Swimming on Benzodiazepines

[BumperCrop]

I am a swimmer with experience and access to benzodiazepines, opioids, and alcohol (naturally). If I swam for a long time through a deep lake on a heavy dose of depressants, do you believe I would find a peaceful death? I am open to feedback.

 

[Deleted member 14386]

While I'd like to say yes (this was my preferred method too), after previously taking 50mg alprazolam (xanax) + 30x 60mg phenobarbitol and ending up asleep but fine 2 days later in a hospital bed, I have to say no. Not on it's own anyway, OD's are very hard to calculate and are unpredictable. It's probably easier but if the job doesn't get done, whats the point?
edit: apologies I misunderstood the post. It may work, another of my initial plans was to have a heavy jacket of some sorts that would sink me unless I kept treading water, I moved to a place with no deep rivers/lakes nearby so I chose a different method. The only problem I see is being rescued by a random person and/or having brain/nerve damage after. I fear that worse than death

 

[Quarky00]

No . A friend tried .

Alcohol + SI + Drowning = bad combo

You will die suffering , trying to swim / grasp for air , but too sleepy (benzo) to do so = torture ;)

 

[UpandDownPrincess]

There's something about drowning, when the water hits the lungs, that seems to override almost any amount of alcohol/benzos/opiates. It tends to kick in the biggest case of SI ever. If you're far enough from shore, you may well drown, but it won't be peaceful. Even if your brain wanted death, your body will struggle and struggle and struggle.

For some reason, this method only seems to work when it's unintentional. Go figure.

 

[Nowilltolive90]

That sounds like a recipe for so much unnecessary torture please don't put yourself through that, you will most definitely not die peacefully

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Death, maybe. Peaceful, no.

 

[No capacity]

My only comment on this is that last year, or maybe the year before a Med student went walkabouts deliberately off the Devon coast, leaving a suicide note in her car. As a med student, surely she would have insight into the easiest / most successful / least painful and most successful way to g if that is what she chose?

 

[Mizzmini45]

This was going to be my method for a while but it turned out not to be a good idea. Find other one

 

[No capacity]

This was going to be my method for a while but it turned out not to be a good idea. Find other one

What made you decide it wasn't a good one?

 

[Sensei]

My only comment on this is that last year, or maybe the year before a Med student went walkabouts deliberately off the Devon coast, leaving a suicide note in her car. As a med student, surely she would have insight into the easiest / most successful / least painful and most successful way to g if that is what she chose?

There are plenty of testimonies from people who have almost drowned and had to inhale water. According to all accounts I've read, it's very painful and it feels like your lungs are on fire.

 

[WhiteDespair]

Only way this could possibly work is if you're completely out before hitting the water. The logistics are not worth it.

 

[Ghost2211]

If you have benzos why not just OD on a nice amount of them? That would be one of my first choices if I had access to them.

 

[Deleted member 14386]

If you have benzos why not just OD on a nice amount of them? That would be one of my first choices if I had access to them.

Doesn't work, I tried 50mg xanax and a tonne of 60mg phenobarbital tablets, I blacked out but my body kept moving, alerted people and someone called ES. I dunno what it is about benzos, but your body will still move even if your mind isn't present.

 

[Ghost2211]

Doesn't work, I tried 50mg xanax and a tonne of 60mg phenobarbital tablets, I blacked out but my body kept moving, alerted people and someone called ES. I dunno what it is about benzos, but your body will still move even if your mind isn't present.

That is super interesting, and unfortunate

 

[Egddios]

Many moons ago, when I was 15, I experienced alcohol poisoning. There's so much more to the story but I'll get to the meat of it: at one point during the evening, I walked into the bay and friends dragged me out (I don't remember, this is what I was told after I woke up in the hospital).

I am a swimmer with experience and access to benzodiazepines, opioids, and alcohol (naturally). If I swam for a long time through a deep lake on a heavy dose of depressants, do you believe I would find a peaceful death? I am open to feedback.

I think you'd be more likely to die in a warm bath or jacuzzi while under the HEAVY influence of prescription sedatives and/or opioids. Add in alcohol and yeah, it just raises the chances of dying. Cold water drowning seems a bit awful. Then again, if that's the only option.

I'm now thinking of Virginia Woolf:

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On 28 March 1941, Woolf drowned herself by filling her overcoat pockets with stones and walking into the River Ouse near her home.[295] Her body was not found until 18 April.[296] Her husband buried her cremated remains beneath an elm tree in the garden of Monk's House, their home in Rodmell, Sussex.[297]​

In her suicide note, addressed to her husband, she wrote:

Dearest,
I feel certain that I am going mad again. I feel we can't go through another of those terrible times. And I shan't recover this time. I begin to hear voices, and I can't concentrate. So I am doing what seems the best thing to do. You have given me the greatest possible happiness. You have been in every way all that anyone could be. I don't think two people could have been happier till this terrible disease came. I can't fight it any longer. I know that I am spoiling your life, that without me you could work. And you will I know. You see I can't even write this properly. I can't read. What I want to say is I owe all the happiness of my life to you. You have been entirely patient with me and incredibly good. I want to say that—everybody knows it. If anybody could have saved me it would have been you. Everything has gone from me but the certainty of your goodness. I can't go on spoiling your life any longer. I don't think two people could have been happier than we have been. V.[298][299]

I don't think Virginia had any meds or alcohol in her system, which is kind of mind blowing. Drowing by force, ie weights pulling you down, in some way, seems almost more humane (a faster death).

