins overlap very easily.

you say overlap I know this may sound like A dumb question but how do they overlap? I have a huge problem finding the cartoids but surely if the noose is tight enough it'll compress the jugular and the cartoid right?
 
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you say overlap I know this may sound like A dumb question but how do they overlap? I have a huge problem finding the cartoids but surely if the noose is tight enough it'll compress the jugular and the cartoid right?

If you feel pressure rises in your head, then you have blocked only the jugular veins. Carotid arteries are not affected. Blood comes into the head, but does not come out of it.
I also can't block the carotid arteries.
As far as I know, an average of 2 kg of pressure is required to close the jugular vein, 5 kg of pressure is required to block the carotid artery, and about 15 kg of pressure is required to block the breathing. Neck pressure.

People write that the faster you hang, the greater the chance of blocking the carotid artery. I can not.

Theoretically, if only the jugular veins are blocked, the head will be filled with venous blood without oxygen, the pressure will increase in it, and when a certain level of pressure is reached, the blood enriched with oxygen will stop flowing into the head.
I am not an expert, just thoughts. Need expert opinion of a person with a medical education.

Site lostallhope confirms my assumption about jugular vein - http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/hanging/short-drop/simple-suspension
Likewise, death can also be achieved by constricting the jugular vein under the left side of the jaw, which prevents blood from getting back to the heart.
The only problem is how painful it is and how long it will take. Maybe you should stock up with good painkillers.
 
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If you feel pressure rises in your head, then you have blocked only the jugular veins. Carotid arteries are not affected. Blood comes into the head, but does not come out of it.
I also can't block the carotid arteries.
As far as I know, an average of 2 kg of pressure is required to close the jugular vein, 5 kg of pressure is required to block the carotid artery, and about 15 kg of pressure is required to block the breathing. Neck pressure.

People write that the faster you hang, the greater the chance of blocking the carotid artery. I can not.

Theoretically, if only the jugular veins are blocked, the head will be filled with venous blood without oxygen, the pressure will increase in it, and when a certain level of pressure is reached, the blood enriched with oxygen will stop flowing into the head.
I am not an expert, just thoughts. Need expert opinion of a person with a medical education.

Site lostallhope confirms my assumption about jugular vein - http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/hanging/short-drop/simple-suspension

The only problem is how painful it is and how long it will take. Maybe you should stock up with good painkillers.

surely you can't only compress the cartoids though? Like you won't be able to do the cartoids first that's impossible as jugular is first.
So the aim must be to compress both? Obviously jugular and then cartoids? Am I missing something here?
 
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surely you can't only compress the cartoids though? Like you won't be able to do the cartoids first that's impossible as jugular is first.
So the aim must be to compress both? Obviously jugular and then cartoids? Am I missing something here?

Most people can easily block the jugular vein, but carotid artery does not work. I can't even feel it with my fingers.
Naturally, if the carotid artery is blocked, the jugular vein is all the more blocked. If the carotid artery is closed, then there should not be a feeling of an exploding head. Only weakness, slight euphoria and loss of consciousness after a few seconds. According to people on this site.
My weakness and mild euphoria occurs when I relieve pressure from my neck after sensing an exploding head. I have never lost consciousness.



Watch this video at 14:28. They block the carotid arteries with their hands and the enemy loses consciousness for several seconds. After raising their legs up to quickly return blood to the head.
 
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