Method Sulphuric + formic acid methods

[I’mDone]

Why is this not a more popular method? I've searched and found a few threads asking the same question but haven't found an answer. Both substances are easily and legally available in the UK. The method really doesn't need to be complicated. It's looking pretty attractive TBH.

 

[GoBack]

Is that one of those toxic methods that could take out other people with you, maybe that's why

You mean detergent suicide, I think it can be deadly to whoever finds you, paramedics etc

 

[Battered_Seoul]

Why is this not a more popular method? I've searched and found a few threads asking the same question but haven't found an answer. Both substances are easily and legally available in the UK. The method really doesn't need to be complicated. It's looking pretty attractive TBH.

Is Sulphuric acid not regulated?

 

[Disintegration]

I came close to trying it. I purchased the chemicals and was prepared to go through with it, but chickened out. It was overwhelming to handle the chemicals in my experience. They are really nasty and quite volatile to deal with. If you have any reservations about handling such things, little chemistry experience, so on.. you may want to pass.

 

[Battered_Seoul]

I came close to trying it. I purchased the chemicals and was prepared to go through with it, but chickened out. It was overwhelming to handle the chemicals in my experience. They are really nasty and quite volatile to deal with. If you have any reservations about handling such things, little chemistry experience, so on.. you may want to pass.

There were also references in some forensic reports to corrosive acidic vapour that could damage the lungs.

I guess it could be possible to titrate one of the acids into the other in a more controlled way?

 

[Disintegration]

There were also references in some forensic reports to corrosive acidic vapour that could damage the lungs.

I guess it could be possible to titrate one of the acids into the other in a more controlled way?

Exactly

 

[I’mDone]

Is Sulphuric acid not regulated?

Very easy to buy in the UK. 91% pure. The requirement is 90%.

Is that one of those toxic methods that could take out other people with you, maybe that's why

You mean detergent suicide, I think it can be deadly to whoever finds you, paramedics etc

Won't charcoal do the same?

I came close to trying it. I purchased the chemicals and was prepared to go through with it, but chickened out. It was overwhelming to handle the chemicals in my experience. They are really nasty and quite volatile to deal with. If you have any reservations about handling such things, little chemistry experience, so on.. you may want to pass.

I use sulphuric regularly in my work. You need to be sensible, that's all.

 

[Living sucks]

Why is this not a more popular method? I've searched and found a few threads asking the same question but haven't found an answer. Both substances are easily and legally available in the UK. The method really doesn't need to be complicated. It's looking pretty attractive TBH.

Have you read whet the pph says about it? It's very low rated .. not peaceful in any sense and highly dangerous. Lots can go wrong. The goal is ctb not make life worse right?

 

[Battered_Seoul]

Have you read whet the pph says about it? It's very low rated .. not peaceful in any sense and highly dangerous. Lots can go wrong. The goal is ctb not make life worse right?

Are you possibly confusing this with detergent suicide? Forgive me if you are not; I haven't checked the PPeH for a while.

The acid mixture generates carbon monoxide, not Hydrogen sulfide.

Although, yes, this would be dangerous. I wouldn't use this method in any kind of building. However, it could fit the bill for a tent somewhere remote.

Very easy to buy in the UK. 91% pure. The requirement is 90%.


Won't charcoal do the same?


I use sulphuric regularly in my work. You need to be sensible, that's all.

Very easy to buy in the UK. 91% pure. The requirement is 90%.


Won't charcoal do the same?


I use sulphuric regularly in my work. You need to be sensible, that's all.

Interesting. Am I correct in thinking some draincleaners possess the required Sulphuric acid concentration?

 

[I’mDone]

Are you possibly confusing this with detergent suicide? Forgive me if you are not; I haven't checked the PPeH for a while.

The acid mixture generates carbon monoxide, not Hydrogen sulfide.

Although, yes, this would be dangerous. I wouldn't use this method in any kind of building. However, it could fit the bill for a tent somewhere remote.


Interesting. Am I correct in thinking some draincleaners possess the required Sulphuric acid concentration?

Yes. It has already been named in another post so I'm guessing no harm in mentioning the name. It's called one-shot. Most plumbers merchants sell it.

Is that one of those toxic methods that could take out other people with you, maybe that's why

You mean detergent suicide, I think it can be deadly to whoever finds you, paramedics etc

No, not detergents. This method produces CO.

 

[My_name_is_Luka]

This might be interesting..

https://www.thename.org/assets/2018Handouts/2.6%20-%20Kreutz%2C%20Kasey.pdf

An Unusual Case of Carbon Monoxide Poisoning from Formic and Sulfuric Acid Mixture

Author(s): Ershad, Muhammed; Melislotis, Athanasios; Kelly, Matthew; Hamilton, Richard | Abstract: Formic acid, when combined with sulfuric acid, gets dehydrated to form carbon monoxide (CO). A 27-year-old female was found unconscious inside a car, next to a container with a mixture of sulfuric...

escholarship.org

 

[I’mDone]

This might be interesting..

https://www.thename.org/assets/2018Handouts/2.6%20-%20Kreutz%2C%20Kasey.pdf

An Unusual Case of Carbon Monoxide Poisoning from Formic and Sulfuric Acid Mixture

Author(s): Ershad, Muhammed; Melislotis, Athanasios; Kelly, Matthew; Hamilton, Richard | Abstract: Formic acid, when combined with sulfuric acid, gets dehydrated to form carbon monoxide (CO). A 27-year-old female was found unconscious inside a car, next to a container with a mixture of sulfuric...

escholarship.org

Thank you. I had already come across that article. My main focus is to find out why slow mixing of the acids is deemed so important. Do you have any information on that?

 

[My_name_is_Luka]

Unluckily not. I'm also not a chemist, so I'm trying to find those same informations. I have read on another page that the reaction can develop a lot of heat once it starts. I suppose that it might be too powerful or dangerous..
I didn't like much the second article that I have posted, where the girl didn't manage to obtain a high enough concentration of CO and had permanent brain damages. It doesn't motivate me much on this experiment.. Also the first article, when the recording of the person says "it burns"

 

[Zzzzz]

Can one shot still be purchased? Haven't found it anywhere in google.