gothfairy

gothfairy

sad girl
Nov 12, 2019
64
i'm so suicidal and have been planning to ctb soon for months but i'm terrified of coming back as another human. i know i won't remember that i have lived before but it just scares me and it's keeping me from doing it. anyone else feel like this
 
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Fragile

Fragile

Broken
Jul 7, 2019
1,496
in a way i do, but not as in reincarnating as other person, i actually want that to happen. the the thought of reincarnating and re-living my life as myself is what scares the shit out of me, maybe the universe resets itself every time it reaches certain point and everything starts over the same way it was over and over.

i'm usually very calm when it comes to my death, but this thought has been bothering me lately.

but in any case, i wont remember any of this so why shout it matter? it's inevitable that i die anyway. might as well accept it rather than live in denial, and we have no way of knowing what will actually happen so there is hope that death is actually eternal peace and never having to hurt so much.

besides, if i come back as other human then there is the possibility that i get to live a better life and manage to do something with it.

i'm curious, why exactly do you fear reincarnation? is it because bad karma or something similar?
 
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Meant2Die

Meant2Die

Specialist
Nov 8, 2019
307
But.. wait.. what? I kinda feel ya in that I'm telling my higher self or my soul that I don't want to be here ever again.
On the other hand take a look into a subject called pre birth planning. The simple explanation of this is that we as souls, (and I guess you believe in that since you're talking about reincarnation) plan our lives before we incarnate. We choose our looks, gender, characteristics, short comings, family members, friends, talents, economic situations... literally everything. We make contracts with other souls who will be our family or friends and what we plan to learn from each other. We even plan some certain experiences or the high likelyhoods that they occur.
Looking at it this way, sorry to tell you, your life is of your own making before you were even born. There's an entire chapter on suicides in the book Your Souls Gift (for Your Souks Plan, I cant recall now) by Robert schwarts , explaining that very ambitious souls sometimes plan too much and end up setting up a life path that has a very high chance of suicide. They know this but still take it on.
Anywho, the bright side of this is, after you die you can look at this life and say, ok that was too hard , maybe go a little easier next time, and therefore your next life will now be as miserable bc you'll plan it a little better.
I know it's a pretty radical notion but many spiritual teachings mention the idea of pre Birth planning. Reincarnation isn't something that happens to you. It's something your soul chooses to do in order to grow. Aapparently you can stay at whatever level you want or take as much "time" as you need between lives to recover. I say "time" bc supposedly there is no time on the other side.
Just some food for thought :sunglasses:
 
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TheLastGoodbye

Student
Oct 23, 2019
109
I, personally, would like to have another shot at life. I think the odds are that I would end up having an average life, but I think an average life would be so much better than what I've had so far. I also think coming back as a human would be better than coming back as most other animals. The way i see it is that if there really is reincarnation, it will happen whether I go today or in 50 years, and odds are my life would be much better than it is now. I can understand being worried about the unknown though. Anyway, I hope you have done your best to seek help. If not, I hope you would do so before making such a big decision.
 
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not-2-b-the-answer

Archangel
Mar 23, 2018
9,286
i'm so suicidal and have been planning to ctb soon for months but i'm terrified of coming back as another human. i know i won't remember that i have lived before but it just scares me and it's keeping me from doing it. anyone else feel like this

I have the same fear as well. Coming back having my mind wiped only to have to do it all over again. :'(
 
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jgm63

Visionary
Oct 28, 2019
2,467
My opinion :
There could be many factors that determine whether you might re-incarnate.
Those factors might not depend on whether you CTB or not.
So avoiding CTB may not prevent re-incarnation after you eventually die.
On the other hand, if you don't CTB, but stay here on the earth, and live a very spiritual life (which can be done in many different ways), then you might not re-incarnate after you eventually die.
Or you might CTB, but your soul might be sufficiently evolved that you don't need to re-incarnate.
There's no real way of knowing....

Some thoughts on this that I've posted previously :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/have-you-ever-thought-of-afterlife.26403/#post-479607

Only you can try to weigh up the different factors, and you might have to go with your "best guess".
 
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Ineedtobedead

Member
Nov 11, 2019
45
I kinda wish I could come back as a completely different person actually, to get a second chance.. but deep down I know it's gonna be nothing
 
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Mizzmini45

Arcanist
Dec 1, 2019
447
Me to! I thought this same thing today! This is a beyond terrifying thought. Lets not even speak about this. I really hope this is it.
 
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KiraLittleOwl

Lost in transition
Jan 25, 2019
1,083
I don't want to turn to this planet. No!
I really think reincarnation doesn't exist.
Maybe in philosophical kind of way but not real.
 
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TearyEyedQueen

TearyEyedQueen

In the wrong timeline
Nov 14, 2019
366
I'd wanna get a second chance, to relive my life as this person but now I'd make better choices.
Although at only 19 I already feel like I've lived a lifetime due to abuse. I've even once been told that I'm an old soul so this is it for me.
 