 

[voyager]

I have mixed feelings on the issue. Drowning is a method I was considering, and it's not completely off the table, but shelved.The reason is simple, I've done it before. It was only when I came across the LAH site that I discovered that it was supposedly extremely painful. Problem is, that's not how I remember it. Thing is, I can't remember if it was painful or not, if I'm traumatised or was simply too young when it happened. I was almost three years old and remember the moment before vividly, trying to fill one of my toys with water, I slipped and fell in. But the memory stops there. Couldn't swim at the time and must have screamed in panic filling my lungs with water, which is why I fell unconscious immediately. By the time my friend had fetched my mum, which can't have been more than a minute, I was out, submerged and drifting in the middle of the pool. Sounds quick, right, problem is once you learn how to swim you will probably fight it, hold your breath, and to me that is the agony, more so than actually taking the water in, because I assume by then you're done.

 

[BumperCrop]

If you have benzos why not just OD on a nice amount of them? That would be one of my first choices if I had access to them.

Benzos are shockingly safe on their own. They're only lethal in combination with other drugs, especially barbiturates or opioids. Even then it seems to require massive amounts to overdose successfully.

My original post was not thought out at all; I was drunk and suicidal when I wrote it. I imagined gently swimming on a warm lake, looking up at the stars, drifting to sleep and disappearing underwater. It's a beautiful image. In reality it would be an ugly death.

 

[No capacity]

Benzos are shockingly safe on their own. They're only lethal in combination with other drugs, especially barbiturates or opioids. Even then it seems to require massive amounts to overdose successfully.

My original post was not thought out at all; I was drunk and suicidal when I wrote it. I imagined gently swimming on a warm lake, looking up at the stars, drifting to sleep and disappearing underwater. It's a beautiful image. In reality it would be an ugly death.

Sounds beautiful to me. I would do it with you.

If you have benzos why not just OD on a nice amount of them? That would be one of my first choices if I had access to them.

But how much s needed?

 

[Ghost2211]

Benzos are shockingly safe on their own. They're only lethal in combination with other drugs, especially barbiturates or opioids. Even then it seems to require massive amounts to overdose successfully.

My original post was not thought out at all; I was drunk and suicidal when I wrote it. I imagined gently swimming on a warm lake, looking up at the stars, drifting to sleep and disappearing underwater. It's a beautiful image. In reality it would be an ugly death.

That does seem like a lovely mental image. Unfortunate benzos alone wouldn't work.

 

[No capacity]

or where to get opiods (in yjr UK)
Mind I can and would travel

 

[Mizzmini45]

Benzos don't work alone

 

[voyager]

My original post was not thought out at all; I was drunk and suicidal when I wrote it. I imagined gently swimming on a warm lake, looking up at the stars, drifting to sleep and disappearing underwater. It's a beautiful image. In reality it would be an ugly death.

Something like this perhaps?



Password: dive

 

[LastRide]

There's something about drowning, when the water hits the lungs, that seems to override almost any amount of alcohol/benzos/opiates. It tends to kick in the biggest case of SI ever. If you're far enough from shore, you may well drown, but it won't be peaceful. Even if your brain wanted death, your body will struggle and struggle and struggle.

For some reason, this method only seems to work when it's unintentional. Go figure.

Are you sure about this? I heard that once water gets into your lungs you lose the urge to breathe....so if the urge to breathe is gone why could it not be peaceful? Mmhhh...will have to get water into my lungs to work that ine out, or are there any people here with medical knowledge who could give any feedback on the "water in lungs effect" please?

 

[faust]

No, you are not likely to find a peaceful death in this case.
I might expect that if you manage to get a blackout (when you remember nothing and do not understand anything), only in this case death can be peaceful.
You have to try first, e.g. with Flunitrazepam. If you don't get a state like "I don't remember anything", then there is no point in CTB using this method
WARNING! ALCO + FLUNITRAZEPAM IS A DANGEROUS MIX, ALTHOUGH FLUNITRAZEPAM AND SOME OTHER SUBSTANCES CAN BE USED TO CAUSE BLACKOUT MIXING WITH ALCO, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE OKAY. GHB, GBL AND KETAMINE MAYBE DANGEROUS TOO MIXING WITH ALCO.