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YukiFox

Pastel demon
Dec 8, 2018
320
I'd wanna get a second chance, to relive my life as this person but now I'd make better choices.
I want a second chance too. I think all of the humanity can reincarnate if they wish previously in their lives.
As a pagan I take seriously the afterlife . My spirit guide told me that there are multiple places to any kind of beliefs. For example: if you preferred a christian faith they will be an heaven or hell for you. If you were an atheist, your afterlife will be a total blackout without any feelings or urges. At my case, my spirit guide told me that I will be in a dimension when I can enjoy things but I will be aware that I'm dead and meet another beings (of all kind of universes) who waits for their reincarnation. She explained to me that reincarnate is a kind of lottery: when happens you are not able to figure when happened.
So I understand your worries. But if the mercy of the Gods are with you, They will give a eternal rest . So start to believe that you will be fine at the afterlife and you only have a imperceptible blackout . Blessings.
 
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Apathy79

Apathy79

Arcanist
Oct 13, 2019
489
I did a full day "past-life regression" a few years ago and found the experience quite profound. I guess it's possible it was a mind trick, but it certainly felt like re-experiencing events from past lives. As a bit of a skeptic, it was extremely difficult to explain another way.

One thing that was interesting about it was the pattern of mistakes made in one life seemed to need to be fixed in the next. In one life I killed a slave, in another I was a slave killed by my owner. That sort of thing.

In many religions, the afterlife and karma are talked about together - essentially that karma plays itself out over multiple lifetimes, which explains why some people seem to draw a horrendous hand in this life, while others couldn't mess it up if they tried.

Since then, I've started to believe in the truth of all that, which I'm sure is a different belief than almost everyone here, and may not be correct. But since you brought it up as a concern, if it were me, I'd examine my conscience from this life. If reincarnation is real, and you were dealt a bad hand, handled it as best you could but ultimately chose suicide to end the pain you and/or others are enduring by your continued existence, then I suspect your next life will be preferable to this one. If your conscience is less clear and you picked up significant bad karma from this life that has not been accounted for, then I think your fear is valid, and I'd be working to try to rectify that first, rather than have to do it in the next.

And if it turns out reincarnation is a load of bs, that path of action will probably bring you the most peace when you pass anyway.
 
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Sunset Limited

Sunset Limited

I believe in Sunset Limited
Jul 29, 2019
1,286
Even the idea of coming back to hell makes me sick. I want everything to end. I don't want to see this fucking planet again. I think even the worst person in this world is a victim, not a criminal. If there's a god, he's guilty. If there is, I hope the fucking bastard will die and disappear. This diseased existence ends. All I want is eternal sleep.


I love this movie!


White
- I pray for death, real death. And if I thought that in death I would meet the people I knew in life, I don't know what I would do. That would be the ultimate horror, the ultimate nightmare. If I thought I was gonna meet my mother again and start all of that all over, only this time without the prospect of death to look forward to, that would be the final nightmare, Kafka on wheels.

Black - Damn, professor. You don't want to see your own mama?

White - No, I don't. I want the dead to be dead forever. And I want to be one of them. Except of course you can't be one of them. You can't be one of the dead because that which has no existence can have no community. No community. My heart warms just thinking about it... blackness, aloneness, silence, peace, and all of it only a heartbeat away. I don't regard my state of mind as some pessimistic view of the world. I regard it as the world itself. Evolution cannot avoid bringing intelligent life ultimately to an awareness of one thing, and one thing above all else. And that one thing is futility.

Black - If I'm understanding you right, you're sayingeverybody that just ain'teat up with the dumbass ought to be suicidal.

White - Yes.

Black - You ain't shitting me?

White - No, I am not shitting you. If people could see the world for what it truly is, see their lives for what they truly are, without dreams or illusions, I don't believe they could offer the first reason why they should not elect to die as soon as possible. I don't believe in God. Can you understand that? Look around you, man. Can't you see? The clamor and din of those in torment has to be the sound most pleasing to his ear. And I loathe these discussions... The argument of the village atheist whose single passion is to revile endlessly that which he denies the existence of in the first place. Your fellowship is a fellowship of pain and nothing more. And if that pain were collective instead of merely reiterative, the sheer weight of it would drag the world from the walls of the universe and send it crashing and burning down through whatever night it might yet be capable of engendering until it was not even ash. And brotherhood, justice, eternal life? Good God, man. Show me a religion that prepares one for nothingness, for death. That's a church I might enter. Yours prepares one only for more life, for dreams and illusions and lies. Banish the fear of death from men's hearts... They wouldn't live a day. Who would want this nightmare but for fear of the next? The shadow of the axe hangs over every joy. Every road ends in death, every friendship, every love. Torment, loss, betrayal, pain, suffering, age, indignity, hideous lingering illness... and all of it with a single conclusion for you and every one and every thing you have ever chosen to care for. That is the true brotherhood, the true fellowship. And everybody is a member for life. You tell me that my brother is my salvation? My salvation? Well, then damn him. Damn him in every shape and guise and form. Do I see myself in him? Yes, I do. And what I see sickens me. Do you understand me? Can you understand me? I'm sorry.
 
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Elias

Experienced
Mar 19, 2019
216
Sometimes I wish for a global catastrophe that would make it sure no life in this universe can be possible anymore. But then there's the theory of multiple universes and I get overwhelmed. Yeah I really hope this is #Yolo.
 
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Sunset Limited

I believe in Sunset Limited
Jul 29, 2019
1,286
Sometimes I wish for a global catastrophe that would make it sure no life in this universe can be possible anymore. But then there's the theory of multiple universes and I get overwhelmed. Yeah I really hope this is #Yolo.

Everything that exists in this universe is destroyed by entropy. A universe in which entropy exists creates sick beings. I just want to end forever.
 
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Elias

Experienced
Mar 19, 2019
216
@ThatsEnoughForMe Zero entropy is the true perfection. A state of nothing, forever as time itself wouldn't be relevant anymore. The great equalizer is the heat death of this universe, everything will be equal before it.
 
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JSauter

Experienced
Oct 14, 2019
207
There is no reincarnation. Do not flood your mind with that kind of anxiety. Where were you during Marcus Aurelius' tenure in the Roman Empire? When Genghis Khan was roving around Manchuria? The Qing Dynasty? The black plague? Do you remember any of that? That space and time you occupied during those events is where you'll go.
 
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TotallyIsolated

Mage
Nov 25, 2019
590
Reincarnation shouldn't be taken so literally. It's more of a philosophical thing about cycles of life and death and how history repeats itself in patterns.
 
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Santiago

Mage
Mar 25, 2018
588
I don't believe in life after death whatsoever, but this thread still blows my mind.

Many of you are saying 'I wish I can get another chance so I can hopefully live a better life'. Who is I?
If you acknowledge the fact that you won't remember your previous life then what you think now doesn't matter. It's very contradictory.
 
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jgm63

Visionary
Oct 28, 2019
2,467
I don't believe in life after death whatsoever, but this thread still blows my mind.

Many of you are saying 'I wish I can get another chance so I can hopefully live a better life'. Who is I?
If you acknowledge the fact that you won't remember your previous life then what you think now doesn't matter. It's very contradictory.
The "I" is what I am in truth. Simply a silent intelligence. That intelligence has taken on a physical form with a name and memory. Those things can end, but I still am. Then I might take on another physical form.... Or I might not if I have no need of it or hunger for it....
 
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JSauter

Experienced
Oct 14, 2019
207
I don't believe in life after death whatsoever, but this thread still blows my mind.

Many of you are saying 'I wish I can get another chance so I can hopefully live a better life'. Who is I?
If you acknowledge the fact that you won't remember your previous life then what you think now doesn't matter. It's very contradictory.

I assume they mean, the 'everlasting' "I" that maintains and recycles beyond the corporeal body.

PS: Nice artwork in your profile. I used to be really into renaissance oil paintings -who's the artist?
 
OneBigBlur

OneBigBlur

Experienced
Nov 30, 2019
231
I'm not sure about this but I'll ask, doesn't reincarnation have a lot to do with karma?

I personally can't believe in karma because I'm a determinist so that'd throw reincarnation into the garbage. There isn't a cell in my body that would want to come back to this horrible place.
 
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jgm63

Visionary
Oct 28, 2019
2,467
I'm not sure about this but I'll ask, doesn't reincarnation have a lot to do with karma?

I personally can't believe in karma because I'm a determinist so that'd throw reincarnation into the garbage. There isn't a cell in my body that would want to come back to this horrible place.
We can all believe what we wish. One way or another the truth will reveal itself to all of us sooner or later.
Then there won't be any need of belief, since you will know.
Until then it's passing entertainment. Nothing wrong with it, but not much reality to it.
 
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Santiago

Mage
Mar 25, 2018
588
The "I" is what I am in truth. Simply a silent intelligence. That intelligence has taken on a physical form with a name and memory. Those things can end, but I still am. Then I might take on another physical form.... Or I might not if I have no need of it or hunger for it....

I guess that makes sense if you believe in reincarnation. Fair enough.

To me you are an 'I' because you have a functioning brain so when your body dies you die as well.
I assume they mean, the 'everlasting' "I" that maintains and recycles beyond the corporeal body.

PS: Nice artwork in your profile. I used to be really into renaissance oil paintings -who's the artist?

Romer Kitching

 
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Moonicide

Moonicide

ᴘʜᴀꜱᴇꜱ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏᴏɴ
Nov 19, 2019
802
I mean, if we do come back more than likely we won't have any recollection of our previous self. So we will never know.
Whatever happens, happens. All I know is I'm tired of this life.
 
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